Bill Barnwell: Jerry's Broken Toy

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The apologists will simply say that we're doing fine. We'll just restructure a few contracts and voila, instant competitive team.

No other team is even remotely close to $31 over the cap for next year. I guess we're the only ones in on this secret of pushing money into the future. Jerry Jones has been doing it for years ... and has a single playoff win in 17 years to show for it.

Yes, we're doing great. Another 8-8 season looms ... great work.

Why do people conveniently stop at 17 years when talking the past. Go back 5 more and include the 3 super bowls
 

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He's a giants fan and I think this article is pretty biased. He certainly gets some facts right and nails Jerry's bad contracts, but I think this article could be written about a lot of teams.

I stopped taking him seriously when he basically said since 2003 we have had a running back problem because we've "run through" a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder and have had 4 starting backs in the last 10 years. Um, are there other teams that have had one back that whole time and used no picks or money? Running backs don't last long in the league, and other than Barber (yes, bad contract) there haven't been any large financial commitments there but he says we want to devote "more money" to the running back position. I don't understand his logic here at all and think he sounds a bit silly. Am a alone here on this one?

No...
 

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We got Bledslow when Kurt Warner was available. People in the Org. wanted to bring in Charles Woodson... guess who didn't?

Because Parcells sucks. His tenure here stunk. I don't understand why Cowboy fans are so reverent to his modicum of organizational restructure for zero results. He hit on a few draft picks. So has RHG. So what?

Guess what? They both stink.
 

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My guess would be that Jerruh wasn't calling the shots back then like JJ said...just a thought though... :)

Right.. anything bad - blame Jerry, anything good - find someone else to give the credit.

Just like all the good draft picks lately were Garretts and the busts are all on Jerry wanting fancy toys
 

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Why do people conveniently stop at 17 years when talking the past. Go back 5 more and include the 3 super bowls

Maybe it's because the operational structure of the team had changed dramatically two years before that, and the residue of Jimmy Johnson's work led to the third Super Bowl.
 

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Why do people convenienty stop at 17 years when talking the past. Go back 5 more and include the 3 super bowls

If your 11th grader brings home "F's" on his report card, do you say "well he did make the honor roll in the 2nd grade"? The farther you get away from that success the less leeway you get.
 

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If your 11th grader brings home "F's" on his report card, do you say "well he did make the honor roll in the 2nd grade"? The farther you get away from that success the less leeway you get.

Is a Super Bowl the only thing other than an F? We have had a couple of breaks go against us in the playoffs the last 8 or so years. We gonna blame the bobbled snap on Jerry? The heartbreaking 3 point loss to the eventual champs in 07? The playoff win in 2010? We have been close in pretty recent years,
 

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Is a Super Bowl the only thing other than an F? We have had a couple of breaks go against us in the playoffs the last 8 or so years. We gonna blame the bobbled snap on Jerry? The heartbreaking 3 point loss to the eventual champs in 07? The playoff win in 2010? We have been close in pretty recent years,
Close? The only time we were close was 2007, and that wasn't even a championship game, we lost a divisional playoff game. And yes based on Cowboys history a Super Bowl win has been the bar, but every year that bar seems to be getting lower and lower where we are now satisfied with 8-8.
 

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Close? The only time we were close was 2007, and that wasn't even a championship game, we lost a divisional playoff game. And yes based on Cowboys history a Super Bowl win has been the bar, but every year that bar seems to be getting lower and lower where we are now satisfied with 8-8.

What would you change? It seems like people just expect Jerry to completely clean house every year we don't win a Super Bowl.
 

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Jason said in January 2011 that he planned to give up play calling to Calahan. Jerry went on for a year that he wanted Garrett to call plays. A year later, Garrett give up play calling. Those are all facts that can be backed up by years worth of articles and quotes. Your opinion that Jones stripped him is simply that - an opinion. It is based on no facts relating to this situation.
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Funny. That is one way to position the teams transformation under Garrett. Of course, the other is that Garrett has done a very good job of building and developing talent as we as acquiring a great group of coaches around him. You also havent sensed a theme in the draft picks lately? Do you feel the Cowboys still "feel" like they did under Phillips? They interview/talk the same? Take trips to cabo? Quit on their coach? Splintered? Have separate meetings to complain about other coaches?

Give me a break. If you dont see the difference in the roster, than you are choosing to turn a blind eye.
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And? He is a second year player who missed all of camp and got injured the first week of the season. If you didnt think he would struggle, maybe you were being unrealistic? And just because he sucked for the first 5 games of 2013, that doesnt make it a bad pick.
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I didnt name coaches with just first bad years. I named coaches who got fired because there was no critical thinking being done in the organization. Hence why I didnt name Landry. Landry is a great example of sticking with the process until it bares fruit. Cower as well.
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Not at all. I wanted Phillips gone. I thought the game (coaching wise) had passed Parcells. I think Garrett is going to be our best HC since Jimmy. And its not because of hype. Its because of the clear changes he has made.

Best head coach since Jimmy? Well that's relative isn't it? Landry was on the cutting edge, an innovator, the first to use computers to draft players, 4-3 defense, flex, man-in-motion, 10 NFC championship appearances. Garrett does not belong next to him in my opinion, and damn sure not next to Johnson, who could ring the most out of his players. Sorry, like Burleson quipped about Dez, No way! The possible plausibles have been outpaced by the pedestrian pervasives and we can but wonder if the peculiar proclivities of Garrett's philosophy will bear fruit before all the stars in the heavens burn out!
 

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mitchellst: 5264536 said:
Is a Super Bowl the only thing other than an F? We have had a couple of breaks go against us in the playoffs the last 8 or so years. We gonna blame the bobbled snap on Jerry? The heartbreaking 3 point loss to the eventual champs in 07? The playoff win in 2010? We have been close in pretty recent years,

Uh, what do you consider close? Soooo we made C+ a couple of years and now you want to throw a party.
 

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Right.. anything bad - blame Jerry, anything good - find someone else to give the credit.

Just like all the good draft picks lately were Garretts and the busts are all on Jerry wanting fancy toys

I know...17 years of total Jerruh is obviously not a full body of work. Nor is the fact that JJ has explicitly said in the first few years Jerruh didn't interfere. Good point.
 

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Believe what you want. His time in dallas was much to do about nothing.

Eh, it didn't get the team where the needed to be, but it was certainly much better than any coach before or after.

I often wonder what the talent on the team would do today with real coaching like Parcells could bring.

Plus it was the only time Jerry really ceded much control. Look what happened.
 

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Eh, it didn't get the team where the needed to be, but it was certainly much better than any coach before or after.

I often wonder what the talent on the team would do today with real coaching like Parcells could bring.

Plus it was the only time Jerry really ceded much control. Look what happened.

Correctomundo FOnzie. The only two times he conceded control (Jimmy Jonson and Bill Parcells) the team actually improved. Go figure that one Jerruh backers.
 

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Why do people conveniently stop at 17 years when talking the past. Go back 5 more and include the 3 super bowls

Does that excuse the last 17 years? I'm glad we got those, but it's been a long, long time. There is really no excuse for a .500 record dating back 17 years in the "parity age" of the NFL. We are in the era of overnight turnarounds from 2-14 and the like. Many other teams have stunk, gotten good, stunk again, and gotten good again in that time. We just stay the same in perpetuity.
 
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