Big Trade: NE and ARI OG Cooper and 2nd rd pick from Cards for Chandler Jones of Pats

[cowboyblue22]

the pats usually win on these type deals and trades I would bet belicheat knows what he is doing.

 

[coult44]

Both teams are trying to get better. Exactly the kind of deal we should be looking to do. Good teams make good moves!!!

 

[GroundZero1970]

I think it was for the pick Bcuz the Pat's don't have a 1st this year

 

[Nightman]

Absolutely disagree......and here's why.

Jones wasn't gonna resign w/ the Patriots. So basically what the Cards are getting is a one year rental.....unless they can resign him. Big gamble.

Patriots recoup a fairly decent pick deep in D-lineman....and get Cooper who was miscast in Arizona's power blocking scheme. IMO will be a much better fit in th Patriots zone blocking scheme.

On top of that the Patriots cleared over 5 million off their cap.....

Wouldn't shock me to see them make a run @ either Chris Long(who they have had a visit w/) or go after Hardy.

If they sign Hardy.....they probably get the same amount of production...#'s wise as they would have out of Jones.

Year Team G Comb Total Ast Sack SFTY PDef Int TDs Yds Avg Lng
2012 New England Patriots 14 45 24 21 6.0 0 4 0 0 0 0.0 0
2013 New England Patriots 16 79 40 39 11.5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0
2014 New England Patriots 10 43 30 13 6.0 0 2 0 0 0 0.0 0
2015 New England Patriots 15 44 17 6 12.5 0 1 1 0 0 0.0 0

Once again the Patriots pull a fast one on an unsuspecting team.

If Jones doesn't resign....they are gonna look pretty stupid for blowing a 2nd round pick on a 1 year rental....and throwing in a former #1 pick.

ARI got the much better player, by a lot. Cooper got benched last year.

They can franchise tag Jones in 2017 and then get a comp pick if doesn't sign long-term.

That comp would be a 3rd compared to a a 2nd they gave up.

Just like NE gave up a 3rd by letting Jones walk. Cooper may get a 6th if NE doesn't pick up his 5th year option by May 3rd for 12m.

 

[Hoofbite]

ARI got the much better player, by a lot. Cooper got benched last year.

They can franchise tag Jones in 2017 and then get a comp pick if doesn't sign long-term.

That comp would be a 3rd compared to a a 2nd they gave up.

Just like NE gave up a 3rd by letting Jones walk. Cooper may get a 6th if NE doesn't pick up his 5th year option by May 3rd for 12m.

I doubt any franchise puts that much thought into compensatory picks 2 years out.

 

[Nightman]

I doubt any franchise puts that much thought into compensatory picks 2 years out.

yeah I'm sure they just wing it and throws darts at a board

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Is this the same cooper that was highly coveted on these forums? I didn't know he was a bust with the cards..

 

[Insomniac]

Whoa. Belichick does not play around.

I have to think something is wrong with Chandler Jones. Background, something. Could be the synthetic marijuana thing.

Cooper has been a big waste and a second round choice for a very good pass rusher is not equitable.

It's about money. The Patriots have 3 other young defensive players that are also due for new contracts, Hightower, Collins and Butler. Probably can't fit those 3 and Jones under the cap.