Bledsoe's Blunders have stabbed this team in the heart...

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Anyone who understands the NFL knows that the most fundamental rule is: the game is won and lost at the lines. For years I've watched Drew get blindsided and there are always those who blame him, but I don't. A good team never lets anyone touch the Quarterback. If that's happening, the team has no claim to being payoff caliber, no matter who the QB is. In games like yesterday Drew hardly throws for any yards (17 in first half). And the bashers say he's always been that bad. Funny that he averages 232 yards per game in his career, behind only Marino and Manning in ypg.
 

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Dogstar said:
And how is the Buffalo Bill Board lately? You come all the way over here just to deride Bledsoe? That's some chip on your shoulder!

As bad as I felt for Losman losing that game yesterday, thank god he did or imagine what the Bills fans would be saying.
 

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big_neil said:
Anyone who understands the NFL knows that the most fundamental rule is: the game is won and lost at the lines. For years I've watched Drew get blindsided and there are always those who blame him, but I don't. A good team never lets anyone touch the Quarterback. If that's happening, the team has no claim to being payoff caliber, no matter who the QB is. In games like yesterday Drew hardly throws for any yards (17 in first half). And the bashers say he's always been that bad. Funny that he averages 232 yards per game in his career, behind only Marino and Manning in ypg.

So Bledsoe has NEVER had a good line? Maybe its something he does that reflects poorly on the OL. Like stand in the pocket forever and pat the ball? Always look for the deep read?

Bledsoe played lights out to start the season, but we are starting to see some of the things that were widely reported as knocks on the guy.
 

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Well..whether you like Bledsoe or not, he is virtually tied statistically with Brady, Manning and others. Brady tossed 4 int's last week. Manning tossed 4 the week before. Any QB will have his bad weeks. Get over yourselves and support him. He's as good as most of the leagues top tier qbs.
 

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Chocolate Lab said:
Bledsoe hasn't been terrible all year. There's no doubt that he's helped us win some games as well.

My question is, at what point would Parcells actually believe that Bledsoe isn't good enough to win a Super Bowl? If he played like he did yesterday for the rest of the year? If he played like that in the next big game? Or can that point even be reached with Parcells?

No he hasn't. It's that he is terrible against any team that plays half-way decent defense. If the other team can rush the passer or stop the run, he's terrible, otherwise he's great.
 

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I still put the blame on the OL. Bledsoe was so much betterwhen he had a real LT flozell. Tucker and Petitti are nothing more than stopgaps and depth imo.
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
I sure would hate to see what position the Cowboys would be in today WITHOUT Bledsoe? He is the very least of our problems.......re-run the tape objectively and I believe you will notice some very bad OL play!

Objectively, we'd be better with Brad Johnson, Matt Hassellbeck, Mark Brunell, Jake Delhomme or half a dozen other non-star NFL qb's and yes even Quincy Carter wouldn't make as many bad decisions or throws as Bledsoe's Blunders have shown.
 

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big_neil said:
A good team never lets anyone touch the Quarterback.

Pass the bong man, that must be some good stuff you got there.
 

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abersonc said:
You a right we'd never be 7-5 without Drew. We'd be 2-10.

Drew is a good player. Like any player he will make mistakes.

Fans who don't understand the game tend to focus only on the high profile players and their glaring mistakes. While ignoring mistakes by other players that aren't as obvious. Like the complete whiff by Gurode that lead to the 3rd quarter fumble.

A lot of people here blamed Carter in 2003 when we had no pass rush, a weak secondary, no feature RB and one consistent Wr in Glenn. Bryant and Galloway dropped 16 passes between them. If Carter was here making the same mistakes as Bledsoe, you'd be saying that he will never figure it out and we need a qb upgrade. Well Carter's gone and we've upgraded every position and it all boils down to poor qb play by Bledsoe. Adam Schein of Fox sports said Friday that Bledsoe's inconsistent play will hold this team back and it's what I've been saying all year. I think Schein and I both have been vindicated. I promised earlier this year that if Bledsoe proved me wrong I would apoligize for my negativity, but since we need to win 3 of our next four just to equal our win total of 2003, I don't think I'll need to make that apoligy.
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
Bledsoe is an upgrade over what we've had the last couple of years no doubt.

But it is painfully obvious we will be nothing but an "also-ran" as long as Bledsoe is our QB. He is what he is and he will never improve his obvious weaknesses.

The single most disappointing thing about our franchise to me over the last several years is our total inability to draft and develop a young, talented QB that this franchise can build upon.

Check out the playoffs next month and you will once again see that the teams with good young signal callers are the best teams in the league. See Indy, Cincy, Pittsburgh, New England, Jacksonville, NY Giants, etc. It happens year after year after year after year...

No he's not an upgrade. He's had a better supporting cast than either Vinny or Carter and still not getting it done. Take off the blinders, he hasn't been any good in years, that's why we got him so easily.
 

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kartr said:
Objectively, we'd be better with Brad Johnson, Matt Hassellbeck, Mark Brunell, Jake Delhomme or half a dozen other non-star NFL qb's and yes even Quincy Carter wouldn't make as many bad decisions or throws as Bledsoe's Blunders have shown.

Did you watch how many bad decisions that Quincy made in Dallas? How about his decision to whine and pout when Dallas traded for Henson and Testaverde? That was the worse one. Instead of just working harder and going out there he could beat out a guy that hadn't played in 3 years and another who just sucked, Quincy decided it was better to go into a shell. Great decision.

Delhomme makes a few bad decisions and throws every game. Watch and you will see him just float balls out there to be picked. Brad Johson, Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Brunell really haven't done that much against the Giants this year either. Put them behind yesterday's line and they come out looking exactly like Bledsoe.
 

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Get off the QC love please...the only time you show up is if the offense looks bad and we lose so you can spout some QC crap.
 

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I'll give you Brunell for a Ham Sandwich and a backup DT.

I'd rather start Jason Campbell right now.

Not me.

Campbell needs to learn first IMO.
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
Bledsoe is an upgrade over what we've had the last couple of years no doubt.

But it is painfully obvious we will be nothing but an "also-ran" as long as Bledsoe is our QB. He is what he is and he will never improve his obvious weaknesses.

The single most disappointing thing about our franchise to me over the last several years is our total inability to draft and develop a young, talented QB that this franchise can build upon.

Check out the playoffs next month and you will once again see that the teams with good young signal callers are the best teams in the league. See Indy, Cincy, Pittsburgh, New England, Jacksonville, NY Giants, etc. It happens year after year after year after year...

I will disagree with one point in your post, the single most disappointing thing to me over the past few years is the inability to run for a first down on 3rd and 1.
 

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Hoov said:
I will disagree with one point in your post, the single most disappointing thing to me over the past few years is the inability to run for a first down on 3rd and 1.


I probably agree with this. A ball control team who predicates everything off the running game should be able to fall forward for a yard at the very least. Bledsoe is a 6-5, 240 lb. QB who's biggest asset is his durablility. How can you not be able to get a yard with the division on the line?
 

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A lot of people here blamed Carter in 2003 when we had no pass rush, a weak secondary, no feature RB and one consistent Wr in Glenn. Bryant and Galloway dropped 16 passes between them. If Carter was here making the same mistakes as Bledsoe, you'd be saying that he will never figure it out and we need a qb upgrade. Well Carter's gone and we've upgraded every position and it all boils down to poor qb play by Bledsoe. Adam Schein of Fox sports said Friday that Bledsoe's inconsistent play will hold this team back and it's what I've been saying all year. I think Schein and I both have been vindicated. I promised earlier this year that if Bledsoe proved me wrong I would apoligize for my negativity, but since we need to win 3 of our next four just to equal our win total of 2003, I don't think I'll need to make that apoligy.

Is Tucker better than Adams? No.

Is Pettiti better than Young? No, but that is close. I would say that Parcells trusted Young more than Pettiti. That changes the offensive philosophy.

Guards and center are a wash. So Bledsoe right now does not have the better talent. The offensive line is the most important part of the game. Without that, it doesn't matter who you have on the outside or running the ball. Julius is much better than Hambrick, but playing behind this line, he has less chances at success than Troy. Put Hambrick back there and he would average at least 1/2 yard less than Julius.

Bryant and Galloway are good receivers. They aren't here for other reasons, but talent isn't one of them. It is about trust and fitting the coaches system.

Weak secondary in 2003? Glenn, Williams and Woodson were not weak. Try againg. And what would that have to do with Quincy anyway?
 

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It's so nice to know there are so many great fans ready to toss Bledsoe out the door after a bad game. Since Manning played worse I guess he should go too? If someone told me at the beginning of the year that going into week 13 Bledsoe would be the #2 rated QB in the NFC I would have jumped up and down. Yes he had a bad game and has had some bad picks this year. He has also made plenty of big plays this year. We are 7-5 and in the playoff race. Most experts thought we'd be a .500 team or worse this year with all the young guys on D. Bledsoe is not our problem. As a lot of smart people have already pointed out, our current woes can be pointed drirectly to our porous line play.
 

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NJCowboy said:
- Horrendous, vomit inducing Game Losing Pick Against Seattle that made ZERO sense to throw the Football - the most asinine play call and pass I've seen in years.

- Horrendous , vomit inducing , Uncalled for Pick placed into Champ Bailey's chest for 6 ...Disgusting - Disgraceful.

- Slow - lumbering , stupified missed handoff to JJ - I watched the replay and Drew never looked back to realize Clancy jumped the snap - if he had he gets it off. Drew is never aware of his surroundings - He gets locked in and cannot improvise - I.E. Witten was wide open on the sideline with under a minute to play and he took a sack - I.E. 3 and 1 playaction terrible toss to Glenn - Sean Ryan was wide open with 20 -40 yds to gain ...


Drew Bledsoe is a joke...he's a lumbering stiff...He has ZERO intensity, I bet he woke up today and watched Good Morning America and didn't think twice about the loss.

We need a Competitor at the position we need a guy who can move a bit when things break down.

This is the real Bledsoe

We had somebody that could move around in Quincy Carter, a playoff Quarterback I might add... Quincy was a winner, he didn't really get the stats but he just knew how to win a game... The Panthers for example.. We was losing by two score... Quincy brung the Cowboys back to win the game with a game winning Touchdown catch by Antonio Bryant...

Parcells has ripped the Cowboys... Cause the Antonio Bryant trade was just a release of Antonio Bryant to another team, because we do not have Quincy Morgan, Pittsburgh Steelers receiver, and Antonio Bryant is peforming better than Brylon Edwards, because Edwards been hurt...

Cowboys does not really have a number one (1) receiver... Why?

Terry Glenn:: A wide receiver that have hard times handling double coverage, is very consistent in one on one coverage but not two on one..

Santana Moss just caught a pass on two guys from st. louis Rams... I know st. louis secondary is just diminish, but it is just the point of being double covered with Glenn, it's hard to do that with Bledsoe under thrown and over thrown passes, either it's glenn or bledsoe..

Keyshawn Johnson:: Inconsistent only thing he consistent at is catching Touchdowns when you are at the ten (10) or (20) yard line....

Patrick Crayton:: He just coming off an injury, really not looking to well, he doesn't really catch well right now, needs to catch up... but still he's not a number one wide receiver... He showed alot of flashes earlier this season against San Deigo and other teams...

Terrence Cooper:: No Comment

So this brings me to the next point... Jimmy Johnson is real high on T.O. because he mention that T.O. was like Michael Irvin with the attitude wanting to win, and he like that attitude,but at the same time he mention the team have great respect for him and really want him on the team, and feel that is the leader that could step up and be the ticket to the playoffs...

Im hoping after this season is over, whether we win the super bowl and win or go to the playoffs or any senario that Parcells retires, Cowboys get T.O., and Terry Glenn retire...

Wanstead as the D. Cordinator... The way Norv Turner looking at Oakland, have Norv as the O. Cordinator....Everybody wants Zimmer gone... and Payton...
 

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The problem is that he combines Vinny's mobility with Hutch's pocket awareness. He fumbles A LOT, whether by hit or lost snap.
 

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no QB is gonna succeed behind the kinda effort the O-line is giving lately.

we knew mobility wasn't Bledsoe's strength when he was signed and we ALL agreed he'd have to have decent protection to have any chance. for a while he got it and was succeeding - almost spectacularly. now the protection has vaporized and he is failing - along with the rest of the offense.

i know what i've seen this year and i wasn't one of bledsoe's initial supporters. but he played well enough to win me over. give him any protection and he will win games for you. he's far less the problem than the O-line. ask julius jones. ask marion barber. ask jason witten - one of the league's best weapons and who is constantly held in to babysit a porous line (kinda like roy was asked to babysit a porous secondary last season - preventing one of our best players from doing what he does best and lessening his ability to positively impact the game).

by now, even the O-line itself is aware they suck.
 
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