Big 12 board votes to share TV revenue

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The30YardSlant;4163767 said:
Texas and OU trust each right now about as far as they can throw each other, and I imagine that financially sustaining six other programs will grow old quickly.

Trust has nothing to do with it. Financial Security is the key issue. OU isn't going to the PAC 12. They aren't going to the SEC and there is no better offer out there. It is what it is.
 

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Actually Oklahoma and Texas have a very close relationship between the deans and AD's. I think they trust each other more than folks realize.

I am just glad Oklahoma is the big brother and Texas is the little sister again this year.



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The30YardSlant;4163781 said:
A&M wanted out because there's more money, exposure and stability to be had in the SEC, I couldnt care less what happens to Texas. They're going to always be in a major conference no matter what, hoping the Big XII falls apart to spite them would be illogical because they'll end up wherever they choose in all likelyhood.

I won't lie though, I will take some small personal pleasure in watching Baylor die a slow, painful death as they watch their AQ status cling to life support over the next few years after the dog and pony show they put on this summer.
A&M will rue the day they went SEC, in fact, they'll be looking up at the rest of the big 12 with bitterness and envy.

it's refreshing to see you won't lie about your motivations, you've tried so hard in the past to try and appear as if A&M had nobility in their intentions to leave beyond the fact they hated being in the shadows of larger and more successful programs, strangely they seem to think going into the shadow of a different set of larger and more successful programs will be in their favor, this is why there are Aggie jokes.
 

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Dallas;4163949 said:
Actually Oklahoma and Texas have a very close relationship between the deans and AD's. I think they trust each other more than folks realize.

I am just glad Oklahoma is the big brother and Texas is the little sister again this year.



BOOMER !!!! :D


That has not been decided. I'm pretty sure they'll show up next Saturday. At that point, we'll see what's what.
 

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Aikbach;4163990 said:
A&M will rue the day they went SEC, in fact, they'll be looking up at the rest of the big 12 with bitterness and envy.

it's refreshing to see you won't lie about your motivations, you've tried so hard in the past to try and appear as if A&M had nobility in their intentions to leave beyond the fact they hated being in the shadows of larger and more successful programs, strangely they seem to think going into the shadow of a different set of larger and more successful programs will be in their favor, this is why there are Aggie jokes.

We may in fact regress as a football program, but then again it may be just the kick in the butt our program needs. I don't claim to believe we will inherently improve because we are in the SEC like many Aggies, but those claiming they know we're going to fail are just as biased the other way.

And I was speaking about my personal satisfaction, I gurantee you thoughts of Baylor played no role whatsoever in anything anyone has done regarding realignment over the past two years. Baylor is, at best, Deloss Dodd's lapdog...there to do his bidding when he himself doesnt want to come off as divisive. Nobility has nthing to do with it, who claimed we were being "noble"? We did what we thought was best for us. Stop being offended that other programs don't have Baylor's best interest in mind.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;4163935 said:
Trust has nothing to do with it. Financial Security is the key issue. OU isn't going to the PAC 12. They aren't going to the SEC and there is no better offer out there. It is what it is.

Trust has everything to do with it. OU has made no secret of the fact that they are against he Longhorn network and don't believe Dodds has been truthful with the rest of the conference through all of this.
 

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At first I loved the idea of the Aggies going to the SEC. But then I hate losing the A&M/UT rivalry. That is going to suck. And now I kind of wish that A&M would have been a little more patient and tried to stick it out in the BIG XII.

Oh well. Just hope Sherman recruits well. Bama, LSU, Florida, and even Arkansas will be tough.
 

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Fletch;4164199 said:
At first I loved the idea of the Aggies going to the SEC. But then I hate losing the A&M/UT rivalry. That is going to suck. And now I kind of wish that A&M would have been a little more patient and tried to stick it out in the BIG XII.

Oh well. Just hope Sherman recruits well. Bama, LSU, Florida, and even Arkansas will be tough.

A&M still wants to play the game, they publically expressed as much. Deloss Dodds has said that he's taking his ball and going home.
 

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Dallas;4164385 said:
Missouri in the SEC is even more hilarious than A&M punting to go there. If you think A&M will struggle, wait until you see Missouri.

If Missouri leaves I would like to def see a NON Texas team replace them, unless we fill w/ 2 more schools then I would like it to be BYU and TCU.

Again, looking at it from a pure wins and losses perspective is narrow minded. The SEC offers Missouri what the Big XII cannot, long-term stability and loyalty amongst it's members.
 

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The30YardSlant;4164399 said:
Again, looking at it from a pure wins and losses perspective is narrow minded. The SEC offers Missouri what the Big XII cannot, long-term stability and loyalty amongst it's members.
A bit ironic for someone who talked out of both sides of their mouth about being committed and then bolting to site loyalty as a concern for LEAVING, Aggie jokes seem to write themselves.
 

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Aikbach;4164517 said:
A bit ironic for someone who talked out of both sides of their mouth about being committed and then bolting to site loyalty as a concern for LEAVING, Aggie jokes seem to write themselves.

The catalyst behind all of this was Texas' unwillingness to stop pushing the envelope as far as they could with their network. A&M agreed to stay under the premise they wouldnt do a list of things they subsequently did.
 

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The30YardSlant;4164542 said:
The catalyst behind all of this was Texas' unwillingness to stop pushing the envelope as far as they could with their network. A&M agreed to stay under the premise they wouldnt do a list of things they subsequently did.
Psst, A&M was invited to be a part of the network and snubbed it.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...ce-partner-longhorn-network-deloss-dodds-says

The people who did things they said they wouldn't do were A&M who last summer committed to the Big 12 saying their word was their bond even and in a written viral statement from the AD and prez.

Meanwhile just two weeks ago it was revealed that when the Big 12 approached A&M about reconsidering a departure since revenue sharing was being renegotiated their prez accidentally spilled the beans and said they had been planning a SEC jump for 18 months, WHOOPS!

That's before the commitment to the Big 12, that's before the LHN announcement.

So quit talking about integrity and loyalty and tradition, it's all about a warped sense of living in the shadow of UT and somehow thinking it can be exercised in the SEC instead of replaced by new ones.
 

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Aikbach;4164548 said:
Psst, A&M was invited to be a part of the network and snubbed it.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...ce-partner-longhorn-network-deloss-dodds-says

Nevermind that nobody but Deloss Dodds ever said anything of the sort. In fact, everyone associated with A&M flat out denied the claim and called him a liar.

Bill Byrne:

"Our fans should know me better than that, it never happened."

Bowin Loftin:

"Suggesting that Texas A&M was ever offered any sort of partership with regards to the Longhorn Network is a preposterous assertion."

I assume you'll side with the hand that feeds you, though.

The people who did things they said they wouldn't do were A&M who last summer committed to the Big 12 saying their word was their bond even and in a written viral statement from the AD and prez.

For the tenth time, A&M never signed anything. Even Dodds admits that much. There was never anything other than an informal agreement that involved Texas' agreeing to not do certain things with their network.

Meanwhile just two weeks ago it was revealed that when the Big 12 approached A&M about reconsidering a departure since revenue sharing was being renegotiated their prez accidentally spilled the beans and said they had been planning a SEC jump for 18 months, WHOOPS!

Of course we'd been looking into going to the SEC for 18 months, hell we were five minutes away from joining the SEC last summer. OU had been planning to go to the PAC-12 for months before they announced they werent expanding. You think things like this just happen overnight on a whim?

That's before the commitment to the Big 12, that's before the LHN announcement.

Again, no ****.

So quit talking about integrity and loyalty and tradition, it's all about a warped sense of living in the shadow of UT and somehow thinking it can be exercised in the SEC instead of replaced by new ones.

We arent exercising anything other than our poor conference affiliation. Money and stability, that's the name of the game in colelge football. The SEC offers both in greater amounts than anyone else.
 

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The30YardSlant;4164563 said:
Nevermind that nobody but Deloss Dodds ever said anything of the sort. In fact, everyone associated with A&M flat out denied the claim and called him a liar.

Bill Byrne:



Bowin Loftin:



I assume you'll side with the hand that feeds you, though.



For the tenth time, A&M never signed anything. Even Dodds admits that much. There was never anything other than an informal agreement that involved Texas' agreeing to not do certain things with their network.



Of course we'd been looking into going to the SEC for 18 months, hell we were five minutes away from joining the SEC last summer. OU had been planning to go to the PAC-12 for months before they announced they werent expanding. You think things like this just happen overnight on a whim?



Again, no ****.



We arent exercising anything other than our poor conference affiliation. Money and stability, that's the name of the game in colelge football. The SEC offers both in greater amounts than anyone else.
So as you pick up your toys and leave after swearing you wouldn't you call out over your shoulder "LIAR!" to reports you turned down the opportunity for a network partnership...and we're supposed to believe you? Oy.

An Aggie's word is their bond huh...no wonder no Big 12 team would sign a waiver for you.
 

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Aikbach;4164567 said:
So as you pick up your toys and leave after swearing you wouldn't you call out over your shoulder "LIAR!" to reports you turned down the opportunity for a network partnership...and we're supposed to believe you? Oy.

I don't expect you to believe anything, no do I care if you do. I'm simply making sure you know where your beliefs stand in relation to the facts. Texas said we did, we said we didnt. Neither side is more believable than the other to the unbiased observer, of which neither of us are. A&M believes Texas screwed us over, and Baylor knows their very athletic existence hinges solely on what Texas decides to do.

An Aggie's word is their bond huh...no wonder no Big 12 team would sign a waiver for you.

Well, according to Dan Beebe they did...but Baylor had their fingers crossed.
 

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The30YardSlant;4164585 said:
I don't expect you to believe anything, no do I care if you do. I'm simply making sure you know where your beliefs stand in relation to the facts. Texas said we did, we said we didnt. Neither side is more believable than the other to the unbiased observer, of which neither of us are. A&M believes Texas screwed us over, and Baylor knows their very athletic existence hinges solely on what Texas decides to do.



Well, according to Dan Beebe they did...but Baylor had their fingers crossed.
yeah, that's why OU demanded Beebe fired, because of baylor not signing a waiver :rolleyes:...along with everyone else.

You obviously do care or you wouldn't come back to parrot the same debunked information time and time again.
 

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Aikbach;4164587 said:
yeah, that's why OU demanded Beebe fired, because of baylor not signing a waiver :rolleyes:...along with everyone else.

You obviously do care or you wouldn't come back to parrot the same debunked information time and time again.

Beebe was the king of mismanagement and deserved to be left by the wayside, but that doesnt change the fact that he gave A&M a personal statement claiming everyone had signed a waiver. Whether he was lying or not isnt the point, because he led A&M to believe we wouldface no opposition.

And where have you debunked anything? You havent even addressed the vast majority of my comments.
 

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The30YardSlant;4164596 said:
Beebe was the king of mismanagement and deserved to be left by the wayside, but that doesnt change the fact that he gave A&M a personal statement claiming everyone had signed a waiver. Whether he was lying or not isnt the point, because he led A&M to believe we wouldface no opposition.

And where have you debunked anything? You havent even addressed the vast majority of my comments.
Don't look now but you just made another unfounded assertion, all your talking points have been dissected and found wanting, sometimes with damningly contrary evidence to ignore inordr to accept your views, I'm satisfied non aggie observers understand this.

I'll leave you in peace now, just dial down your homerism, there's a reason people are rooting against you in two conferences and it ain't driven by envy.
 
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