Blindside Block Play

TheMarathonContinues

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Rams got called for two of them. I have never heard or seen that called in my life. I hated it then and I hate it now. Very silly rule.

I think Wilbur is okay though being a few possessions later he got a sack lol.
 

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Rams got called for two of them. I have never heard or seen that called in my life. I hated it then and I hate it now. Very silly rule.

I think Wilbur is okay though being a few possessions later he got a sack lol.

Yea, unfortunately i was working during the game so i was in the process of watching it as i made that thread, haha. Saw the sack later on. Good stuff.
 

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I thought it was a great block , I don't like the new rule and I am a Cowboy's fan, but the Rams really got the short end of the stick on that call.
 

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Having only seen it streaming on my laptop I did not have the best look, but I believe he caught the bottom of Wilber's facemask with the hit and the twisting of the head probably resulted in the flag.
 

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In one afternoon game yesterday (Skins-Lions?) they actually called a blindside hit on a receiver who CAUGHT THE BALL!
The NFL is getting out of hand with these rules.
 

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"It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player in a defenseless position. For example, a player in a defenseless position can be a receiver in the act of catching a pass, a quarterback completing his throwing motion in the pocket, a punter completing a punt, or a kicker finishing a kick.

"The foul is forcibly hitting the defenseless player's head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him; and lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead 'hairline' parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player's body."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...-blocks-adds-defenders-to-defenseless-players
 

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Not happy to see Wilbur hurt on the play.. not sure how significant his injury is, as i haven't looked yet, but was anyone else annoyed, just on principle, at the fact that the block by TJ was called a penalty there?

I can't even see how that could be considered "blindside".. you could say any hit is a "blindside" hit if the player looks away at the last second. He came from directly in front of him and put a hard, clean hit on the guy. If he wasn't looking, he needs to be more aware. I love Moose, but i disagree saying you can't be worried about who's coming to block you on any given play. You certainly can, and need to be aware of those things, or you'll get your butt lit up like that.

I disagree strongly with that rule.

The minute the rule came out I was on here crying about it. Another rule aimed at softening the game!!!
 

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lol.. comparing football to anceint Rome.

You need a history lesson.

We aren't talking about guys getting massacred.. we're talking about clean football hits. Taking clean football hits out of the game of football.

Get on the same page, Count.

Yes, ignore everything I said to get to some irrelevant insult, that's how conversations work.
 

RoyTheHammer

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Yes, ignore everything I said to get to some irrelevant insult, that's how conversations work.

You need to come back down to earth before we can start the conversation.. because right now we aren't on the same planet.

Im happy that the players wear pads and that we are continually developing technologies that make their equipment safer.

My problem is with making rules that take clean football plays out of the game.

For the third time now..
 

Dhragon

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You need to come back down to earth before we can start the conversation.. because right now we aren't on the same planet.

Im happy that the players wear pads and that we are continually developing technologies that make their equipment safer.

My problem is with making rules that take clean football plays out of the game.

For the third time now..

I agree with you. Unfortunately, the league has now made a lot of clean football plays now NOT clean football plays per new rules.
 

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Football has changed, and it's due to the body of evidence on Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It would be irresponsible to fail to implement safety standards. Therefore, the warrior/assassin mentality has to disappear as well. The hit with intent to injure or disregard for injury cannot be allowed under the strategy of preventing short and long-term physical damage. Of course the game is dangerous -- that's why they wear pads; but there is not enough protection to prevent injury when 240# manimals hit with intent to knock somebody out.
Salaries are too high for that kind of asset mismanagement to be allowed.
 

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I thought it was clean hit, didnt know about the rule until he was flagged. Anyone who has ever played football has received or given one of those hits, used to be part of the game.....but a lot of thing that used to be part of the game have been regulated out....some good, some bad.
 

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I thought they were clean blocks and it bothered me that they were called. Was there a penalty called last year when Lee took a blindside block like that against Seattle?
 

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I'm not sure how much you make or how much you think the average NFL player makes over their career, but I highly doubt that the average NFL player makes 1000x what you make.

For all your belly aching, I'm sure you still watch the games and are still excited by the product. No amount of money is worth having to relearn how to walk, this isn't ancient Rome.

People love to say these guys get paid to play a game, but it's only a game until you're getting paid - at that point, it's a job. The fact that they happen to enjoy their jobs doesn't mean they shouldn't be afforded a level of protection as to their safety.

Good points. Also no matter their income these guys last anywhere from 1 -10 years max. Few last longer and most last just a handful. After that they never make that kind of money unless they were a popular superstar. So walking around half ******** because of unnecessary hits isn't such a cool thing.

Blindside blocks are also outlawed because they can be deliberately set up to take out a guy.
 

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I thought they were clean blocks and it bothered me that they were called. Was there a penalty called last year when Lee took a blindside block like that against Seattle?

It wasn't illegal last year. If so, it would have been called on that hit, more than likely.
 

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TJ McDonald may not be able to cover worth a damn but he hits like a ton of bricks. He was bringing the heat all game long.
 

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You need a lawyer to figure out what that means, but how can a they call a hit on a "defenceless receiver" who caught the ball? Isn't a receiver with the ball always defenceless?

Looks like you can't hit a guy in the head in any fashion and can't lower your helmet. Seems to be fair game outside of that. Although I think refs are pretty much told to throw a flag and give the generic penalty if it just looks bad enough. Cam Chancellor killed Vernon last year as clean as can be and the flags came flying because it looked bad.
 

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As a defensive player (LB) I lit guys up that came across the middle and I got lit up by WR's and TE's when chasing a runner down the sidelines. When that took my ability to lite up those guys, I damn sure don't want them to be able to do it to me.

You can make that block without getting a flag, I almost always knew the guys I was playing against in High School, not so much in college. Some guys I tried to kill some guys I gave a good hard shot.
 
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