Bledsoe or Roethlisberger?

RCowboyFan said:
I agree. I can only add that the fan has to be Deaf and dumb adding to blind. The type of fan who rather have Peyton Manning than Tom Brady, since Peyton has tons of stats vs the wins like Brady/Aikman.
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give peyton the pats defense and see what he would do.
 
junk said:
Trent Green KC 4014 507 317 17 10 60 90.1
Eli Manning NYG 3762 557 294 24 17 78 75.9
Drew Bledsoe DAL 3639 499 300 23 17 71 83.7
Byron Leftwich JAC 2123 302 175 15 5 45 89.3

Manning is a 25 year old QB on the upswing. Bledsoe is a 34 year old on the downswing. Like I said, I am a Cowboys fan, not a Bledsoe fan. I'll take the guy that solidifies that position for the next 10 years or so.

Same story for Leftwich, although I don't think he is has as much upside as Manning. He's young and much more efficient than Bledsoe was last year despite missing time due to injury.

Green's numbers speak for themselves. Both he and Bledsoe are year to year propositions anyway.

Green's last four years:
16 16 470 287 61.1 3690 7.85 99 26 13 26/141 46 13 92.6
16 16 523 330 63.1 4039 7.72 67 24 12 20/130 54 8 92.6
16 16 556 369 66.4 4591 8.26 70 27 17 32/227 59 9 95.2
16 16 507 317 62.5 4014 7.92 60 17 10 32/204 51 11 90.1

Bledsoe's:
16 16 610 375 61.5 4359 7.15 73 24 15 54/369 45 13 86.0
16 16 471 274 58.2 2860 6.07 54 11 12 49/371 28 2 73.0
16 16 450 256 56.9 2932 6.52 69 20 16 37/215 31 9 76.6
16 16 499 300 60.1 3639 7.29 71 23 17 49/295 42 9 83.7

Green has been statistically dominant over Bledsoe. Bledsoe hasn't had a QB rating over 90 in his CAREER much less for 4 straight years.

Take off the Bledsoe blinders and see him for what he is. A slightly above average QB. He was a great signing for the price, but he hasn't really done anything in his career that makes me say "Wow".

Feel free to refute this with actual factual data, but I suspect you'll be unable to do more than plop down some laughing icons and make a comment about what a "stud" Bledsoe is. I have a sneaking suspicion that I am arguing with a 13 year old girl with the hots for Bledsoe, so I am sure I am wasting my time.
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Leftwich has been somewhat of a dissapointment so far, but is still young.....Manning (both of them) is so overrated its not even funny, yes I know he passed for 3700 yards last year....but he had Tiki Barber running wild and setting up the pass. When barber was shut down, Manning was exposed....and looked hideous (see the carolina playoff game for example). The kid might turn out to be decent, but he's no superstar in the making.

Speaking of having a running game, what do you call larry johnson and priest holmes...not to mention an offensive line with probowlers at virtually every position....Trent Green is a product of a system, and it still has only been good enough for one playoff birth in KC, and an early exit.

I'm not a 13 year old girl, I'm a young adult dude....and the term 'stud' is in reference to him being a superstar on the field....you have never heard anybody call a great player a stud before???:confused:
 
jrumann59 said:
Bledsoe also hasn't had the running backs Green has had or the receivers green had in StL
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Drew has done so much with so little his entire career, it's been his trademark.....but finally it's looking like he has most of the pieces in place so he don't have to carry a team on his shoulders anymore.

I smell a world title.....:cool:
 
Bledsoe4MVP said:
Yes I would take Drew over anybody but the man that replaced him in New England. Tom Brady is the real deal, as much as it hurts to admit it. :cool:
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I'll tell you what...Want to bet ?

Lets do a poll on the message board of your choice.

Bledsoe vs. Peyton Manning and/or MacFlab.....Who is better...Since you already admitted Brady...There are probably other QB's playing now that would also make you lose the bet.

Put your money where your mouth is...

The bet is avatar and sig line for one week.

I'll bet you won't have the guts to even take the bet.

Anybody else with me on this ? Takers from all sides let me know.
 
Jarv said:
I'll tell you what...Want to bet ?

Lets do a poll on the message board of your choice.

Bledsoe vs. Peyton Manning and MacFlab.....Who is better...Since you already admitted Brady...There are probably other QB's playing now that would also make you lose the bet.

Put your money where your mouth is...

The bet is avatar and sig line for one week.

I'll bet you won't have the guts to even take the bet.

Anybody else with me on this ? Takers from all sides let me know.
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Nobody really likes me on this message board since I tell it like it is, some people even think i'm a troll ....so they would all likely vote against Bledsoe, no matter what QB you put him against.

I could go into an in depth discussion comparing Peyton Manning to Bledsoe, but I'll save that for another day:cool:
 
Jarv said:
Ok, you oh me a beer...that just splatered over my monitor when I read that statement and burst out laughing.

That puts him in the top 1% of the QB's playing now...So that means he's the 2nd best QB playing now....

So which one is better ? Brady obiviously took his job...So outside of Brady, Bledsoe is the best ? You have to be his agent or something.
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You have to figure in the romance factor Jarv... there is obviously some serious man-love in this forum for Bledsoe. I honestly can't figure it out. The guy was the 15th ranked starter in the NFL this year. He's OK... nothing more, nothing less.

It's been years since he's been on a playoff team and even more since he's personally led one to the playoffs.

That's telling in my book.
 
Bledsoe4MVP said:
Nobody really likes me on this message board since I tell it like it is, some people even think i'm a troll ....so they would all likely vote against Bledsoe, no matter what QB you put him against.

I could go into an in depth discussion comparing Peyton Manning to Bledsoe, but I'll save that for another day:cool:
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He said message board of "your choice" not this message board.
 
Bledsoe4MVP said:
Nobody really likes me on this message board since I tell it like it is, some people even think i'm a troll ....so they would all likely vote against Bledsoe, no matter what QB you put him against.

I could go into an in depth discussion comparing Peyton Manning to Bledsoe, but I'll save that for another day:cool:
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a simple "no thanks i'm an all talk loser" will be sufficient.
 
Bledsoe4MVP said:
Nobody really likes me on this message board since I tell it like it is, some people even think i'm a troll ....so they would all likely vote against Bledsoe, no matter what QB you put him against.

I could go into an in depth discussion comparing Peyton Manning to Bledsoe, but I'll save that for another day:cool:
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Don't worry, we don't even have to mention your name at all. We could get a 3rd party person to start the poll.

I stated any message board of your choice. Independant of either of us just the facts.

Are you ready ? Should be fun, don't you think ?
 
iceberg said:
a simple "no thanks i'm an all talk loser" will be sufficient.
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jrumann59 said:
Bledsoe also hasn't had the running backs Green has had or the receivers green had in StL
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It's always what Bledsoe doesn't have...


Well if I had Troy Aikman's brain, Peyton Manning's arm, Marino's release and could run like Michael Vick I'd be an NLF QB...

Give me a frickin break.
 
Jarv said:
Don't worry, we don't even have to mention your name at all. We could get a 3rd party person to start the poll.

I stated any message board of your choice. Independant of either of us just the facts.

Are you ready ? Should be fun, don't you think ?
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Seriously what is the point, of course a majority of sheep would take manning or any other overrated bum over bledsoe. He's younger and supposedly better in all facets of the game. :confused:

Also if I really wanted to I could gather my minions and instruct them to vote for Drew on whatever message board we choose. I also know some other undesirable trolls that I could call upon to do my bidding if need be...
 
Bledsoe4MVP said:
Seriously what is the point, of course a majority of sheep would take manning or any other overrated bum over bledsoe. He's younger and supposedly better in all facets of the game. :confused:

Also if I really wanted to I could gather my minions and instruct them to vote for Drew on whatever message board we choose. I also know some other undesirable trolls that I could call upon to do my bidding if need be...
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don't your parents have anything better to do?
 
Big Ben 2004 #5 rated passer 98.1 rating.
2005 #3 rated passer 98.6 rating.

Bledsoe 2004 #25 rated passer 76.6 rating.
2005 #17 rated passer 83.7 rating.

If you think Bledsoe is still better please line up for the short bus... you've more than qualified...
 
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