Biggest,Most,Largest,Glaring Problem as I see it

tunahelper

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Romo played bad I know

WR ran dumb *** routes I know

but

OL SUCKS! Overrated isnt wordy enough!!!!

We have seen this before and it is common denominator in the offense ineffectiveness. Romo made some bad decisions, but who wouldnt with the amount of pressure he has to deal with?

Flo needs to be replaced. I know easier said than done, but this is the problem folks. Leonard Davis is beast, but he should be placed at LT next year and we need a beast, tough, stout interior ORG.

Davis is an average in line RG run blocker and I think he is more athletic than road grader. Flo's pluses are outweighed by his mistakes.

Unless we address this problem the team WILL continue to underachieve.
 

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Romo talked about their inabilty to identify who was a LBer and who was a DL.

I really believe a lot of our porblems have to with the center position and his inabilty to handle the mental part of that position as well as we need to make the correct calls.
 

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Could be? Maybe find a grade A center & move Gurode to RG and Davis to LT?
 

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tunahelper;2512118 said:
Flo needs to be replaced. I know easier said than done, but this is the problem folks. Leonard Davis is beast, but he should be placed at LT next year and we need a beast, tough, stout interior ORG.

Davis is an average in line RG run blocker and I think he is more athletic than road grader. Flo's pluses are outweighed by his mistakes.

Wow... You didn't hear about Davis' experiences at LT in Arizona did you? To give you an idea, it would be described as "nightmare".

Davis is actually a very good run blocker at RG. I don't remember the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure our YPC running right are much higher than running left.
 

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Maybe a healthy Kosier can make the calls next year?
 

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adamc91115;2512249 said:
Wow... You didn't hear about Davis' experiences at LT in Arizona did you? To give you an idea, it would be described as "nightmare".

Davis is actually a very good run blocker at RG. I don't remember the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure our YPC running right are much higher than running left.

Well in Arizona, according Davis the run game was non-existent and team always loaded up to pass. I havent seen Davis mash people inside?

If we are so strong inside run blockers why were we scared to run on 3rd/4th & short?

Man this line stinks and needs to be reworked. I aint buying the hype anymore because the line folds against good defenses everytime.
 

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tunahelper;2512290 said:
Well in Arizona, according Davis the run game was non-existent and team always loaded up to pass. I havent seen Davis mash people inside?

If we are so strong inside run blockers why were we scared to run on 3rd/4th & short?

Man this line stinks and needs to be reworked. I aint buying the hype anymore because the line folds against good defenses everytime.

This team is successful running to the right.... Garrett doesn't choose to systematically run right... Further, Garrett puts too much pressure on the line with his deep vertical passing game... instead of moving forward, this OL has to sustain pass protection standing up all game long...

part of the OC job is to adjust... if pressure is coming, he needs to move Romo out of the pocket, or run screens and flares... counter the aggression and over-pursuit by attacking that very side...
 

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tunahelper;2512290 said:
If we are so strong inside run blockers why were we scared to run on 3rd/4th & short?

Ask Jason Garrett. I can't answer that for you. I can only give you the information that I have.

Barber left: 3.1 YPC
Barber right: 4.8 YPC

Felix left: 3.3 YPC
Felix right: 6.9 YPC
Choice left: 4.8 YPC
Choice right: 5.2 YPC

Jones and Choice don't have as many carries, but you get the idea. These are runs to right guard, not including outside runs.

So you see, RG is actually the strongest position on the Oline. Its the LEAST of our problems.
 

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Ive been saying move Gurode to LG for weeks now and keep him there. You can get a stud center with a 2nd rounder. Kosier and Holland would be fantastic depth. Get rid of the rest of the back up o-lineman because the reak of non development and that mentality must be wisked away. We can snag a backup Tackle in free agency or give a team who knows how to draft and develop lineman a 4th or 5th like we did for Holland since we stink in this regard.

Our most glaring needs is a true nose tackle, either a guard or center depending if we move Gurode over and a solid backup tackle. Let's not forget the ever lingering safety issue which i think can be fixed by putting Hamlin at SS and Henry at FS. RW is someone we can trade for a backup tackle or package to move up in the draft to get a useful player on either line.

Gurode is a stud blocker but is sloppy as we know on snaps. You put him beside Flo and you will see how much more Flo is effective when his guy to his right doesn't get lifted into the rafters. Gurode cannot continue snapping the ball but is a dominating blocker. I'd leave Bigg exactly were he is and the Colombo signing at that price was utter brilliance. I would not put Kosier at center because he doesn't get enough push and that means Tony gets pressured down the middle easier adwe don't run up the gut as well either.
 

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adamc91115;2512363 said:
Ask Jason Garrett. I can't answer that for you. I can only give you the information that I have.

Barber left: 3.1 YPC
Barber right: 4.8 YPC

Felix left: 3.3 YPC
Felix right: 6.9 YPC
Choice left: 4.8 YPC
Choice right: 5.2 YPC

Jones and Choice don't have as many carries, but you get the idea. These are runs to right guard, not including outside runs.

So you see, RG is actually the strongest position on the Oline. Its the LEAST of our problems.

What are the pressure stats for LB's running free and pressuring Romo on every down?
 

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tunahelper;2512381 said:
What are the pressure stats for LB's running free and pressuring Romo on every down?

What relevance does that have to what I just posted or what you were originally talking about?

You started this talking about needing a "beast" RG. We have one. Stop grasping at straws.

You wanna see people run free at Romo? Move Davis to LT and you will get your wish.

I find it interested that you didn't bring up the real weak spot... LG. I actually like TheRake's idea of moving Gurode to LG and finding a decent center.
 

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adamc91115;2512421 said:
What relevance does that have to what I just posted or what you were originally talking about?

You started this talking about needing a "beast" RG. We have one. Stop grasping at straws.

You wanna see people run free at Romo? Move Davis to LT and you will get your wish.

I find it interested that you didn't bring up the real weak spot... LG. I actually like TheRake's idea of moving Gurode to LG and finding a decent center.

Our Beast RG and Pro Bowl center let continual pressure right up the middle.
Also the inside running game was a joke.

You need to quit wishing on a star cause this OL has more than enough proof for me to realize they are average and way overpaid.

I hope I am wrong but their play all season has shown to be pedestrian not pro bowl.
 

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tunahelper;2512458 said:
Our Beast RG and Pro Bowl center let continual pressure right up the middle.
Also the inside running game was a joke.

You need to quit wishing on a star cause this OL has more than enough proof for me to realize they are average and way overpaid.

I hope I am wrong but their play all season has shown to be pedestrian not pro bowl.

Wow I give up. I already said moving Gurode to LG would be good.

I give you facts and you give me irrational post-game *****ing. Thanks.
 

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Our line is fine. They just got more pressure than we did beacue they actually have a talented front 7. Meanwhile, we have 2...Ware and Ratliff
 

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Both of the interceptions were to supposed to go to TO and he was not paying attention or going after the ball. There was two dropped passes in the first half to TO that Romo hit him in a bad place (the hands) but TO should have caught them anyway.
Not to mention the off field crap and complaining TO has been doing. All of the media and everyone says that if the Cowboys can come together as a team they can win the big one. That will never happen as long as you have a cancer like TO inside the locker. TO is not on the team it is all about TO and he does not care about the team or anyone else. He is a cancer and a waste of the earths precious oxygen. No team will ever win with a cancer like that to destroy them from the inside.
They play the game for 60 minutes yet TO has hours of bragging about himself or complaining about it. Shut up and play. Cut the cancer and start winning again.

Flosmell, has never been able to cut it. People blow right past him or he gets a false start or holding penalty. Does anyone think that will change? Cut him. Should have cut him 5 years ago and they gave him a big raise and a new contract???? WTH? How much longer is everyone going to keep holding our for Flosmell to cut it?

Everyone wants to blame Romo and our coaches. Romo,Witten, Choice and or coaches never gave up and kept us in the game until the end. TO and Flosmell never showed up to play.
Our defense did very good but those two long running plays killed us. Overall I am very impressed with the improvements our defense has made in the last few months.
Not at all surprised at TO and Flosmell's performance. It is what it is and it is the same as they have always done.
 

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I have been saying move Gurode to guard and get a more instinctive guy at Center. I have been saying this OL is not fiscally balanced. Leonard Davis at 50M is a non-factor playing guard. I thougth we would let Colombo walk and make Davs earn his money at Tackle. But for what we paid him to play Guard is laughable.....and I said it at the time.
 

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CaptainAmerica;2512219 said:
Romo talked about their inabilty to identify who was a LBer and who was a DL.

I really believe a lot of our porblems have to with the center position and his inabilty to handle the mental part of that position as well as we need to make the correct calls.

Agree. I'm trying to remember where I heard it earlier in the year -- maybe even a Wade conference call -- that Kosier helps Gurode with a lot of the line calls.

What's weird is, Gurode is a smart guy in real life. But from the line calls to repeatedly missing the snap count to the erratic shotgun snaps, he plays dumb.
 

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With the Commanders realistically out of the hunt, I am disappointed that you lost to the Ravens yesterday. I wanted the Commanders to be the final team to achieve a victory at Texas Stadium. :mad:
 

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adamc91115;2512249 said:
Wow... You didn't hear about Davis' experiences at LT in Arizona did you? To give you an idea, it would be described as "nightmare".

That's hardly true. Davis was a good left tackle and a multiple-time Pro Bowl alternate at the position. He just didn't live up to his draft status and become one of the best in the game at the position, which is why some fans considered him a "bust." But to those within the NFL, he was considered a pretty good left tackle.
 
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