Bledsoe

[Pats Fan]

I thought Tin Men didn't have hearts.

This makes no sense. OK, if it works for you.

But after watching this game for almost 50 years, heart has everything to do with it. You have it, or you do not. Brady has it, Pennington has it, and actually so does Romo.

So, a little nasty comment does not change one single thing. Sorry.

 

[joseephuss]

Ah, Bledsoe a subject near and dear to my heart.

Bledsoe had so much talent, over the top talent, what he lacked was HEART. He just wanted to go back to his home and stare into space. But even without heart, he did OK. I was so glad when he was gone.

Rule #1, Parcells likes old players that he knows.

Rule #2 Parcells is a kick a** coach and that only works for a few years.

Rule # 3 Without the coaching talent around him, Parcells is not who we think he is.

Oh, and Pennington is a great (well, very good) QB. He just played for the wrong team. He may not have the arm talent, but he has the ultimate heart. Until the RAT went to the Jets I used to like the Jets because of Pennington. I am thinking he may go to NE as the backup.

Why is Brady so good, HEART, and just enough talent to make it super. Fight, fight, I will not lose.

Bledsoe did not have over the top talent. He had a strong arm. That was his talent. He could sling it very far and hard with very little effort. Outside of that he was not very talented except maybe his height. He was not accurate, he could not move, he had little pocket presence and he made poor decisions.

Brady has way more talent than Bledsoe. He just doesn't have that superb arm strength.

 

[Rampage]

This makes no sense. OK, if it works for you.

But after watching this game for almost 50 years, heart has everything to do with it. You have it, or you do not. Brady has it, Pennington has it, and actually so does Romo.

So, a little nasty comment does not change one single thing. Sorry.

yeah but talent factors in which pennington has none left. you won't win throwing 5 yard outs that float like crazy all the time. their's a ton of highschool qb's who have a stronger arm than chad.

 

[Sarge]

Why is Skip Bayless still employed is the real question.

 

[zeromaster]

Oh lord. People act as if we were a terrible team under Bledsoe. We weren't. Too much of Bledsoe's performance in 06 is remembered as indicative his tenure here. He had a very good season in 2005, if not for Petiti and Tucker at tackle, who knows how far he could have taken Dallas?

Maybe you enjoyed that 9-7 season and losing 4 of the last 6. I didn't.

That is all.

 

[Pats Fan]

Bledsoe did not have over the top talent. He had a strong arm. That was his talent. He could sling it very far and hard with very little effort. Outside of that he was not very talented except maybe his height. He was not accurate, he could not move, he had little pocket presence and he made poor decisions.

Brady has way more talent than Bledsoe. He just doesn't have that superb arm strength.

This is where I think you are wrong. When you have that kind of talent, you work on it. You work on the things where you think you may not have the talent you should have. When your head is somewhere else, you don't do it. Brady is who he is because he WORKED at it. Made himself better.

It is all about heart. Bledsoe simply did not have it. So, he may not even make the HOF even though his talent was over the top. The things you saw, well, it is all about, I just want to go home to my family. He could have fought, done better, I am sure of it. Fran Tarkenton. Another example.

Pennington, the response from the prior post, ultimate heart, not much over the top talent, just heart. I like the guy. Actually, really like the guy, he would have been a star in NE.

 

[Pats Fan]

Sorry, I read my post.

Tarkenton, a guy with great heart. That is what I meant to say. I just loved to watch that guy play football.

Montana, another guy. Heart.

Look at your own QB. Talent, well average. Heart, yep. And that is what makes the difference. Same in life.

 

[bbgun]

50 sacks, minimum.

 

[joseephuss]

This is where I think you are wrong. When you have that kind of talent, you work on it. You work on the things where you think you may not have the talent you should have. When your head is somewhere else, you don't do it. Brady is who he is because he WORKED at it. Made himself better.

It is all about heart. Bledsoe simply did not have it. So, he may not even make the HOF even though his talent was over the top. The things you saw, well, it is all about, I just want to go home to my family. He could have fought, done better, I am sure of it. Fran Tarkenton. Another example.

Pennington, the response from the prior post, ultimate heart, not much over the top talent, just heart. I like the guy. Actually, really like the guy, he would have been a star in NE.

Nope I am not wrong. I just see it differently than you. I think heart is a talent. Some guys have it some guys don't. Michael Jordan had heart and he also had talent. He could run fast and he could jump high, yet he worked as hard as anyone to improve his game.

Brady does have heart and works hard to become great. He also has talent. He has a good arm. Not super strong, but it is not weak. He has good feet in the pocket. Part of that is because of hard work, but part of it is talent. He has good vision. Talent is not limited to just having a strong arm.

 

[windward]

Maybe you enjoyed that 9-7 season and losing 4 of the last 6. I didn't.

That is all.

And is that Bledsoe's fault? You implied that it is.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think they draft a QB this year as well.

in addition to the high 2nd round QB from 2007? Doubt it.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I think Chad Pennington will be Miami's QB next year as a bridge. Parcells will draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round and let him compete with Beck for the "chosen one" status. I don't see him just handing the job to Beck because the last regime drafted him high without competition. Pennington would actually be a very good mentor to Beck. They have similar traits.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

This makes no sense. OK, if it works for you.

But after watching this game for almost 50 years, heart has everything to do with it. You have it, or you do not. Brady has it, Pennington has it, and actually so does Romo.

So, a little nasty comment does not change one single thing. Sorry.

He looks like a Robot out there; it's all business to him. I'm not saying that he isn't great, but Mr. Personality has to have emotions to have heart.

 

[Pats Fan]

Nope I am not wrong. I just see it differently than you. I think heart is a talent. Some guys have it some guys don't. Michael Jordan had heart and he also had talent. He could run fast and he could jump high, yet he worked as hard as anyone to improve his game.

Brady does have heart and works hard to become great. He also has talent. He has a good arm. Not super strong, but it is not weak. He has good feet in the pocket. Part of that is because of hard work, but part of it is talent. He has good vision. Talent is not limited to just having a strong arm.

OK, I am just about done for the evening -- off -- but I would like to say a few things. First off, we agree heart has a lot to do with winning. Brady has it, Romo has it, Peyton has it, plus no time to name the rest.

Bledsoe had more than just a strong arm. I watched this guy play for a number of years and when he got his "head into it" we would win. That being said, as I have already said, I had the biggest smile on my face when he went to Buffalo. He is what he is. NOT a great QB, always just a bit short when bringing you to the BIG game, no heart, no guts. OK, now he is happy, home with his family. I really do not think he will make the HOF, and I do not think Parcells will bring him in. Just my feeling.

As far as Brady, it really is his hard work and heart that has made him who he is. I'm sorry, I am a Pats fan and I just love the guy. Grogan was my favorite QB until Brady came along.

Heart, well yes. Durable, well yes. Fight you until the end, well yes. Smart, well yes. A leader, well yes. And a learned talent, well yes. Bottom line, every team has to get lucky every once in a while. Me, I love every single solitary second Brady is our QB. Oh, and after the bums you have had as QB's, you should think the same of Romo -- but, sorry, he is no Brady.

And I stand by my statement, Pennington is a very good QB.

 

[Pats Fan]

I just have to say one more thing.

Jordan should not be mentioned in this discussion. I don't like basketball, never watched the game. But one night I watched Jordan and company play and I became a fan overnight. I just could not believe what I was watching. I watched every game I could see. He was SUPER.

Jordan was just the purest of talents that ever existed. No words. Just an extreme talent. Enough to take a non-basketball fan to a major fan. And a Chicago team, the guys that destroyed us in the SB.

Jordan is an exception. And regardless of heart, he had the best talent that ever set foot on a basketball court.

 

[Hostile]

OK, I am just about done for the evening -- off -- but I would like to say a few things. First off, we agree heart has a lot to do with winning. Brady has it, Romo has it, Peyton has it, plus no time to name the rest.

Bledsoe had more than just a strong arm. I watched this guy play for a number of years and when he got his "head into it" we would win. That being said, as I have already said, I had the biggest smile on my face when he went to Buffalo. He is what he is. NOT a great QB, always just a bit short when bringing you to the BIG game, no heart, no guts. OK, now he is happy, home with his family. I really do not think he will make the HOF, and I do not think Parcells will bring him in. Just my feeling.

As far as Brady, it really is his hard work and heart that has made him who he is. I'm sorry, I am a Pats fan and I just love the guy. Grogan was my favorite QB until Brady came along.

Heart, well yes. Durable, well yes. Fight you until the end, well yes. Smart, well yes. A leader, well yes. And a learned talent, well yes. Bottom line, every team has to get lucky every once in a while. Me, I love every single solitary second Brady is our QB. Oh, and after the bums you have had as QB's, you should think the same of Romo -- but, sorry, he is no Brady.

And I stand by my statement, Pennington is a very good QB.

The essence of no heart is the statement in bold.

 

[Nors]

That is the name I keep hearing.

The Dolphins would go 0-16 with Bledsoe.

You are dead wrong there - Bledsoe would instantly make that team a 4-6 game winner -- lol

He's Retired for good.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Why is Skip Bayless still employed is the real question.

Because he has all the ESPN qualifications which is just being a moron!

 

[Nors]

Nope I am not wrong. I just see it differently than you. I think heart is a talent. Some guys have it some guys don't. Michael Jordan had heart and he also had talent. He could run fast and he could jump high, yet he worked as hard as anyone to improve his game.

Brady does have heart and works hard to become great. He also has talent. He has a good arm. Not super strong, but it is not weak. He has good feet in the pocket. Part of that is because of hard work, but part of it is talent. He has good vision. Talent is not limited to just having a strong arm.

I saw Bledsoe play in person and gut out epic come from behind wins in the cold and in tough situations. He had a HUGE Heart. He never shied away from contact and in fact would recklessly go in head first. What we saw in Bledsoe late in career was a QB that had taken a beating for a decade.

Also the comment in this thread about Bledsoe not being accurate is laughable. Other than Aikman I don't know of a more accurate passer. Especially downfield. Bledsoe's issue was trying to force it into tight spots because his arm was so strong......

It was not a lack of Heart but a mentally beat down older QB that struggled some. That all said he was putting up 28 points a game with us in 2006. He bridged us to Romo and we had a winning record here, that 2004 team he took over sucked.

Just because you are a shade below Hall of Famer does not mean you totally suck. He threw for 45,000 yards and 250+TD's. #1 overall pick that started day 1 at age 20 in the NFL. Too boot he probably earned $200 Million in contracts.

It's silly those that feel a need to put him down - jmo

 

[sago1]

Many put down Bledsoe but I'm not one of them. I read where Sean Payton believed Romo should have been the starter in 2005 but he was overruled and Bledsoe was brought in. Now Bledsoe did a good job for us in 2005 and had some really good games and was indeed a very accurate passer. Don't know how well Romo would have done in 2005 if Payton had won that battle but it doesn't matter now.

Anyway the Bledsoe I saw in 2005 and the one on the field in 2006 was very different. Starting in the first game, it just seemed to me that Bledsoe had lost some of his accuracy. He was missing those open WRs in almost all of the games he started in 2006 (a far cry from his 2005 play) and I believe that's exactly what Parcells also saw. So yes Bledsoe was the accurate passer in his last season that he had been earlier; he was indeed a top NFL passer for many years while in NE.