Bledsoe or Roethlisberger?

[superpunk]

Jumping in the middle here...I should go back and read more before I post this...but what the heck.

I thought Bledsoe supporters were arguing last night that Bledsoe would have done better if he had a running game support...and offensive line support.

Now I'm reading that he had great runners in Martin, Magahee and Henry.

I'm confused.

That's not what I was addressing with that comment. Zaxor seems to think that Bledsoe's presence impacts the run game adversely. When, three times that has proved to not be the case, those runners actually enjoyed some of their greatest success playing with Bledsoe. All except Martin had the best years of their career, and it took Martin years to get back to the level he was at with Bledsoe.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Jumping in the middle here...I should go back and read more before I post this...but what the heck.

I thought Bledsoe supporters were arguing last night that Bledsoe would have done better if he had a running game support...and offensive line support.

Now I'm reading that he had great runners in Martin, Magahee and Henry.

I'm confused.

Exactly.

On one hand he (Bledsoe) has been dragged down to the depths of football hell by teammates that were more closely related in skill level to George Hegamin than they were Larry Allen...

On the other hand he's lifted many of these mere mortals to the equivalent of being "Football Gods".

 

[Juke99]

Exactly.

On one hand he (Bledsoe) has been dragged down to the depths of football hell by teammates that were more closely related in skill level to George Hegamin than they were Larry Allen...

On the other hand he's lifted many of these mere mortals to the equivalent of being "Football Gods".

Hey...you ain't called "Master of the Obvious" for no reason.



This is the "heads I win, tails you lose" argument.

Bledsoe raised the level of RB's....yet in Dallas Bledsoe didn't do as well as he could have because of the running game.

Gee, can you imagine how bad that running game would have been last year without Bledsoe???

 

[superpunk]

Can someone tell me who said that Bledsoe raised the level of play of other RBs?

Because I sure didn't say it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Hey...you ain't called "Master of the Obvious" for no reason.



This is the "heads I win, tails you lose" argument.

Bledsoe raised the level of RB's....yet in Dallas Bledsoe didn't do as well as he could have because of the running game.

Gee, can you imagine how bad that running game would have been last year without Bledsoe???

We would have had the equivelent running game of starting a 90 year old Eddie George and giving him the rock 30 times a game for a 2.2ypc average...

At least that's what the Drewpies have contended.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Can someone tell me who said that Bledsoe raised the level of play of other RBs?

Because I sure didn't say it.

So give us some proof on how you think Drew Bledsoe is the "key" at turning the Swirvin Curvin Richards of the world into an "Emmitt Smith"...

 

[superpunk]

So give us some proof on how you think Drew Bledsoe is the "key" at turning the Swirvin Curvin Richards of the world into an "Emmitt Smith"...

You're asking for the impossible, because that's not what I think. I explained it quite clearly already.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You're asking for the impossible, because that's not what I think. I explained it quite clearly already.

But you're "Superpunk"!

Nothing is impossible for you!

 

[Slyster]

Can someone tell me who said that Bledsoe raised the level of play of other RBs?

Because I sure didn't say it.

Thats how they work. They put words in your mouth so they will have something to say.

Travis Henry before Bledsoe - 729 yards on 213 attempts - 3.4 ypc - 4 TDs.

With Bledsoe - 1438 yards on 325 attempts - 4.4 ypc - 13 TDs ---- 1356 yards on 331 attempts - 4.1 ypc - 10 TDs.

Travis Henry is the backup for the Titans now.

Willis Mcgahee with Bledsoe - 1128 yads on 284 attempts - 4.0 ypc - 13 TDs. Also note that WM did not start every game that season.

Without Bledsoe - 1247 yards on 325 attempts - 3.8 ypc - 5 TDs. Slight increase in yards and a huge drop in TDs.

Might have been different with Dallas had JJ not gotten injured.

 

[superpunk]

But you're "Superpunk"!

Nothing is impossible for you!

That's completely true , but both you and Juke are implying I said something that I never said. That's my cryptonite.:

 

[iceberg]

Can someone tell me who said that Bledsoe raised the level of play of other RBs?

Because I sure didn't say it.

that was bledsoe4mvp and more of his "i can't back it up but i'll say it enough to where maybe people will believe it".

 

[rdsknsbaby]

i cant believe that there is even an argument about this. Big Ben is better.

 

[iceberg]

i cant believe that there is even an argument about this. Big Ben is better.

blind faith blinds.

like - how do you feel about taylor??? : )

 

[JIGGYFLY]

that was bledsoe4mvp and more of his "i can't back it up but i'll say it enough to where maybe people will believe it".

Remind you of a certain poster who is no longer allowed here

 

[Jarv]

That's completely true , but both you and Juke are implying I said something that I never said. That's my cryptonite.:

Watch out Bro, I hear Jimmy Olsen has a pocket full of it and is looking you up !

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

If you truly think that Curtis Martin's success as well as McGahee's and Travis Henry's were due to the "threat" posed by Bledsoe as QB?... I'm just in shock.

It's been well documented over the years how defensive coordinators around the NFL have spent hours and hours devising intricate schemes and formamations geared to shutting down bledsoe....what is real scary that even for being 'statuesque' he's posed that serious of a threat without a running game.

This isn't rocket science, but of course when you have the best arm in the game...capable of picking apart the best safeties and cornerbacks in the league with deadly accuracy and precision....you better have a way of stopping a QB like that! That's why guys like Bill Belichik are such geniuses...he knew enough about bledsoe to devise a defense truly capable of shutting him down...and used this same blueprint on peyton manning, albeit a watered down version.

 

[superpunk]

Watch out Bro, I hear Jimmy Olsen has a pocket full of it and is looking you up !

lol @ Jimmy Olsen....him and his helmet of hate...that's how I got the way I am now! The bastid....

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Hey...you ain't called "Master of the Obvious" for no reason.



This is the "heads I win, tails you lose" argument.

Bledsoe raised the level of RB's....yet in Dallas Bledsoe didn't do as well as he could have because of the running game.

Gee, can you imagine how bad that running game would have been last year without Bledsoe???

Can you imagine how bad this team would have been without him????

 

[jrumann59]

The sad part is the original idea of this post is who would have this year. I would take Bledsoe if we had an injury to a RB, I would take Ben if everyone was healthy. Ben hasn't proved to me he can throw vertically with much success. Ben is in a "west coast" type offense with heavy emphasis on the run drew has put up good numbers with mediocre running games. Yes I know Ben has more upside but right now if I had to put it on one or the other to out and out play like he was the only thing the team had I would take drew.

 

[Gibbs II]

Im glad slyster responded to my post proving that Drew isnt very clutch.