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I'd say, just looking at it on paper right now, that we've got a slight edge over them in the secondary. But we'll see.
Dallas secondary:Joe Realist;2099368 said:I seem to remember Trent Green throwing all over the Cowboys (and yes I know he threw 4 picks). Jason Campbell throwing all over us and even , Jon Kitna too. Matt Moore had his moments as well.
Joe Realist;2099368 said:I seem to remember Trent Green throwing all over the Cowboys (and yes I know he threw 4 picks). Jason Campbell throwing all over us and even , Jon Kitna too. Matt Moore had his moments as well.
AdamJT13;2099445 said:Our defense finished the season ranked fifth in passer rating allowed, fourth in touchdown percentage allowed, ninth in completion percentage allowed, seventh in yards allowed per pass and and fifth in long pass percentage allowed.
And that's despite the fact that Anthony Henry and/or Terence Newman were missing or playing hurt almost all season. (Jacques Reeves played more than either of them did.) In the four games when our secondary had all four starters in the starting lineup, we gave up a total of two TD passes and allowed a 69.1 passer rating (which would have ranked No. 1 over the course of the season).
And those big plays by the Eagles? We had 19 interceptions last season. That's as many as the Eagles have had in any season this century.
Joe Realist;2099368 said:Until proven otherwise, I have to say the Eagles.
Joe Realist;2099368 said:I seem to remember Trent Green throwing all over the Cowboys (and yes I know he threw 4 picks). Jason Campbell throwing all over us and even , Jon Kitna too. Matt Moore had his moments as well.
Joe Realist;2099368 said:So unless the pass rush is more consistent (and you know itw as not last year), it is a moot point, because no matter how talented a corner or saftey is, the more time the QB has, the bigger advantage the WR's have in one on one.
we don't know that. but were gonna find out soon cause he's gonna be the guy they test early on.AsthmaField;2099643 said:That's because you're an Eagles fan.
Dude, I hope you can see that:
Newman (healthy I hope)
Henry (healthy I hope)
Jenkins
Scandrick
Ball (with a year of experience)
is much preferrable to:
Newman (injured and missing games)
Henry (injured and missing games)
Reeves
N. Jones
Ball (as a rookie)
Throw in Pacman (if available) and there will be no comparison to last year in what Dallas can do in the secondary. Even without Pacman, the improvement will be significant.
Heck, Reeves played as much or more as Newman and Henry, and he is just terrible. Jones played way too much and is mainly responsible for letting Wes Welker rape the city of Dallas last year.
Jenkis is light years better than Reeves. Do I need to tell you that Pacman is better than N. Jones?
One guy like Reeves is all it takes for teams to target and move down the field.
The Dallas pass rush was one of the better in the NFL last year and it will be much improved this year, IMO.
Just look at Wade Phillips history with his defense and the improvement in sack numbers from year 1 to year 2 everywhere he's been. Seriously, check that out.
Derinyar;2099770 said:At times one would almost think a piece of cheese cloth would be superior to Jacques Reeves. I know that isn't the case...
Dude - not an Eagles fan. I do believe our secondary will be better than last year. But all those stats don't mean squat when Eli Manning drives effortlessly down the field in under a minute to score right before the half.AsthmaField;2099643 said:That's because you're an Eagles fan.
Dude, I hope you can see that:
Newman (healthy I hope)
Henry (healthy I hope)
Jenkins
Scandrick
Ball (with a year of experience)
is much preferrable to:
Newman (injured and missing games)
Henry (injured and missing games)
Reeves
N. Jones
Ball (as a rookie)
Throw in Pacman (if available) and there will be no comparison to last year in what Dallas can do in the secondary. Even without Pacman, the improvement will be significant.
Heck, Reeves played as much or more as Newman and Henry, and he is just terrible. Jones played way too much and is mainly responsible for letting Wes Welker rape the city of Dallas last year.
Jenkis is light years better than Reeves. Do I need to tell you that Pacman is better than N. Jones?
One guy like Reeves is all it takes for teams to target and move down the field.
The Dallas pass rush was one of the better in the NFL last year and it will be much improved this year, IMO.
Just look at Wade Phillips history with his defense and the improvement in sack numbers from year 1 to year 2 everywhere he's been. Seriously, check that out.
Rampage;2099541 said:pacman was garbage his 1st year
AdamJT13;2099791 said:Jones was a top-15 cornerback in his rookie year and was beaten less than any of the Eagles' current cornerbacks. He was a top-15 cornerback his second year, too.
Joe Realist;2099788 said:But all those stats don't mean squat when Eli Manning drives effortlessly down the field in under a minute to score right before the half.
Joe Realist;2099788 said:Dude - not an Eagles fan
gbrittain;2099793 said:What do you make of Adam not playing a year. I think it should not be an issue, but do you have any concerns?
AsthmaField;2099797 said:Sure you're not.
jones was nothing special his rookie year. he was a poor tAckler,had no picks, and had a bunch of fumbles from returns. he might not have been "garbage" but he wasn't anything special.AdamJT13;2099791 said:Jones was a top-15 cornerback in his rookie year and was beaten less than any of the Eagles' current cornerbacks. He was a top-15 cornerback his second year, too.