Blake Griffin is not a max contract player

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

this is where your age shows.

nba contracts are paid out over years not all in one day.

dirk is going 2 more years than retiring.
gasol is already done basically but will limp along for 2 years. he isn't better than blake right now and will far less this year.

blake is a baby by nba standards and still dominating on the boards and with his ability to get to the rim and score versus anyone.

there are not 10 players in the league NBA execs would start a team with over Blake. that is the very definition of max player.

that and the fact is griffin was a free agent 20 teams would be trying to offer him the max.

i love dirk. been my fave player for almost a decade but i'd trade him straight up for blake right now in a heart beat. and dirk is definitely a max player.

Gasol is done? :laugh1:

A guy who averaged 17/10 last year as the #2 option is done? Wow just wow. Gasol is clearly better because he actually has an offensive game. He has lowpost moves. He has a jumper. He's also a decent defender. Griffin has none of those things. There's plenty of guys around the league who GM's would rather have as their franchise player. His own teammate Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, LeMarcus Aldridge, LeBron James, Russell Westbrook, Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, and Andrew Bynum.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Griffin just injured his knee in Las Vegas. He will be scheduled for an MRI to see how seriously. Rookie Anthony Davis has been asked to report to USA Basketball Training Camp immediately.

 

[jterrell]

Gasol is done? :laugh1:

A guy who averaged 17/10 last year as the #2 option is done? Wow just wow. Gasol is clearly better because he actually has an offensive game. He has lowpost moves. He has a jumper. He's also a decent defender. Griffin has none of those things. There's plenty of guys around the league who GM's would rather have as their franchise player. His own teammate Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, LeMarcus Aldridge, LeBron James, Russell Westbrook, Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, and Andrew Bynum.

your bball IQ is really, really low.

gasol is a spare big man at this point who is overpaid, soft and aging. your lakers are trying to give him away in trade.

just basic math facts but 17/10 is a lot less than 21.5/11.5

gasol is not a good defender. he is an average defender whose offense is all finesse.

http://www.nba.com/games/20120404/LALLAC/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

What the clip. Notice the replay about 5 times where Griffin skies over Gasol for the rebound/dunk knocking Gasol to the ground like a little girl.

In that game Griffin had 15 points/14 boards. Gasol had 12 and 7.

Gasol wasn't the #2 option. Bynum was.

Right now in LA Gasol is the 4th offensive option. Kobe, Nash, Bynum, Gasol.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

your bball IQ is really, really low.

gasol is a spare big man at this point who is overpaid, soft and aging. your lakers are trying to give him away in trade.

just basic math facts but 17/10 is a lot less than 21.5/11.5

gasol is not a good defender. he is an average defender whose offense is all finesse.

http://www.nba.com/games/20120404/LALLAC/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

What the clip. Notice the replay about 5 times where Griffin skies over Gasol for the rebound/dunk knocking Gasol to the ground like a little girl.

In that game Griffin had 15 points/14 boards. Gasol had 12 and 7.

Gasol wasn't the #2 option. Bynum was.

Right now in LA Gasol is the 4th offensive option. Kobe, Nash, Bynum, Gasol.

Why don't you actually get your facts straight before talking nonsense? Pau isn't on the trading block anymore and the only reason he was because the Lakers desperately needed bench help. Then they got Steve Nash. Griffin averages btter numbers of course he does because he's the #2 option on his team. Gasol is #3. Of course his stats aren't gonna be as good. That game you provided was a one game example who cares? I also like how you conviently left out the fact that Griffin only shot 7/16 which is awful for a big. A couple of those dunks shouldn't have counted since they were offensive fouls.

 

[Zordon]

apparently he twisted his knee on a dunk attempt in team USA practice today.

the kid has to learn some actual skills if he's going to have any longevity in the league.

they are awaiting the results on the mri....

 

[The30YardSlant]

Inferior players have received max contracts, and Griffin is a consistent 10-15 foot jumper away from being a top 10 player.

 

[RastaRocket]

Neither of those guys deserved it. Brook Lopez isn't even a top 5 center. It's absolute joke he got the max. There's only two centers deserving of max contracts. Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum

Ya but a good big man is very rare. They are in high demand. High demand = higher price. It's just how it works.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Inferior players have received max contracts, and Griffin is a consistent 10-15 foot jumper away from being a top 10 player.

He also needs some post moves and needs to learn a thing called defense.

 

[The30YardSlant]

He also needs some post moves and needs to learn a thing called defense.

The majority of the league's top 10-15 players are average defenders at best.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

The majority of the league's top 10-15 players are average defenders at best.

Not true even if it was average is better than way below average like Biff is.

 

[MC KAos]

there is only a handful of players that deserve max contracts, in my opinion. and blake isnt one of them, neither is bynum for that matter. in my opinion, max contracts should be reserved for guys like kobe, lebron, dwight, durant, cp3, rose and dwill. off the top of my head, those are the only guys i think deserve a max contract. but the way GMs in the NBA overpay for guys like lopez and hibbert, i dont have a problem with griffin getting it. like i stated, besides him being an up and coming player with a lot of potential, he draws people to the game, he sells tickets, he deserves it because without him, the clippers would lose at least that much in their profit stream.

 

[MC KAos]

The majority of the league's top 10-15 players are average defenders at best.

i dont know about the majority, but there is at least 5 of them that are average at best

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Griffin has a torn meniscus. He may never be the same again athletically. Drew had the same injury in 2010, but his game isn't relied on his athleticism.

 

[baj1dallas]

The majority of the league's top 10-15 players are average defenders at best.

uh no. Kobe, Wade, Lebron are outstanding defenders. Durant is a better defender than Blake and he's not particularly good. Hardin, Howard, Hibbert, Garnett, Bynum, even Duncan, all better defenders than Blake. You guys are way overrating Blake because of his numbers. Blake is not better right now than Gasol - either of them. He is certainly younger, I won't argue that.

 

[MC KAos]

Griffin has a torn meniscus. He may never be the same again athletically. Drew had the same injury in 2010, but his game isn't relied on his athleticism.

he had a much worse injury his first year and came back just fine, I dont think its out of the realm of possibility for him to come back to full form

 

[The30YardSlant]

uh no. Kobe, Wade, Lebron are outstanding defenders. Durant is a better defender than Blake and he's not particularly good. Hardin, Howard, Hibbert, Garnett, Bynum, even Duncan, all better defenders than Blake. You guys are way overrating Blake because of his numbers. Blake is not better right now than Gasol - either of them. He is certainly younger, I won't argue that.

Nowitzki, Durant, Gasol, Paul (His steals numbers are misleading), Rose, Carmelo, Pierce, Nash, Williams and Bynum are unanimous top 15-20 players who are average to below average defenders. Thus, my statement stands. And this isnt even including guys who are arguably average defenders on a normal day like Westbrook and Harden.

 

[Noryb]

Nowitzki, Durant, Gasol, Paul (His steals numbers are misleading), Rose, Carmelo, Pierce, Nash, Williams and Bynum are unanimous top 15-20 players who are average to below average defenders. Thus, my statement stands. And this isnt even including guys who are arguably average defenders on a normal day like Westbrook and Harden.

The fact that he's made the All-Defensive team 4 times must be misleading too.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Nowitzki, Durant, Gasol, Paul (His steals numbers are misleading), Rose, Carmelo, Pierce, Nash, Williams and Bynum are unanimous top 15-20 players who are average to below average defenders. Thus, my statement stands. And this isnt even including guys who are arguably average defenders on a normal day like Westbrook and Harden.

Bynum is not an average defender. He's a terrific shot blocker and a great lowpost defender. The only thing he struggles with his pick and roll. He's as good as any defender at his position outside of Howard and Chandler.

 

[jterrell]

uh no. Kobe, Wade, Lebron are outstanding defenders. Durant is a better defender than Blake and he's not particularly good. Hardin, Howard, Hibbert, Garnett, Bynum, even Duncan, all better defenders than Blake. You guys are way overrating Blake because of his numbers. Blake is not better right now than Gasol - either of them. He is certainly younger, I won't argue that.

Uh, yes. Blake of a far better player than Pau Gasol as seen when they play each other.

I hate when people who do not even bother watching basketball start speaking about it.

This isn't 2009. Blake Griffin's numbers were all very real as were his highlight dunks. So is his age. Pau Gasol is being offered to every team in trade. Blake Griffin was a dead lock to get max dollars form the cheapest owner in the NBA.

So, please stop with the silliness.

 

[jterrell]

he had a much worse injury his first year and came back just fine, I dont think its out of the realm of possibility for him to come back to full form

He'll be 100% by training camp.
It is no where near a career or season-threatening injury.

He just misses the Olympics which is probably good for the Clippers.