Blackouts

[Kangaroo]

Mecixo City Jaguaros

Toronto Panthers

I betting Jacksonville will end up in LA

Jacksonville has struggled since it was given a franchise in supporting the team with ticket sales.

 

[Jay]

It's Jacksonville and Carolina? I thought it was Jacksonville and San Diego?

 

[Doomsday101]

I betting Jacksonville will end up in LA

Jacksonville has struggled since it was given a franchise in supporting the team with ticket sales.

That is a possibility even though I'm not sure LA is deserving of having any NFL team. They ran out the Rams and the Raiders with poor attendance. Problem Jacksonville has is with 2 other teams in the state (Miami and Tampa Bay) it is hard to attract fans even in your own city who may have been die hard dolphin fans long before Jacksonville got a team

 

[zeroburrito]

If someone lives that close to the team they care about, I don't see how they have a right to complain about not seeing the game if they aren't even willing to buy a ticket when they're available.

maybe they prefer to see the game in high def on a comfy couch? if they get blacked they will just go to a sports bar. still a better view of the game.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

That is a possibility even though I'm not sure LA is deserving of having any NFL team. They ran out the Rams and the Raiders with poor attendance. Problem Jacksonville has is with 2 other teams in the state (Miami and Tampa Bay) it is hard to attract fans even in your own city who may have been die hard dolphin fans long before Jacksonville got a team

A big part of the issue in LA is the venue. LA does not have stadium that would meet the standards set by other NFL teams. Any potential owner would need to build a facility that would match those currenlty in the league and it does not appear that anybody is rushing forward to fill the gap.

 

[tskyler]

Just my opinion but no way LA gets a team. No way they pay enough for a stadium to get someone to move. If the NFL was smart and greedy enough to really push up the sagging values of small market teams they would allow Vegas to bid on a team. Sure, they would have a huge gambling scandal someday but IMHO that would be better than the firestorm generated by a franchise move to Mexico or Canada.

 

[Daudr]

I betting Jacksonville will end up in LA

Jacksonville has struggled since it was given a franchise in supporting the team with ticket sales.

There is a lot of discussion about the Jaguars (or another team) ending up in London very, very soon.

 

[Doomsday101]

A big part of the issue in LA is the venue. LA does not have stadium that would meet the standards set by other NFL teams. Any potential owner would need to build a facility that would match those currenlty in the league and it does not appear that anybody is rushing forward to fill the gap.

I don't think LA is much of a football town. I think the owners are trying to force the horse to water and make him drink. Because of the market size and the fact the networks operate out of LA and NY they feel a team needs to be there but I don't see the push from fans in the LA area fighting for it.

 

[tskyler]

I don't think LA is much of a football town. I think the owners are trying to force the horse to water and make him drink. Because of the market size and the fact the networks operate out of LA and NY they feel a team needs to be there but I don't see the push from fans in the LA area fighting for it.

I don't think even the NFL is pushing for it. A move to LA was the club that the NFL used in the 90's to threaten politicians to fund stadium construction and repairs. They haven't used it much lately since people kinda got wind of it. But why kill off a tool in a market where there is no political will to build a stadium mega project in a state that has been paying its bills with toilet paper?

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think even the NFL is pushing for it. A move to LA was the club that the NFL used in the 90's to threaten politicians to fund stadium construction and repairs. They haven't used it much lately since people kinda got wind of it. But why kill off a tool in a market where there is no political will to build a stadium mega project in a state that has been paying its bills with toilet paper?

I still hear owners talking about the issue in LA from time to time. I would just as soon hear it die out and just move on. I'm sure there are some cities that have football crazy fans but no team. Nebraska anyone? The Jags could be the Nebraska Cornholes.

 

[WoodysGirl]

NFL won't be altering blackout rule
Posted by Mike Florio on August 31, 2009 11:28 PM ET

We've heard scattered rumors regarding NFL fears that more than a dozen teams might face local blackouts at some point this year. Recently, Mark Maske of the Washington Post identified three hot spots (Jacksonville, San Diego, and Minnesota) and several other potential problem cities.

According to Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal, the August 19 ownership meeting in Chicago included a presentation that identified up to a dozen teams that might have one or more games blacked out in 2009.

Last year, only three teams failed to sell enough tickets to permit local broadcast of one or more of their games: the Raiders, Lions, and Rams. In all, only nine of 256 regular-season games were blacked out.

But the NFL won't be changing its 36-year-old blackout rule, which requires a game to be sold out 72 hours before kickoff in order to be televised locally.

"There is no consideration being given to amending the blackout policy," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told Kaplan. "The policy is important in supporting the ability of the clubs to sell tickets and keeping our games attractive as television programming with large crowds so we can keep all our games on free TV."

The Jaguars already expect to have none of their ten home games shown on local television, and the Chargers have braced their fans for some not-see TV. Other teams might slide into that category if the losses pile up early.

So, no matter how bad it gets, the NFL won't be making any special Cowboys Stadium video board rules for the the much smaller video screens throughout the markets where tickets won't sell.

 

[Big Country]

I don't think LA is much of a football town. I think the owners are trying to force the horse to water and make him drink. Because of the market size and the fact the networks operate out of LA and NY they feel a team needs to be there but I don't see the push from fans in the LA area fighting for it.

well put. I agree completely

 

[Jay]

I'd rather have LA than London. Having a team in London is just ridiculously stupid to me. I'm gonna lose it the day they announce OUR Super Bowl is being played in a different country.

 

[Soth]

The NFL sees it differently. They either make money from selling tickets, parking, concessions, etc., or they make nothing from the people staying home instead of going to the game.

If someone lives that close to the team they care about, I don't see how they have a right to complain about not seeing the game if they aren't even willing to buy a ticket when they're available.

So nobody makes any money from the TV commercials which are being watched by tons of local fans?

How many people would watch a Cowboys game in Dallas vs. a Chargers game? I know the NFL has contracts with TV networks, but it is obvious you would make less money off TV commercials if you don't show the game from the local team. If the NFL gets the same money from their TV contracts regardless of # of viewers, then the networks are the ones that get screwed with the blackouts.

 

[burmafrd]

Even in the late 70's and early 80's when the Rams were good they did not draw all that well. The Raiders the same. NFL football just does not seem to attract the LA people. And then you HAVE to have a new stadium with club boxes in order for the team to make money and that means it would have to be funded ENTIRELY by the owner. Considering its California and anything big there will cost 50% more then anywhere else you are looking at around $1.5 billion AT LEAST for a new stadium. Now show me a prospective owner that has that kind of cash in his pocket?

 

[craig71]

The only part of the blackout rule that riles me is having to deal with being part of the Houston home market.Even though i'm 60 miles or so from Houston,if the Toxins play at home the same time as Dallas there is no Dallas game to be watched.It can make for a long Sunday,I mean who wants to watch a stupid Toxins game.

Craig

 

[rantanamo]

The owners don't care if there's a local blackout because that's not directly their revenue. Heck, the larger market owners would probably prefer all games be on HBO or even pay-per-view like boxing as it would put tickets at a premium so higher prices, plus more direct, personal revenue. That may really be the future some day.

 

[jazzcat22]

Just seen on ESPN bottom line that 12 teams are possibly up for blackouts this season. The NFL would be freaking idiots if they make a team black out a game. If you have a 65000 seat stadium and you sell 57000 seats, I dont see what the big deal is. Just give those 8000 seats to kids and charities. It would be a different story if a 70000 seat stadium had 25000 tickets sold. But even then, what is the point of the blackout? How can you acquire fans from the younger generation if they cant see the game. For example, if the Cowboys were blacked out in Texas and the only game of the week that was on was the AFC, and the youth of Texas see just as many Chargers or Broncos games then the home team, how would that help the home team acquiring new fans? By far the dumbest idea ever. I know its been around for a long time but I don't understand it. I'll use Jerry as an example, he has a billion dollars in his bank account and their going to penalize the fan for not dishing out 100 plus bucks to go to the game when they already have tons of money. Greed I say.

50 dollars to park in some stadiums is flat out stealing. Then you have the 8-10 dollar beer( I don't drink but I know a lot of people do) and throw in the 4 dollar pretzel etc etc. You get the idea. I'll ask you this whose stealing from who? They wonder why people download music off the internet. Its rich people bleeding every dime out of the average person and then they throw it back in your face if you watch a game online or download a song off the internet and make you look like the bad guy when really its the other way around. I just paid 280 dollars for Sunday Ticket and the NFL just got I think 2.1 billion dollars for it. That's almost 80 million per team. Don't black out the games after all of that. Where do you draw the line?

Sounds like your on a rant more about pricing than you are about blackouts....