Bill's Eyes: Who played Bad? Oh, and the refs

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Did you listen to Bill's press conference?
He said several 'positions' didn't play well on Sunday.

Here is my guess of who they were:

1. Flozell Hotel Adams
2. Drew Bledsoe
3. Anthony Henry (LOL sorry)
4. Terrence Newman
5. Suisham (except for kickoffs)


Anyone disagree?

This is sort of a 'no duh' discussion right?

I thought it was also interesting that Bill was ok with the two calls many of you guys thought were 'total BS' - Henry no call and Witten PI. I actually think we got the upper hand on calls in the game.
 

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goshan said:
Did you listen to Bill's press conference?
He said several 'positions' didn't play well on Sunday.

Here is my guess of who they were:

1. Flozell Hotel Adams
2. Drew Bledsoe
3. Patrick Henry
4. Terrence Newman
5. Suisham (except for kickoffs)


Anyone disagree?

This is sort of a 'no duh' discussion right?

I thought it was also interesting that Bill was ok with the two calls many of you guys thought were 'total BS' - Henry no call and Witten PI. I actually think we got the upper hand on calls in the game.

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I don't totally disagree.

However, Leftwich threw several incredible passes to WRs who were pretty well covered. Maybe someone could have thrown the WR off some or possibly cover them better. I thought Leftwich was on fire though.

Also he had too much time to throw.
 

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goshan said:
Did you listen to Bill's press conference?
He said several 'positions' didn't play well on Sunday.

Here is my guess of who they were:

1. Flozell Hotel Adams
2. Drew Bledsoe
3. Anthony Henry (LOL sorry)
4. Terrence Newman
5. Suisham (except for kickoffs)


Anyone disagree?

This is sort of a 'no duh' discussion right?

I thought it was also interesting that Bill was ok with the two calls many of you guys thought were 'total BS' - Henry no call and Witten PI. I actually think we got the upper hand on calls in the game.





While i agree with this for the most part, i have to disagree with Newman. While he did get beat on at least two plays (one of which was pretty deep), i think he played fairly well. He had several pass defenses, incuding a temendous effort in the endzone. He was decent against the run as well. I can only remember one missed tackle off of the top of my head. Thats how i recall it anyway.
 

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I agree, Newman had a pretty decent game. Two very good deflections. On the sideline route he just turned his hips too soon and started to bail right as Reggie Williams made his break. He gave up what, like 2 catches for 30-40 yards? Not a great day, but Im not going to complain about him too much when we had such other glaring problems.
 

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landryscorner said:
I think Wittens, pushing off was HUGE!! thats 7 points
While I agree that the pro-bowler should get the benefit of a doubt, he has to learn to get away with it. Michael Irvin should be on speed dial. Go teach him Mike!
 

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I blame our pash rush more than I blame the corners.

I blame our pash rush on Zimmer.

So poor corner play = Zimmer's fault.
 

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aznhalf said:
I blame our pash rush more than I blame the corners.

I blame our pash rush on Zimmer.

So poor corner play = Zimmer's fault.

Well then that falls on Parcells. I remember him saying in a PC that Zimmer was starting to see the diffrent looks and diffrent kind of schemes he could use. Parcells told him he had to tone it down a bit.
 

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Considering our starting free safety was benched in the middle of the game, I think there's a strong likelihood it would be one of the positions in question.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Newman had 3 passes defensed, and oinly 3 balls completed on him. How did he play bad?

because this is the Cowboyszone...if someone on here sees one pass completed on Newman's side of the field, he sux and was a terrible draft pick

David
 

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InmanRoshi said:
Considering our starting free safety was benched in the middle of the game, I think there's a strong likelihood it would be one of the positions in question.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't BP say that Watkins got hit in his elbow. Did something else happen because I saw him in the 3rd Q going into the 4th.
 

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BlueStar22 said:
While I agree that the pro-bowler should get the benefit of a doubt, he has to learn to get away with it. Michael Irvin should be on speed dial. Go teach him Mike!

That'd be nice. I don't think Irvin could get away with half the stuff he used to. Ahhhh, the good 'ol days.
 

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Well then that falls on Parcells. I remember him saying in a PC that Zimmer was starting to see the diffrent looks and diffrent kind of schemes he could use. Parcells told him he had to tone it down a bit.

cough cough bull stuff cough cough
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Future 585 said:
cough cough bull stuff cough cough
:bang2:

RECAP: Bill Parcells Press Conference 8/15 (Video)

DBoys link:
Here is the file but be warned it is jacked

http://files.filefront.com/parcells_.../fileinfo.html


InmanRoshi Recap
Nothing new roster wise. Some of our injured guys are coming along good, and I expect them back real quickly. We’re trying to make a big push here this week, so I worked them hard this morning in practice. We don’t have much time between the next two games, so we got to get them ready.

Terry’s injury?
Its the same thing. Fowler and Carpenter are making a lot of progress.

What did you talk to Terry about yesterday?
How the weather is doing in California. How he’s doing. What kind of car he’s driving

What kind of car is he driving?
I can’t say.

Why did you have Flo down with the 3rd string?
I didn’t move him down. His knee is a little sore so I’m trying to get him less reps.

Spears?
He’s doing well, but he needs a lot of work.

Fergie?
My approach with him is like an old car. I want him up and running, and I don’t want him parked. That’s like a 48 Packard. Once they’re parked the fenders and wheels come off, and they’re stripped down to nothing.

Why has he been so durable?
He’s very thick. Massive muscle in his lower body. Very powerfull guy. Very hard to put a dent in that armor.

Do you think he’s as funny as his teammates find him?
He is a fun loving guy, and I enjoy his personality. He know when to be serious and when to have fun. I’m proud of him. He’s done well in his career and handled his business well. I think he’ll do well after his career is done as well. I saw him come in as a 7th round draft pick with a lot of skepticism around him. He didn’t get much money coming in, but he’s done well with his career.

What do you need from him now that Glover is gone?
I’m going to need more from him until I can get one of these other nosetackles in place. I’m still not sure what I’ll do there. I got some young guys working there, but I could even move one of the DE’s over there if necessary. Jason can do this about as long as he wants to, but when the tediousness of training and stuff takes over that’s when his time will run out. But as long as he tenacious enough to keep his weight up he can do this job.

Why have you had such success with 7th round draft picks?
I have no idea. I don’t want to sound like a horseguy here, but some numbers just work better than other.

Which end do you think will move inside?
I don’t know. We just got 5 or 6 ends here that are good players, so whoever the next guy is that’s who I’ll move over. I’m not saying I will. I like Pepper. I kept him last year for a reason. When he knows the down and distance and the probability of the play he’s a good player. But when he just has to figure out what’s going to happen, he’s just average. He has to be good all the time. Stanley is a young guy who is used to playing a gap defense, and now we’re trying ot make him a two gap player. He’s got a good body and he’s got some toughness, but its not an easy transition.

What happens if Spears gets back to where he was?
We’ll be in a good situation at end. Hatcher has some work to do against the run. He can contribute right away in the pass, but against the run he’s got some work to do. But I see a little more toughness from this team on defense. We got a little attitude here that I haven’t seen before.

How many plays can you get out of Fergie?
That’s a good question. I probably don’t want him in nickel. That’s 450-500 snaps in the season.

Does any particular end have a better body type to play nose?
Yeah, Ratliff. But he’s a player that has been moved around a lot in football … he’s played about 6 different positions since college. He started out as a tight end. Then moved to defensive end. Then moved to defense tackle … then I get him. Its set his progress back. But he’s got just a tremendous motor. A very enthusiastic player. He would have played a big role for us as a nickel rusher last year had he not gotten hurt.

Did he play as well in the game as he practiced?
No, he hasn’t been out there since Week 5 last year. I can’t stress this enough guys …. You just can’t get in tune in this game by watching. I can’t stress this enough. Especially the linemen. I’ve never seen a player do it. Even Flozell … I still see the effects of that. You got to stay with it. Ideally after a good training camp after you work hard you get a little battle hardened. That’s when you’re ready to play the season. But I got to change my whole practice venue here … right now I’ve been in evaluation mode and getting guys snaps. Next week I got to get the guys ready to play.

Is Colombo in the same position with not playing?
Yes, very much so. Very much. So now we got to get him playing.

Do you think he can be a player?
I hope so. He’s got better leg strength, which was important to him. He needed to get his strength up, but that wasn’t his fault. He couldn’t lift weights for a couple of years.. He’s one of these weight room guys who will stay in there all day. Him and Proctor. He’ll play a half at least on Monday Night. All the tackles are still in contention to start. He did passable enough in the game. He played against their 1st string, so I was able to get a better evaluation of him than the other guy.

Vanderjagt hasn’t’ kicked the last couple of days. Concerned?
Don’t get me started on these kickers.

Terrell was running. Is that siginificant?
I don’t have much to say. The subject is getting redundant.

Will Al get any time with the 1’s or is this Andre’s job?
I won’t say its anyone’s job, but Andre has played better to this point. But Al plays better against a 4 man front, and every team we play this year uses one.

Zimmer getting more familiar with the 3-4?
Big difference this year. Much more comfortable in the defense. Conceptually he understands it so much better than last year. Now I have to keep his mind from racing, because he’s seeing possibilities. They put a game plan together the other day for Seattle, I took one look at it and handed it right back to him and told him to cut it in half. I want to evaluate these guys based on their talent, not on how much knowledge they’ve retained. I don’t want tentative players in the preseason because they’re constantly having to think about stuff.


Have you ever had a coach learn a system in the middle of the season?
Of course. I was one. Mike has a good background, his father was a coach. I think with him, once he started to understand the philosophy of personnel the other stuff came quickly. Here is what we’re looking for at this position, don’t compromise. Here is what we’re looking for from that position, don’t compromise. He’s got all that stuff now. I think initially its human nature that you’ve been in a scheme that you know and like you’re hesitant, but good coaches can coach anything. But if you don’t have a philosophy of personnel in the NFL you have no chance to win. And there are a lot of guys in this league who don’t. You have to know what you’re looking for. And even if you know what you’re looking for, sometimes its hard to find it. We’ve been lucky to accumulate some players the past couple of years.

(Daily Bledsoe question about how he’s progressed since he first had him).
He’s been very durable as a player. Only suffered one serious injury. By and large he’s been productive. He hasn’t always had the best cast. I think he’s done a good job with his career. Just to survive, there haven’t been a lot of guys live as long as he has physically. I’ve told him, God has been good to him.

The pressure of being the overall #1 pick?
It’s a cottage industry with this draft, but my own personal attitude is that I don’t look at it like that. I hope to bring in player who I think will help me win and be a part of this franchise for a while. I don’t worry about who is #1, #2, #3 … I can name a lot of players in the top 10 that weren’t good investments. I don’t care what anyone says, no one hits on those picks all the time. If you hit half, you’re lucky.

How is your defense tougher?
I just see more confidence and attitude. We’re bigger and faster. They have confidence in one another.

Which RT will you not use MNF?
I’ll tell you who I will use. I’ll use Fabini and Colombo. I’ve moved Pettiti to the left. I wont make up my mind what I’ll do there until Jacksonville.

Is Pettiti’s move to the left side temporary?
I haven’t decided yet. If you only keep 3 tackles, the 3rd guy has to play both sides. So I’m trying to get him some experience there.

How much does your philosophy of personnel dicate or change given the circumstances. Sometimes the colleges don’t produce what you are looking for?
I got some information about you Babe. I heard that they called you Mr. August when you were here because you had a penchant for leading your team back to preseason victories. I had a guy like that?

Did he play long in the league?
Yeah. He played for 14years. They may be there, but in different spots. Most 3-4 OLB’s in the NFL played defensive end in college. You look at the Steelers and they took Vrabel and Alonzo Jackson out of FSU and those guys didn’t work. But they knew what they were looking for and they also took Haggans and Porter and it did work. They know what they are looking for, it just doesn’t work all the time …. Just like the rest of us.

You say you don’t like substituting packages a lot and you like to your base defense straight up …. But does it make you tentative with Ellis at a OLB. Are you worried they will try to attack him in coverage?

I think teams will try to spread us out and take advantage of that. I talked to Mike about that last night. “How would you attack us?”. They’ll try to spread us out. Now, if we can cover it when they spread us out, then we can get a lot of sacks.

Did he do that well the other night?
Yeah. He got one sack that we didn’t count. When we had LT we wouldn’t count those as sacks. We call those freebies, they aren’t sacks. Him and Junior Glymph.
 

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kojak said:
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Zimmer getting more familiar with the 3-4?
Big difference this year. Much more comfortable in the defense. Conceptually he understands it so much better than last year. Now I have to keep his mind from racing, because he’s seeing possibilities. They put a game plan together the other day for Seattle, I took one look at it and handed it right back to him and told him to cut it in half. I want to evaluate these guys based on their talent, not on how much knowledge they’ve retained. I don’t want tentative players in the preseason because they’re constantly having to think about stuff.


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whats strange is that when you watch Cowboys games, there really isnt much to what they are doing...they all pretty much line up the same way every down...very few blitzes and the ones we do use are pretty easy to see coming or are very poorly designed and ineffective...the coverage schemes also appear to be very vanilla as our LB's do almost the exact same thing every time...LB's and safeties are almost never in a position to make a play on the ball, or even when they are its like they wont take the chance...thats coached IMO...

this team plays tentative and scared defensively, and its gone on like this for years

David
 

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whats strange is that when you watch Cowboys games, there really isnt much to what they are doing...they all pretty much line up the same way every down...very few blitzes and the ones we do use are pretty easy to see coming or are very poorly designed and ineffective...the coverage schemes also appear to be very vanilla as our LB's do almost the exact same thing every time...LB's and safeties are almost never in a position to make a play on the ball, or even when they are its like they wont take the chance...thats coached IMO...

this team plays tentative and scared defensively, and its gone on like this for years

David

Oh I agree with what you are saying. I am just wondering how much of a leash does Parcells have on Zimmer when it comes to calling plays?

The above paragraph in bold taken from the PC, pretty much tells us Parcells wants to tone down the playcalling on defense because Zimmers mind races with the possibilities and diffrent kinds of schemes that can be used in the 3-4.

I am tired of seeing the bend but not break approach becuase somebody(my guess is Parcells) doesn't want to risk getting burnt by aggressive playcalling. He has also stated in PC that he put his two cents worth in and sometimes has the fianl say so in what calls are being played on both sides of the ball.

I just want to start seeing the creativity that can be used in the 3-4. Whether it's Mike or Bill. But the pieces in defense are in place and it's time that they start utilizing some of the talent we have.
 
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