Blake Griffin is not a max contract player

[baj1dallas]

For all the criticism teams get for signing guys like Joe Johnson to max contracts, nobody has one bad thing to say about Griffin's max deal. And the reason why is because Griffin is a "star". He's on ESPN almost every night, he does commercials, people know who he is.

But he is far from a complete player. He has no outside game. His offensive repetoire is way less than the best players at his position. At best he is nothing special defensively, at worst he is a liability. He's not a good free throw shooter.

But because he's a big name, this will be viewed as a great deal for the Clippers and people will say that it means that CP3 should re-sign and stay in LA. IMO though Griffin is not a guy you can build a championship caliber team around.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I agree that Blake Griffen isn't a max player right now, but he's a lot closer than Joe Johnson ever was.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

There's a huge NBA offseason thread you know that?

I agree though. Griffin is barely a top 5 player at his position let alone a max player.

 

[MC KAos]

basketball wise, he absolutely isnt, but he puts butts on seats, so in those terms, he deserves every penny.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

basketball wise, he absolutely isnt, but he puts butts on seats, so in those terms, he deserves every penny.

It'll really come back to bite them if Paul bolts. They'll have the highest/most overpaid frontcourt in the league for a long time.

 

[MC KAos]

It'll really come back to bite them if Paul bolts. They'll have the highest/most overpaid frontcourt in the league for a long time.

ya, jordan is definitely overpayed. but even if paul leaves, they will still sell out so long as blake is healthy and still dunking like crazy. i think the bigger worry is if he were to get hurt and lose his athleticism

 

[baj1dallas]

There's a huge NBA offseason thread you know that?

This is a more specific point, and that thread is so long that I can't really read it anymore, it scrolls off my screen. I'm not a fan of having everything tangentially related to one topic crammed in one massive thread that's too long to make sense of.

 

[baj1dallas]

ya, jordan is definitely overpayed. but even if paul leaves, they will still sell out so long as blake is healthy and still dunking like crazy. i think the bigger worry is if he were to get hurt and lose his athleticism

That's great if all you care about it making money, but what about winning?

 

[MC KAos]

This is a more specific point, and that thread is so long that I can't really read it anymore, it scrolls off my screen. I'm not a fan of having everything tangentially related to one topic crammed in one massive thread that's too long to make sense of.

we might as well have an NBA sub forum! lol

 

[NeonNinja]

Max Sportscenter Highlight player. :laugh2:

Not worth max contract IMO.

 

[MC KAos]

That's great if all you care about it making money, but what about winning?

uh, its donald sterling, its the clippers, i think thats what they care about first and foremost

 

[RastaRocket]

He only has two years in the NBA. He shot 55% last season and 51% his rookie season. He averages a double double a game with over 20 pts. He has a PER over 23, which is the 7th highest in the NBA. I agree, he has some issues just like any young player. However, I still think he deserves a max contract. He drops points, and gets mad rebounds at the PF.

 

[jterrell]

Griffin is a max player.

He is a young stud who will only get better.
Comparing him to Joe Johnson is hilarious. Johnson is a Michael Finley caliber player at the soft 2/3 spots. Griffin is a beast of a big man who gets rebounds by the dozens and scores consistently. He'll round out his game and be a mega-star.

Griffin is 2 years in and averaging 21.7 pts and 11.5 rebounds.
2 years in Joe Johnson was averaging around 9 points per game.
Johnson averaged more than 21.7 points only once and that was a season he averaged 25 but played 50+ games not 82.

I actually get what you are saying. But Griffin is a legit difference maker in the paint. You do pay big money for that every time. Using guys like Joe Johnson was merely a bad example.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Griffin is a nice player who puts up nice numbers, but no way is he a max player. He's not even a top 5 PF. I'd take Love, Dirk, Gasol, Aldridge, and even old guys like Duncan and Garnett over him. He relies way too much on his athleticism. Once he loses it he'll be a scrub. Horrible defender and very limited offensively. No low post moves whatsoever, doesn't have a jumper. Basically all he can do is dunk. Most overrated player in the game.

 

[RastaRocket]

That's a bit much. I agree he isn't a top 5 PF; but that is an incredibly valuable position. You can definitely make the case he is top 5 though and I wont argue it much. He is a max player.

Brook Lopez just got a max contract people, so did Eric Gordon, and Roy Hibbert. BG is a max player.

Blake had the 7th best PER last season. He is a max player!

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Brook Lopez just got a max contract people, so did Eric Gordon, and Roy Hibbert. BG is a max player.

Blake had the 7th best PER last season. He is a max player!

I'm pretty sure everyone that says BG isn't a max player, think he's closer than those guys, who did recieve max deals as well. The overall point is how teams foolishly over pay for above averege players, which is what all 3 guys you mentioned are. Atleast BG has a much higher upside.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

That's a bit much. I agree he isn't a top 5 PF; but that is an incredibly valuable position. You can definitely make the case he is top 5 though and I wont argue it much. He is a max player.

Brook Lopez just got a max contract people, so did Eric Gordon, and Roy Hibbert. BG is a max player.

Blake had the 7th best PER last season. He is a max player!

Neither of those guys deserved it. Brook Lopez isn't even a top 5 center. It's absolute joke he got the max. There's only two centers deserving of max contracts. Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum

 

[jterrell]

Griffin is a nice player who puts up nice numbers, but no way is he a max player. He's not even a top 5 PF. I'd take Love, Dirk, Gasol, Aldridge, and even old guys like Duncan and Garnett over him. He relies way too much on his athleticism. Once he loses it he'll be a scrub. Horrible defender and very limited offensively. No low post moves whatsoever, doesn't have a jumper. Basically all he can do is dunk. Most overrated player in the game.

no offense but if you believe that you are basketball stupid.

all cris carter did was score TDs....

gasol is toast, dirk has 2 years left by his own admission, aldridge is arguable(but he'll get max too).

btw.. every guy you listed is a max type guy or was when they got the last contract.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

no offense but if you believe that you are basketball stupid.

all cris carter did was score TDs....

gasol is toast, dirk has 2 years left by his own admission, aldridge is arguable(but he'll get max too).

btw.. every guy you listed is a max type guy or was when they got the last contract.

Gasol, Dirk, and Aldridge are better than Griffin. That's my point.

 

[jterrell]

Gasol, Dirk, and Aldridge are better than Griffin. That's my point.

this is where your age shows.

nba contracts are paid out over years not all in one day.

dirk is going 2 more years than retiring.
gasol is already done basically but will limp along for 2 years. he isn't better than blake right now and will far less this year.

blake is a baby by nba standards and still dominating on the boards and with his ability to get to the rim and score versus anyone.

there are not 10 players in the league NBA execs would start a team with over Blake. that is the very definition of max player.

that and the fact is griffin was a free agent 20 teams would be trying to offer him the max.

i love dirk. been my fave player for almost a decade but i'd trade him straight up for blake right now in a heart beat. and dirk is definitely a max player.