Biggest question mark can this defense improve their run def?

[tomokawan]

They could of spent fa money to upgrade our run defense, but they chose to go the low budget route again with depth signings. They had an opportunity to draft a high end DT at 12, but decided to add more high resources to our OL where they already had 2 1st rd picks invested.

Last year, Zimmer was begging for DT help and signed every old NT he could find late in fa where no options were left. I understand they have time before the start of the season, but their history suggests all they do is sign aging, low cost veterans year after year without no plan.

Who was the great DT at 12??

 

[DuncanIso]

They could of spent fa money to upgrade our run defense, but they chose to go the low budget route again with depth signings. They had an opportunity to draft a high end DT at 12, but decided to add more high resources to our OL where they already had 2 1st rd picks invested.

Last year, Zimmer was begging for DT help and signed every old NT he could find late in fa where no options were left. I understand they have time before the start of the season, but their history suggests all they do is sign aging, low cost veterans year after year without no plan.

Salary cap.

 

[Hadenough]

Dak doesn't have much either outside of Lamb, yes he has an OL but even that has issues at the Tackle position.

Dak has Schoonmaker, Ferguson, Lamb, Tolbert who by the way was 3rd round pick and he is a solid #2 Dak just needs to trust him. Dak has a nice pass catching RB in Blue.
Dak made his bed when he demanded this contract and Jerry paid him. QBs getting paid like Dak don't normally have the luxury of having a top tier supporting cast.
We've seen Dak with Martin and Frederick and Zeke and Amari and Lamb and Witten.
And the Cowboys constantly neglect the middle of the defense. It's criminal thinking Dak needs more help.

 

[blueblood70]

Based on their prior history, they usually draft a late NT and add a low level, aging fa. When this fails, they rush to add street fa's. Until this changes, no reason to expect different results as they just don't make it a priority like the better teams do. Just look at last offseason, they cut their late rd addition (brought him back), forced to make a trade with the Giants to add Phillips, signed over the hill Joseph cause they were so desperate. It is the same cycle year after year with the same results, a poor run defense.

Well based on a lot of history you wouldn't think a 7th round pick would become a starting quarterback for the 49ers or a sixth round pick be the goat of all goats you wouldn't have thought that an undrafted free agent in Tony Romo or Kurt Warner would have the careers they had sometimes you just keep picking them and one time it's going to stick so before we announce how awful the season is going to be on defense and how we're going to finish worse than 29 how about we just wait and see so we don't have to have a debate like this? What I'm seeing is they have a lot of beef they have a lot of bodies to choose from they can make this an open competition May the best couple win and get a true nose tackle the rest will be cut and then we'll see what this new coaching staff can do so you're still harping on last year this isn't last year this is a brand new coaching staff with a brand new scheme who are now wanting to bring their groceries in and see if they can make a dinner and we're going to find out..

Say this again and and maybe you can't hear me

last year was a failure not because what they didn't do in the offseason there is no amount of names that they could have brought in that could have covered up that mess of injuries we had again is Derek Henry can become Bo Jackson he could have played three defensive spots two offensive spots and maybe even special teams and then we could have brought in Aaron Donald he could have brought played four different positions yeah maybe they could have fixed what happened last year but no I think last year was more of a failure because we had a lame duck first year defensive coordinator they didn't do much at all in free agency at all prior to the draft and then had a bunch of injuries to boot on top of it most of it was all on defense if you act like that didn't happen and that it was only because the lack of all season work and the lack of commitment to getting a running back and a defensive tackle I'm going to tell you how wrong you are because you're being delusional I get it we'll find out this year how this year went...

 

[blueblood70]

Having issues with the site. I wanted Mykell Williams and either the UCLA LB or Ty Williams and take the other missed in the following rd. Unfortunately, the league saw it the same way and they all went ahead of our picks. Should of drafted either Harmon or Grant at 12, both have potential to become impact DT's.

Yes the site can be slow loading or lag time it's been weird since right before the draft but I get what you wanted all I'm saying is last year was last year we have a completely different defensive staff in one of these days if you think that we won't hit on one of these defensive tackles or one of the ones we bring in free agency isn't going to work we had this conversation about defensive backs safeties even linebackers and they're starting to pretty much fix those positions so hopefully this gets fixed this year at least on the road to being fixed but I've seen plenty of undrafted free agents or low round picks turn into something I know they keep picking the fruit that's already fallen off the trees but one of these days they're going to find a fresh one and it could work out just like some of the best undrafted free agents a history of football or the low free agents I mentioned in my other post I get what you wanted and they seriously considered Walter Nolan like it was a hard choice for them so at least they were thinking of it.

I'm not making excuses but I'm not going to sit here and act like they're going to finish worse than last year i'm not going to sit here and say they're going to finish better than last year i'm saying put this on hold this is a new year new staff and let's just watch and be entertained we'll discuss this season when it's over and if you are right I'll give you your flowers but I expect the same the injuries we had last year were more of the problem than it was the players that we didn't bring in I realized if we were a 10 win team made the playoffs and were one and done and it was because we didn't address anything that wasn't the case it was over before it started the injuries were early often and all the way till the end of the year you can't expect the year to have gone better anyway in hindsight it didn't matter.

So this year I believe they've done more I think they're allowing the new defensive coordinator the new defensive line coach pick some of these guys and there are people out there that said that Toya whatever his name is and another player we can't spell his name was supposed to be a consensus top one 100 on a lot of people's boards he was worth the top 100 he just got overlooked I don't know if that's true or not but some people say he's a steel because we got him at mid 200 so maybe it is like getting him in the fourth round.?...

 

[blueblood70]

Who was the great DT at 12??

I don't think there was any great ones but the only one they were considering was Walter Nolan they said it was a hard choice but they went off into line and I was trying to tell him look neither one of us could say either we're going to be good or better or worse than next year we just need to sit and watch and see what happens but that guy we picked up from ucla toila yeah I probably messing up his name was supposed to be in the top 100 on a lot of people's boards so he we got him in the 7th round it seems like a steal to me and maybe he'll be better than expected I think Rogers has a shot I mean if those three are battling it out plus the other guy we got in the 7th I mean we got enough beef there for competition in the new defensive tackle coach and the defensive line coach and our defensive coordinator together might be able to make this work better than last year if we didn't have 18 injuries throughout the team mostly on defense and we're going to blame the lack of talent on a bunch of injuries..

Not to say we didn't need more talent but I think they've done way more this year before the draft in the draft and they'll do more before the season starts than they did last year so I'm OK just waiting to have this debate after the seasons over not claim that we're going to be worse than 29th and not taking into account all the injuries and the quick change over the lame duck defensive coordinator there were so many things that happened that we need to give this a chance..

 

[zrinkill]

I mean yea ....... if real coaches were hired instead of Jerry yes men.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I dont think the FO kept it a secret their plan on the D-line was OSA and Mazi takes a big step.... it really just comes down to can Mazi play or can he not...because if he can not the run defense wont be much better.....