Bledsoe's last 7 games

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pretty freaking ugly...and I've been a big Bledsoe supporter...but its bad:

131/241 54.4 comp %, 10 tds, 13 ints, sacked 28 times (4 of the 7 games have QB ratings of 36.9, 42.0, 53.5 and 45.8)

thats not the sort of trend you want to see

David
 

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The scary thing is he usually starts a season pretty strong, then has a reputation for fading down the stretch, but this season he has started off poorly. On the bright side, maybe he's flipping the script and will get better as the season progresses instead of getting worse.
 

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I personally think that time is running out for Mr. Bledsoe. I hope not, but deep down I think it is.
 

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In his defense, 6 of those 7 games had Tucker and Pettiti playing Turnstile, er Tackle. Surprised you didn't include fumbles, since that's always been a sore spot for Bledsoe.
 

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dbair1967 said:
pretty freaking ugly...and I've been a big Bledsoe supporter...but its bad:

131/241 54.4 comp %, 10 tds, 13 ints, sacked 28 times (4 of the 7 games have QB ratings of 36.9, 42.0, 53.5 and 45.8)

thats not the sort of trend you want to see

David

There's no question Bledsoe is facing the biggest challenge of his career the next few weeks. IMO his entire career is on the line, the cowboys organization knows it, Parcells knows, the fans know it, and most importantly he knows it.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt for week 1, we opened against a legit contender (especially if they beat the steelers this week) and our defense wasn't exactly impressive either. But if Bledsoe plays bad again this week (even if we squeak out a win) then there's no question things will intensify during the bye week.

Despite all this I still believe he is our best option right now, I just can't see Romo coming in and doing anything this season especially because he would have to take his lumps as a first year starter.
 

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dbair1967 said:
pretty freaking ugly...and I've been a big Bledsoe supporter...but its bad:

131/241 54.4 comp %, 10 tds, 13 ints, sacked 28 times (4 of the 7 games have QB ratings of 36.9, 42.0, 53.5 and 45.8)

thats not the sort of trend you want to see

David


Yeah, but for several of those games it was clearly the OL That STANK. Washington and STL you can't really blame on him at all - you'd be hard pressed to find any QB who could do squat with the lame blocking he was getting in those games.

You also fail to mention that there was a game with a 126 rating and a 90.7 in there.
 

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Yeah, but for several of those games it was clearly the OL That STANK. Washington and STL you can't really blame on him at all - you'd be hard pressed to find any QB who could do squat with the lame blocking he was getting in those games.

You also fail to mention that there was a game with a 126 rating and a 90.7 in there.

2 of those games were also against teams that won 10 or more games in 2005....the chiefs would have been a playoff team if they played in the NFC and the Panthers were the NFC runner up and we won in their house late in the season and Bledsoe was clutch in the 4th quarter of both games....funny nobody seems to remember this though?
 

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SloppyOctopuss said:
2 of those games were also against teams that won 10 or more games in 2005....the chiefs would have been a playoff team if they played in the NFC and the Panthers were the NFC runner up and we won in their house late in the season and Bledsoe was clutch in the 4th quarter of both games....funny nobody seems to remember this though?

Of course not, that doesn't help the spin of the argument. And actually, out of his last 7 games, 6 of them were against teams that won 10 or more games in 2005... the Jags, Panthers, Chiefs, Commanders, Broncos, Giants. The only team that didn't win 10 games in 2005 was the Rams.
 

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Boyzmamacita said:
The scary thing is he usually starts a season pretty strong, then has a reputation for fading down the stretch, but this season he has started off poorly. On the bright side, maybe he's flipping the script and will get better as the season progresses instead of getting worse.


That's exactly right.

I once dated this girl. Her family were huge Bills fans. I would dare to say that these people are as dedicated and hardcore in the aspect of the levels in which they take it to in order to be "a fan". I mean, I give it up for these people. They're freaking nuts!

And some of them have it out bad for Bledsoe's choking.

I'm willing to give him a second chance, but if game after game, time after time, he keeps 'giving it up', as a Yankee might say, "to these Nancy teams". . .

It is a scary thought.


Bledsoe choking away this year's team's chances make for a nightmare, indeed.

However, I'm going to stay calm for the next few games. I've seen his talent before; and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt before I start calling for Kurt Warner Jr., aka, Tony Romo.

I like Bledsoe's gun; and I like the way the line was moving, actually. The draw plays set up things and produced. The passing game was on ... other than Bledsoe throwing the ball to the other team; and our overall potential looked good.

I'm not going to say anything to jinx the team, but if something happened right now, like a temporary injury to Bledsoe in the Commanders game ... and Tony Romo came in to win 3 of 4 games, I could see Parcells sticking with Romo.

But as I tighten my space helmet and descend back towards earth, I'm going to embrace Drew Bledsoe as a Dallas Cowboys; and the starter of this football team.

Quarterbacks have bad games

It can happen to anyone; on any given Sunday ....

I hope our focus is geared up for the Commanders. It's the division games that matter the most.
 

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Of course not, that doesn't help the spin of the argument. And actually, out of his last 7 games, 6 of them were against teams that won 10 or more games in 2005... the Jags, Panthers, Chiefs, Commanders, Broncos, Giants. The only team that didn't win 10 games in 2005 was the Rams.


So what? He should only perform well against cupcakes? At what point do WE become a good team? I just don't understand what mistakes Romo mistakes that Bledsoe isn't currently making. Bledsoe has played like a rookie over this span. What is the attraction to this man? I don't get it.
 

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So what? He should only perform well against cupcakes? At what point do WE become a good team? I just don't understand what mistakes Romo mistakes that Bledsoe isn't currently making. Bledsoe has played like a rookie over this span. What is the attraction to this man? I don't get it.
The point is I don't care how good you are, you're not going to be All Pro against that kind of schedule. I also have no misconceptions about the kind of QB Bledsoe is. He's a bus driver.

But you can't just pick and choose what games you look at to determine if Bledsoe can still get the job done and throw out some stats without taking a look at other factors that may have led to those stats. If you place too much emphasis on stats, you'll get burned. And if you place too much emphasis on stats, you may end up convincing yourself that Romo is the better option right now because he had better preseason stats than Bledsoe had in his first game.

The bottom line is you haven't seen Romo in a real regular season game. You have no idea what kind of mistakes he'll make, or how they compare to the mistakes Bledsoe is making. If you think his preseason stats are what you're gonna see when he starts in a regular season games, and/or that he's not going to make mistakes or go through some growing pains, then you're pretty naive.
 

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dbair1967 said:
pretty freaking ugly...and I've been a big Bledsoe supporter...but its bad:

131/241 54.4 comp %, 10 tds, 13 ints, sacked 28 times (4 of the 7 games have QB ratings of 36.9, 42.0, 53.5 and 45.8)

thats not the sort of trend you want to see

David


None of that is surprising considering the protection he's been getting (especially last year).

Not many QBs would be putting up good numbers with that kind of protection.
 

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[quote The bottom line is you haven't seen Romo in a real regular season game. You have no idea what kind of mistakes he'll make, or how they compare to the mistakes Bledsoe is making. quote]

Good point. Lets put him in for the rest of the season and compare.
 

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[quote The bottom line is you haven't seen Romo in a real regular season game. You have no idea what kind of mistakes he'll make, or how they compare to the mistakes Bledsoe is making. quote]

Good point. Lets put him in for the rest of the season and compare.

If you want to 7-9 with Romo than be my guest....Bledsoe is our best chance period.
 

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Yeah, but for several of those games it was clearly the OL That STANK. Washington and STL you can't really blame on him at all - you'd be hard pressed to find any QB who could do squat with the lame blocking he was getting in those games.

You also fail to mention that there was a game with a 126 rating and a 90.7 in there.

I know the OL is part of the blame...I also know of the one really good game he had (vs KC, possibly the worst defensive team in football then)...

I'm just getting concerned a little here...I actually could have went back a little further than just 7 games by the way

David
 

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Of course not, that doesn't help the spin of the argument. And actually, out of his last 7 games, 6 of them were against teams that won 10 or more games in 2005... the Jags, Panthers, Chiefs, Commanders, Broncos, Giants. The only team that didn't win 10 games in 2005 was the Rams.

thats all well and good, but if you are a good QB shouldnt you also play well vs good teams? None of those teams you listed were the 85 Bears or something

I guess we'll see starting this week...Washington's defense is good and I'm sure Greg Williams will come after him, but they are also missing their best CB and didnt show much of a pass rush themselves last week...

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
pretty freaking ugly...and I've been a big Bledsoe supporter...but its bad:

131/241 54.4 comp %, 10 tds, 13 ints, sacked 28 times (4 of the 7 games have QB ratings of 36.9, 42.0, 53.5 and 45.8)

thats not the sort of trend you want to see

David

It is amazing how similar media and fan reactions are, and how the negative variables manifest themselves, when the Cowboys acquire skilled accomplished but aging veteran quarterbacks, operating behind less than stellar offensive lines. Lead footed Testaverde toiled behind a flawed porous Oline, and in his last 7 games of the 2004 season he threw 12 interceptions against 6 touchdowns.

Even a few years back the issues were eerily similar with cries of giving Romo or Henson a starting quarterback shot. The years go by but the outcome remains relatively the same no matter what defensive and offensive supporting cast we place around these quarterbacks.

At what point are we going to look at a quarterback's performance in recent let alone real time versus what he has done in the days of Abe Lincoln.
 

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Boyzmamacita said:
The scary thing is he usually starts a season pretty strong, then has a reputation for fading down the stretch, but this season he has started off poorly. On the bright side, maybe he's flipping the script and will get better as the season progresses instead of getting worse.


If you look at Bledsoe's Buffalo career it can be broken down pretty neatly as:

Att Com % Yrds YPA TD INT Sacks QBRating
2002 Buffalo Bills 610 375 61.5 4359 7.15 24 15 54/369 86.0
2003 Buffalo Bills 471 274 58.2 2860 6.07 11 12 49/371 73.0
2004 Buffalo Bills 450 256 56.9 2932 6.52 20 16 37/215 76.6


2002 looks very, very good. The problem is that it was actually the "Tale of Two Halves..."

During the first half of 2002 Drew (as we know first hand) burst out of the gate and rang up a QB rating of close to 100.

Then it happened--

Defenses started to "figure out" what was happening. You see during the first 8 games of the 2002 season Drew was eating defenses up with the long-pass. Price and Moulds couldn't be stopped. But then defenses focused on doing one thing... taking away the long pass. Buffalo started seeing a lot of defenses where both safties were staying back.

As we know Bledsoe loves the long pass-- to an absolute fault. And when teams took that away his slow progression of reads (not too mention his somewhat lack of interest in the short passing game) started creating an avalanche of sacks.

The result was the second half of 2002 earning Bledsoe a QB rating of closer to 70.

Between Peerless Price leaving after the end of 2002, Moulds getting hurt during 2003 and defenses using the same philosophy as they did over the last half of '02 the result was a miserable year for Bledsoe.

I think we're seeing a little of the ghost of 2003 so far in this season. Drew has better WR's and TE in Dallas but at this stage Henry was a better back (or at least had more credentials) than what Jones and MBIII do. I think the olines are about even-- neither one is something to write home about.

But the fact is Bledsoe is easily defended and I'm hoping the coaching staff can do something to get him going. His "bouncing around" due to phantom pressure last week was somewhat scary-- that's not a good sign.

In 2004 Bledsoe starting "buying into" the short passing game brought to the table by Mike Mularky and I think that along with the development of Lee Evans picked up Bledsoe's numbers. However during the Pittsburgh game (the last game of the season and the chance for the Bills to get to the playoffs) Bledsoe reverted to the bad habit of looking deep and trying to make something happen rather than take what the defense was giving it. This totally frustrated the Buffalo brain trust and led to Bledsoe finding his way to Dallas.

I'm sure someone will read this and say that "Mike Winicki is a hater". But I truly believe I've painted an accurate picture of the Bledsoe years in Buffalo-- both good & bad.

Obviously we can't have a repeat of the 2003 performance-- it just won't work and get us into the playoffs.

I think Bledsoe has to play well this weekend or his career in Dallas is over with.
 
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