Blame this player, blame that coach, blame ..

[Dogstar]

Plummer should have been picked a least two more times than he was. I thought Cowboys looked stronger on D but our Offense waqs weak. We need a stronger running game!

 

[Mike 1967]

Plummer should have been picked a least two more times than he was. I thought Cowboys looked stronger on D but our Offense waqs weak. We need a stronger running game!

The O-Line does appear to be a weak link

But if anyone told me in the offseason that Tucker would be starting a LT and a late round rookie would be starting at RT.......my expectations would have been low for both the running and passing games.

Especially when it is well documented that Bledsoe needs time and space to be effective.

 

[Chuck 54]

I think the difference between a kicker and the other position players, like Bledsoe, Newman, Davis, etc, is that those players are on the field contributing play after play after play...you expect some mistakes like Bledsoe's int, Newman's drop, and Davis's missed tackle. However, they are on the field contributing positively on 40-60 other plays, giving them a chance to make up for it, giving them an extremely high percentage of successful plays that kept us in the game, whether it was with passes defensed, tackles made, or passes thrown and td's scored.

The kicker is here to kick-off and make fg's. Cundiff had 1 fg attempt. It was from 34 yards, a distance most kickers are almost automatic from. I can guarantee you Parcells wasn't covering his eyes and praying for that kick to go through...he expected it to go through. Cundiff didn't get the job done on the 1 play of the entire game where he was expected to help us win.

In fact, you are correct about the game being won on many other occasions. But you are wrong, imo, for deflecting blame from Cundiff. There's a reason Cortez and Suisham were both cut. Other games could have and should have been won by anyone else making a play or a coach calling the right play as well. But with kickers, they are paid a lot of money to go out there and make the 34 yarder late in the fourth quarter when everyone else has battled their guts out.

Kickers aren't perfect, but Cundiff didn't do his job, and it played a huge role in our losing the game. Let's not forget that while the Bronco's would have been playing the final minutes differently trailing by 3, that we also would have been playing defense differently if leading by 3...that missed kick was demoralizing and planted the "oh no" thought in everyone's minds, not just the fans.

Let Cundiff miss another of those at crunch time and you'll find that Parcells has a slightly different view of who lost the game. Cundiff blew it...he shouldn't be fired, but he is on notice....if there was a consistent kicker available, he'd be a Cowboy, but we have to deal with what we have.

 

[Reality]

I do love the Parcells' quote from back when he was a Giant coach during pre-game warmups .. the trainer was telling Parcells that kicker Matt Briar (I think that's his name) was feeling sick and may not be able to play .. Parcells said, "He doesn't have to play, he just has to kick"

 

[Sarge]

I think the difference between a kicker and the other position players, like Bledsoe, Newman, Davis, etc, is that those players are on the field contributing play after play after play...you expect some mistakes like Bledsoe's int, Newman's drop, and Davis's missed tackle. However, they are on the field contributing positively on 40-60 other plays, giving them a chance to make up for it, giving them an extremely high percentage of successful plays that kept us in the game, whether it was with passes defensed, tackles made, or passes thrown and td's scored.

The kicker is here to kick-off and make fg's. Cundiff had 1 fg attempt. It was from 34 yards, a distance most kickers are almost automatic from. I can guarantee you Parcells wasn't covering his eyes and praying for that kick to go through...he expected it to go through. Cundiff didn't get the job done on the 1 play of the entire game where he was expected to help us win.

In fact, you are correct about the game being won on many other occasions. But you are wrong, imo, for deflecting blame from Cundiff. There's a reason Cortez and Suisham were both cut. Other games could have and should have been won by anyone else making a play or a coach calling the right play as well. But with kickers, they are paid a lot of money to go out there and make the 34 yarder late in the fourth quarter when everyone else has battled their guts out.

Kickers aren't perfect, but Cundiff didn't do his job, and it played a huge role in our losing the game. Let's not forget that while the Bronco's would have been playing the final minutes differently trailing by 3, that we also would have been playing defense differently if leading by 3...that missed kick was demoralizing and planted the "oh no" thought in everyone's minds, not just the fans.

Let Cundiff miss another of those at crunch time and you'll find that Parcells has a slightly different view of who lost the game. Cundiff blew it...he shouldn't be fired, but he is on notice....if there was a consistent kicker available, he'd be a Cowboy, but we have to deal with what we have.

Excellent post Wayno.

 

[Kaika]

Three Games in 11 days . 2 & 1. They played Damn good.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:starspin

 

[dbair1967]

Three Games in 11 days . 2 & 1. They played Damn good.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:starspin

they played a 4-6 team, a 4-7 team and a good team...they should be 2-1

but other than the Denver game, no, they didnt play good

David

 

[Future]

argue what you want but that is the third game we have lost because of a missed FG. IDK how else you could look at it...if you lose by less than 3 and miss a FG

 

[jimmy40]

The TEAM did enough to win the game. You don't think Denver was playing aggressive to win the game in regulation? That 50 yard bomb told me that they didn't want to go into OT. Things happen in the ebb and flow of the game, and mostly it is a TEAM loss. Not yesterday. The TEAM put them in position to win the game. The KICKER blew it. Not the team.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

 

[Wolverine]

Good post Reality. I agree. Blaming Cundiff is just wrong. There are to many other things that went wrong in the game where fingers can be pointed to also.

Billy Cundiffs miss cost us 3 points. Drew Bledsoes INT cost us 7 points. If Glenn does not drop a couple of passes or if this or if that. Fact is pointing the finger only at Cundiff is just lame.

This is a 10-6 team. We are a playoff contender and we barely got beat by a Super Bowl contender. That tells me we are almost there. With this coming off season I have faith in Parcells that he will take us to the next level and that is winning #6.

Next year we will win games like this.

 

[jimmy40]

I think the difference between a kicker and the other position players, like Bledsoe, Newman, Davis, etc, is that those players are on the field contributing play after play after play...you expect some mistakes like Bledsoe's int, Newman's drop, and Davis's missed tackle. However, they are on the field contributing positively on 40-60 other plays, giving them a chance to make up for it, giving them an extremely high percentage of successful plays that kept us in the game, whether it was with passes defensed, tackles made, or passes thrown and td's scored.

The kicker is here to kick-off and make fg's. Cundiff had 1 fg attempt. It was from 34 yards, a distance most kickers are almost automatic from. I can guarantee you Parcells wasn't covering his eyes and praying for that kick to go through...he expected it to go through. Cundiff didn't get the job done on the 1 play of the entire game where he was expected to help us win.

In fact, you are correct about the game being won on many other occasions. But you are wrong, imo, for deflecting blame from Cundiff. There's a reason Cortez and Suisham were both cut. Other games could have and should have been won by anyone else making a play or a coach calling the right play as well. But with kickers, they are paid a lot of money to go out there and make the 34 yarder late in the fourth quarter when everyone else has battled their guts out.

Kickers aren't perfect, but Cundiff didn't do his job, and it played a huge role in our losing the game. Let's not forget that while the Bronco's would have been playing the final minutes differently trailing by 3, that we also would have been playing defense differently if leading by 3...that missed kick was demoralizing and planted the "oh no" thought in everyone's minds, not just the fans.

Let Cundiff miss another of those at crunch time and you'll find that Parcells has a slightly different view of who lost the game. Cundiff blew it...he shouldn't be fired, but he is on notice....if there was a consistent kicker available, he'd be a Cowboy, but we have to deal with what we have.

So what you're saying is the kicker doesn't get chance after chance after blowing a play like all the other guys. I wonder how many of them would blow a play if they knew thay only got one chance. hmmmmm
btw: I didn't see anyone *****ing after that 56 yarder last week.

 

[Kilyin]

I knew someone would try that Chaos Theory Butterfly Effect BS. Cundiff cost us the game, end of story.

 

[superpunk]

So what you're saying is the kicker doesn't get chance after chance after blowing a play like all the other guys. I wonder how many of them would blow a play if they knew thay only got one chance. hmmmmm
btw: I didn't see anyone *****ing after that 56 yarder last week.

Sorry, but I'd rather have a game winning 34 yarder than a meaningless 56 yarder any day. Who's gonna complain about a kicker actually doing his job anyway? That's a ridiculous statement

 

[Sarge]

btw: I didn't see anyone *****ing after that 56 yarder last week.

Indeed, that would have made a lot of sense to %$^#@ about winning the game.

 

[Wolverine]

I knew someone would try that Chaos Theory Butterfly Effect BS. Cundiff cost us the game, end of story.

You......you.....you know nothing about football.

 

[Kilyin]

You......you.....you know nothing about football.

I know more about it than you'll ever forget you little pudwacker.

 

[Wolverine]

I know more about it than you'll ever forget you little pudwacker.

You cant even get the saying right. It should be I will forget more about football then you will ever know. I am just way smarter then you it is that simple.

 

[Kilyin]

You cant even get the saying right. It should be I will forget more about football then you will ever know. I am just way smarter then you it is that simple.

Yeah, you're such a genius. Go choke your chicken and fantasize some more about TO.

:jerk:

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Blaming the kicker is wrong. However, how many games would NE have lost in the past 4-5 years if not for Vinitieri winning the game in the last seconds with his foot. With NFL teams being so close in talent these days, the importance of a sound kicking game has been magnified. The Cowboys aren't ever again going to be the team that dominates almost every game. They could afford to keep bargain basement kickers because of the superiority in talent they had back in the day. It's time we see the value of both a kicker with ice-water veins, & pay him accordingly, and a coach who knows how to get the best out of the kickers he has. (Seems like we had one of those & got rid of him....too costly.).

 

[Cowchips]

The only thing about Cundiff's kick vs. the rest of the plays was that Cundiff shows up on the field for only 1 purpose..kick a field goal. When it's a 50yarder and it's a 50% chance of being good, that's one thing..when it's a 30yarder which is supposed to be a 98% success rate, a miss has to be considered the worst play of the game.

The other plays you have to take in relation to the entire game, Bledsoe's overall completion % of 70% (for example) is good for example and the Glenn pass is part of a very good stat.

Moral..you can't expect every pass to be successful, but you should expect every chip shot field goal to be successful, or at least 98% of them.