Blind Resume (RB)

[Derinyar]

You don't pay DeMarco based off of 1800 yards this year. He's unlikely to ever do that again. Only the real top drawer elite RBs put up multiple seasons like that, and I personally don't see Murray as one of those. So if you think Murray is a 1400 yard back behind this line how much of a loss in the running game do you have to take to make not paying him north of 5 million cap a year palatable? If a committee of cheaper backs can get you 1200 yards for under a million dollars does that make it worth it? Williams/Randle/Dunbar combine for 1200/600 where you think Murray is more like 1400/500, assuming he stays healthy, is that enough additional production to be worth 4-5 million to use other places?

 

[50cent]

You don't pay DeMarco based off of 1800 yards this year. He's unlikely to ever do that again. Only the real top drawer elite RBs put up multiple seasons like that, and I personally don't see Murray as one of those. So if you think Murray is a 1400 yard back behind this line how much of a loss in the running game do you have to take to make not paying him north of 5 million cap a year palatable? If a committee of cheaper backs can get you 1200 yards for under a million dollars does that make it worth it? Williams/Randle/Dunbar combine for 1200/600 where you think Murray is more like 1400/500, assuming he stays healthy, is that enough additional production to be worth 4-5 million to use other places?

then why not apply that same logic to Dez? Go get a couple of WRs instead of tagging him or paying him elite $!

 

[erod]

Do not pay huge money for a running back.......ever.

 

[erod]

then why not apply that same logic to Dez? Go get a couple of WRs instead of tagging him or paying him elite $!

Because elite receivers are extremely rare. Good running backs are a dime a dozen.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Let's be honest......If this wasn't his contract year...that broken hand would have been a season ender. Look @ the guys track record for injury. He gets hurt all the time. The fact that he played through this goes to show he mailed it in previous years. Do you really want to give a guy a bunch of money and long term security so he can screw you by not playing?

Not against the Giants when he twisted his knee. Heck he could hardly walk. Injury is part of the game. Especially Murray's running style.

 

[50cent]

Because elite receivers are extremely rare. Good running backs are a dime a dozen.

Your simplistic take on the subject speaks volumes! If good running backs are a dime a dozen, then there would be no market for a 26 year old running backs. Just draft one right?

 

[50cent]

Because elite receivers are extremely rare. Good running backs are a dime a dozen.

Also, to your elite WRs comment to my post. Classify what you consider an elite WR and count their collective SB rings without another star WR opposite. Spending top money on an elite Wr without enough to pair him with another top notch counterpart is just as ignorant as letting a young elite RB walk with perception that "its easy to replace productive RB"!

 

[Gaede]

Love how ppl just gloss over Murrays leadership as well. As if that doesn't count

 

[TwoDeep3]

I don't think there is anyone saying they wouldn't like to keep Murray because he's a bad back.

Everyone has to realize that he's a quality back who can really play. The problem that most everyone has, myself for sure, is that I don't want to give a ton of money to a running back whose shown throughout his career that he has trouble staying healthy. Even this year when he played the whole year he still hurt his hand and it hindered him a bit at the end of the year.

I feel when you've got a quality O-Line, as we've got and will continue to build upon, that you can get other guys to plug in there and give you quality production. You might not get one guy to give you as much as Murray alone but I'd rather pay a couple of guys a lot less to get close to the same production between them then give a ton of money to one guy.

And so money creates the issue in your mind wherein you would completely roll the dice on again manufacturing a rushing attack that takes the pressure off Romo?

To put it another way, you would now vote to get rid of Emmitt because of money. Not saying Murray will set the all time rushing record. But he sure did post the best single season rushing record, which included the HOF back Emmitt Smith.

So break up the triplets, and risk losing the moxey this offense has because of money to shore up a defense that could need far less than people expect.

Does that sum it up?

 

[Fletch]

Anything over 30 million, let him walk. Hell 25 million. I, his biggest supporter, wouldnt pay him more than 5 mil per.

I dont think anybody believes he's worth 8 million a year.

I wouldnt overpay the other guy either.

Shady is a punk ***! Anyone who needs to go by a nickname is usually a me-kinda-guy in my opinion.

 

[50cent]

Larry Fitz 0 rings
Megatron 0 runs
Dez 0 rings
Randy Moss 0 rings

This new rage that elite WRs are more valuable and deserve salary cap hell contracts more than RBs deserve fair value contracts is amazing! Money is money, giving Murray $6M a pop is bad compared to giving Dez $12-14M a pop?! I don't get it in a salary cap world!

 

[btcutter]

Because elite receivers are extremely rare. Good running backs are a dime a dozen.

You know Tex Schramm used to say that WRs are a dime a dozen back in his days and never drafted a WR with the 1st rounder. Times changes.

 

[Gameover]

Larry Fitz 0 rings
Megatron 0 runs
Dez 0 rings
Randy Moss 0 rings

This new rage that elite WRs are more valuable and deserve salary cap hell contracts more than RBs deserve fair value contracts is amazing! Money is money, giving Murray $6M a pop is bad compared to giving Dez $12-14M a pop?! I don't get it in a salary cap world!

No team has ever won a Super Bowl because of their wide receiver. No team!

Plenty have rode the coat tails of it's running back.

 

[erod]

No team is ever won a Super Bowl because of their wide receiver. No team!

Plenty have rode the coat tails of it's running back.

This is board filled with Dan Lebatard's

How many running backs did New England use to win three Super Bowls and make it to two others?

Who was Green Bay's great running back when they won it?

Who was the Giants great back? They won it AFTER they got rid of Tiki Barber.

The world is full of excellent running backs. There are very, very few elite receivers.

 

[Gameover]

Because elite receivers are extremely rare. Good running backs are a dime a dozen.

New England vs Seattle: name the WR on both teams?

 

[Gameover]

How many running backs did New England use to win three Super Bowls and make it to two others?

Who was Green Bay's great running back when they won it?

Who was the Giants great back? They won it AFTER they got rid of Tiki Barber.

The world is full of excellent running backs. There are very, very few elite receivers.

More elite WR than there has ever been.

Back in the day there was a handful
Rice
Irvin
Brown
Carter
Sharpe

Everybody has one now because the way the games played. WR is the most overrated position on the field

 

[Future]

Stats without any context, especially for running backs, are completely useless. This set is particularly troubling because it doesn't even bother to include YPC, TDs, or Fumbles.

 

[erod]

New England vs Seattle: name the WR on both teams?

You mean the best defense in the league versus a three-time Super Bowl winning quarterback?

Try again with Green Bay and Indianapolis.

 

[Derinyar]

then why not apply that same logic to Dez? Go get a couple of WRs instead of tagging him or paying him elite $!

You just hit the crux of the argument I'd make. Dez is elite, while Murray is in the cut below that. In essence Dez is a better WR then Murray is a RB. Its easier to get a similar effect out of multiple players for Murray then it is for Dez. If we run as often as we did this year the defense will likely still have to adjust to that. If you use two good WRs to replace Dez's production I doubt either effect the coverage past what is required of the bodies on the field. Dez didn't do a lot statistically during the playoffs because both teams tried to remove him from the game and let someone else beat them.

 

[erod]

More elite WR than there has ever been.

Back in the day there was a handful
Rice
Irvin
Brown
Carter
Sharpe

Everybody has one now because the way the games played. WR is the most overrated position on the field

What do you call elite?

Calvin Johnson and Dez Bryant are the two elite receivers in the league. Maybe AJ Green, Jordy Nelson, and Julio Jones, but they're a step down, and Beckham is right there. Benjamin and Watkins maybe one day.

Adrian Peterson is the only truly elite running back in the league. There are several backs who could have gotten 1600 yards behind this line, and a couple that might have hit 2000.