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erod

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Bottom line.

Dez has been elite every year.

Murray has been once.
 

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You mean the best defense in the league versus a three-time Super Bowl winning quarterback?

Try again with Green Bay and Indianapolis.

Indy has no chance of winning. Nelson is elite now? I thought he was bum.

He proves my point tho. The guy in Philly's not any good to me and he had 100 catches and 10td. You can get anybody to catch passes for you. Laurent Robinson caught more TD passes than Irvin and Brown ever did. Laurent Robinson.
 

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What do you call elite?

Calvin Johnson and Dez Bryant are the two elite receivers in the league. Maybe AJ Green, Jordy Nelson, and Julio Jones, but they're a step down, and Beckham is right there. Benjamin and Watkins maybe one day.

Adrian Peterson is the only truly elite running back in the league. There are several backs who could have gotten 1600 yards behind this line, and a couple that might have hit 2000.

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Antonio Brown runs rings around Dez Bryant. Brown runs every route in the book.

Bryant isn't in a healthy Julio jones league

And I'm not a Calvin Johnson fan
 
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I wonder if losing fumbles in win or go home games two years in a row has hurt his status.
 

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Antonio Brown runs rings around Dez Bryant. Brown runs every route in the book.

Bryant isn't in a healthy Julio jones league

And I'm not a Calvin Johnson fan

You lose all credibility with your statement that Dez isn't as good as Julio.
 

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More elite WR than there has ever been.

Back in the day there was a handful
Rice
Irvin
Brown
Carter
Sharpe

Everybody has one now because the way the games played. WR is the most overrated position on the field

There are two players that make that play in Green Bay. Dez and Megatron.
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Antonio Brown runs rings around Dez Bryant. Brown runs every route in the book.

Bryant isn't in a healthy Julio jones league

And I'm not a Calvin Johnson fan

Antonio Brown can't make that play in Green Bay. Or against Houston. Or half a dozen others.

Dez makes Julio Jones look incredibly soft.
 

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Let's be honest......If this wasn't his contract year...that broken hand would have been a season ender. Look @ the guys track record for injury. He gets hurt all the time. The fact that he played through this goes to show he mailed it in previous years. Do you really want to give a guy a bunch of money and long term security so he can screw you by not playing?

I call BS on that. Running for 2K does not happen every year for any RB. Murray and the OL took a lot of pride in his accomplishments, each and every one. Murray has intangibles coming out the wazoo, which all the naysayers seem to ignore. Everyone is clamoring for the flavor of the month, same thing happened when Emmitt was running into the record books early in his career.

People just do not know how good they have it, especially the know it alls enamored with the alleged greener grass on the other side of the hill. Appreciate what you have AND build on it, especially after a season like we just saw.
 

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And so money creates the issue in your mind wherein you would completely roll the dice on again manufacturing a rushing attack that takes the pressure off Romo?

To put it another way, you would now vote to get rid of Emmitt because of money. Not saying Murray will set the all time rushing record. But he sure did post the best single season rushing record, which included the HOF back Emmitt Smith.

So break up the triplets, and risk losing the moxey this offense has because of money to shore up a defense that could need far less than people expect.

Does that sum it up?

Luckily we didn't have to do that before to win Superbowls.

There is no way to pay Murray what he wants and Dez.

If i'm choosing I'm taking Dez because his mere presence on the field makes the entire defense change how they're going to play.

And Emmitt produced year, after year, after year, after year. He didn't produce just one year. I do not trust Murray in the long run. He's stayed only basically healthy one year and surprise surprise it came in a contract year.

And let's not forget that a big part of the salary cap issues this team had in the early 2000's was because they kept trying to keep things together when those players couldn't get it done anymore and wound up with dead money cause of retirements and such.

I know everyone wants to act like this is Madden and you can just turn the cap off and keep everyone you want to but it's simply not realistic. You already have Smith and Romo with over 100 million dollar contracts. You're about to have to pay Dez probably close to that if not over.

You can't keep everyone and this defense is a long, long, long way from being a really good unit.

So, yeah, in short money is going to cause you to lose Murray and yes I'd rather lose Murray and get production out of multiple backs for cheaper than sacrifice the future of the team, and their cap, to try and keep everyone again.
 

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Luckily we didn't have to do that before to win Superbowls.

There is no way to pay Murray what he wants and Dez.

If i'm choosing I'm taking Dez because his mere presence on the field makes the entire defense change how they're going to play.

And Emmitt produced year, after year, after year, after year. He didn't produce just one year. I do not trust Murray in the long run. He's stayed only basically healthy one year and surprise surprise it came in a contract year.

And let's not forget that a big part of the salary cap issues this team had in the early 2000's was because they kept trying to keep things together when those players couldn't get it done anymore and wound up with dead money cause of retirements and such.

I know everyone wants to act like this is Madden and you can just turn the cap off and keep everyone you want to but it's simply not realistic. You already have Smith and Romo with over 100 million dollar contracts. You're about to have to pay Dez probably close to that if not over.

You can't keep everyone and this defense is a long, long, long way from being a really good unit.

So, yeah, in short money is going to cause you to lose Murray and yes I'd rather lose Murray and get production out of multiple backs for cheaper than sacrifice the future of the team, and their cap, to try and keep everyone again.

Sometimes it's difficult to understand if the point of a post is being flippant or sarcastic - and in that I don't mean hateful, but more along the lines of funny. The point I made was Dallas created a climate which allowed Romo to throw less, and the offense to achieve more. Your response was "Luckily we didn't have to do that before to win Superbowls".

And yet that is exactly what the early 90's teams did.

Jimmy Johnson has said many times over, including within the last two weeks on the where he pontificates on the Fox pregame show that Aikman didn't have the gaudy stats because Emmitt and the running game was the focal point of the offense. Your comment about Emmit ignores that Dallas then still had to come up with an offensive line to open holes for Emmitt. So what Murray did in the past isn't the same because of other reasons, not talent. Murray showed his talent in each year, but either injury or lack of talent around him shared in why he is now an overnight sensation.

I also challenge your assertion this team cannot afford both. Time and again they have signed who they needed, or thought they needed, and this is no different.

Further, this defense is closer than most think. With health, the linebackers will be an exceptional group. Lawrence seems to be finding his footing. This defense is another pass rusher and perhaps a tackle away.

But regardless of all that, the window is now and not four years from now. Romo is on a short chain as far as career. You assemble this group with the culture of winning seven years ago, I might be inclined to roll the dice on altering the offense.

But too many RB's have gone thro9ugh the turnstiles here with little results, and far too much time was spent relying on Romo to do it all for me to believe fixing something that isn't broken is the right plan.
 

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You know Tex Schramm used to say that WRs are a dime a dozen back in his days and never drafted a WR with the 1st rounder. Times changes.

Schramm drafted Mike Sherrard and Michael Irvin in the first round.
 

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Sometimes it's difficult to understand if the point of a post is being flippant or sarcastic - and in that I don't mean hateful, but more along the lines of funny. The point I made was Dallas created a climate which allowed Romo to throw less, and the offense to achieve more. Your response was "Luckily we didn't have to do that before to win Superbowls".

I quit reading right there.

That had zero to do with running the ball.

That was in response to the fact that luckily we didn't have to break the Triplets up before winning Superbowls. That had zero to do with running the ball or passing the ball.

And quite frankly there is no way you could have mistaken what I was talking about with rather we should run the ball or not.

And with that in mind I will not continue this conversation with you because that makes it perfectly clear to me that your intention is to try and twist words and turn responses into things they are not about for whatever reason you have for doing so.

I don't play those games. Good day.
 

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I quit reading right there.

That had zero to do with running the ball.

That was in response to the fact that luckily we didn't have to break the Triplets up before winning Superbowls. That had zero to do with running the ball or passing the ball.

And quite frankly there is no way you could have mistaken what I was talking about with rather we should run the ball or not.

And with that in mind I will not continue this conversation with you because that makes it perfectly clear to me that your intention is to try and twist words and turn responses into things they are not about for whatever reason you have for doing so.

I don't play those games. Good day.

I misread your comment. I apologize. I was not playing games. I thought you meant something else. Now that you explained, it is quite clear.

Mea culpa.
 
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