Bledsoe and Bad O-lines

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First, I am a big Bledsoe supporter but I do find it curious that it seems like whereever Bledsoe goes a bad oline follows.

New England's oline was terrible but good enough for Brady to lead them to a Superbowl.

Buffalos oline is terrible but does seem to protect better then Dallas' oline.

Dallas oline quality speaks for itself after yesterday.

I am sorry to say I may be giving up on the issue being factors other than Bledsoe. Although I still think he is a HOFr and is Dallas best option next year.
 

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Cowchips said:
First, I am a big Bledsoe supporter but I do find it curious that it seems like whereever Bledsoe goes a bad oline follows.

New England's oline was terrible but good enough for Brady to lead them to a Superbowl.

Buffalos oline is terrible but does seem to protect better then Dallas' oline.

Dallas oline quality speaks for itself after yesterday.

I am sorry to say I may be giving up on the issue being factors other than Bledsoe. Although I still think he is a HOFr and is Dallas best option next year.
Drew had nothing to do with Flozell's injury, nothing to do with Al's bad knees and lack of strength, nothing to do with oldman Rivera's treadmill incident that apparently crippled his back. nothing to do with forcing a 6th rd pick into the starting role his 1st year.
 

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You see how good Favre is without blocking, ...HE SUCKS !!
 

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WV Cowboy said:
You see how good Favre is without blocking, ...HE SUCKS !!

Dude -- you just lost that shot at a Monday Night Football gig with that comment.
 

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We had an average OL before signing Drew. Injuries and overall bad play has exacerbated the issue to make it a bad OL.

You would think with three pro bowlers on the line, we'd have better play. But I think really it comes down to chemistry. There's none on the OL. Players switching positions, new teams, new QB, rotating centers.

They havent' been able to develop the chemistry necessary to be consistent. It seemed like they were on their way when Flo went down. After that, well you guys see the results.
 

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abersonc said:
Dude -- you just lost that shot at a Monday Night Football gig with that comment.
LOL, dangit man, I was so looking forward to that too. :D
 

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Cowchips said:
First, I am a big Bledsoe supporter but I do find it curious that it seems like whereever Bledsoe goes a bad oline follows.

New England's oline was terrible but good enough for Brady to lead them to a Superbowl.

Buffalos oline is terrible but does seem to protect better then Dallas' oline.

Dallas oline quality speaks for itself after yesterday.

I am sorry to say I may be giving up on the issue being factors other than Bledsoe. Although I still think he is a HOFr and is Dallas best option next year.

Nah, I am pretty sure the Cowboys OL gaving up more sacks than last year has nothing to do with Bledsoe. Or that New England's OL plays well even with almost I think three starters or is it two starters out has nothing to do with Brady as well. ;)
 

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New England's oline was terrible but good enough for Brady to lead them to a Superbowl..
True. And the best offensive mind in football devised an offense that allowed this to happen... quick slants and screens designed to keep the defense off balance long enough to establish a running game. Might wanna try that?

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Buffalos oline is terrible but does seem to protect better then Dallas' oline.
Not so fast. Watch a buffalo game. Even the "mobile" quarterback is getting killed. Combined, Buffalo QB's have more sacks than Dallas, and suck infinitely more.
 

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We all talked about bledsoe's lack of pocket presence (not really feeling the pressure), the fact that he holds the ball too long and that he cant get out of his own way when the pocket is collapsing, we talked about this from the start of the season.

But the way the pocket collapses lately is just rediculous. He is getting killed back there. I agree Drew has his problems and some of the sacks are on him, but that doesnt change the fact that the protection is just not there.
 

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How good did Manning look yesterday with Chargers nailing him everytime he dropped back to pass and Edge getting stuff at the LOS?
 

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How good did Manning look yesterday with Chargers nailing him everytime he dropped back to pass and Edge getting stuff at the LOS?

And he still had the resemblance of a running game.

:hammer:
 

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We all talked about bledsoe's lack of pocket presence (not really feeling the pressure), the fact that he holds the ball too long and that he cant get out of his own way when the pocket is collapsing, we talked about this from the start of the season.

But the way the pocket collapses lately is just rediculous. He is getting killed back there. I agree Drew has his problems and some of the sacks are on him, but that doesnt change the fact that the protection is just not there.

Yesterday, that was true, in all seriousness. As much I do not like Bledsoe and his pat-pat routine when he gets pressure, the OL play was just attrocious yesterday.

But its curious, that everything breaks down as soon as, on the road, Bledsoe makes a mistake. At least past three road games has shown that tendency. It seems like whole team, at least on O side, just plays scared. Not to mention, the pathetic display of catching the ball by Terry Glenn. For first time Terry reminded me of Galloway.
 

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That is another issue, one WR couldnt get seperation from a 80 year old woman and the other one makes the amazing catches and misses way too many routine ones. This offense is in desperate need of a playmaker to help out Drew, the Oline and the defense.
 

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That is another issue, one WR couldnt get seperation from a 80 year old woman and the other one makes the amazing catches and misses way too many routine ones. This offense is in desperate need of a playmaker to help out Drew, the Oline and the defense.

Hasnt not getting seperation been one of the knocks on Key his whole carrer?
Whats funny is he makes huge plays 99% of the time with out seperation.
He isnt blocking or throwing. I take that back, hes one of the best blockers on this team.
 

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Dooms, im not even asking for superstar playmaker, just show me some stability or consistency, someone who leads by example and continues to perform when called on.

And yes Rcowbuyfan, ive noticed we struggle more on the road than at home. People keep saying the Offense plays scared, i dont know if that is the best way to put it, but they certainly are not comfortable or confident out there, and it does show more on the road than at home.
 

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I take that back, hes one of the best blockers on this team.

Yea he was really helpful to the passing game yesterday, so much so they kept him in to help pass protect. Its not like all his blocking skills are showing up in big runs for Barber or JJ. Hes a nice player but I dont think he should be a starter, I dont care how hard he tries or how much I like him we need an upgrade.
 

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Hasnt not getting seperation been one of the knocks on Key his whole carrer?
Whats funny is he makes huge plays 99% of the time with out seperation.
He isnt blocking or throwing. I take that back, hes one of the best blockers on this team.

When you're getting pressure, you need guys to be more open because you're hurrying the throws and you're not going to be as accurate. It's ok to "thread the needle" to a guy like Key when you've got time, but throwing it under duress to a guy that's blanketed is a good formula for picks IMO.
 

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Yea he was really helpful to the passing game yesterday, so much so they kept him in to help pass protect. Its not like all his blocking skills are showing up in big runs for Barber or JJ. Hes a nice player but I dont think he should be a starter, I dont care how hard he tries or how much I like him we need an upgrade.

It would be interesting to see how many times he was thrown to. His blocking skills shouldnt be springing our RBs. I cant think of a WR whos do.
 

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Cowchips said:
First, I am a big Bledsoe supporter but I do find it curious that it seems like whereever Bledsoe goes a bad oline follows.

New England's oline was terrible but good enough for Brady to lead them to a Superbowl.

Buffalos oline is terrible but does seem to protect better then Dallas' oline.

Dallas oline quality speaks for itself after yesterday.

I am sorry to say I may be giving up on the issue being factors other than Bledsoe. Although I still think he is a HOFr and is Dallas best option next year.

Bledsoe has been behind a banged up and underachieiving line all year. He's had NO running game to help keep defenses honest.

Come on now....Joe Montana would be getting killed behind this line.
 
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