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We saw the blueprint to beat the Pats tonight. The eagles attacked the right places in the offense and the defense of the Pats. We have better skill players so in turn we should be able to really step up the game against them.
 
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The entire NFL saw the blueprint, now the question is do you have the defensive personel to stop them... I believe if healthy Dallas defense can matchup pretty well. Jason Garrett will attack New England more with post routes and slants.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1790049 said:
The entire NFL saw the blueprint, now the question is do you have the defensive personel to stop them... I believe if healthy Dallas defense can matchup pretty well. Jason Garrett will attack New England more with post routes and slants.

Newman wasn't healthy for the Pats game this year. In the Super Bowl, he'll make them pay for outs and slants. 6 points each.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1790049 said:
now the question is do you have the defensive personel to stop them
Exactly.


And Im interested to see what the Pats are gonna try to do to overcome this. It's good to see the world being knocked down to reality cause at this point, anyone who has the nerve to call the Pats the best team ever needs a chin check.
 

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I am still not buying that the Eagle's defense gave the league a blueprint.

They didn't really stop the Pats' offense, Brady drove the offense down the field when he needed to.

I think the biggest thing they showed was where to pass on the Pats.

They attacked the middle of the field between the safeties and the LBers.

Besides that, nothing ground-breaking IMO.
 

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smarta5150;1790096 said:
They didn't really stop the Pats' offense, Brady drove the offense down the field when he needed to.
They held the Pats to 24 points. Well below their average do in large part to the constant pressure on Brady. The X-factor was Welker.
 

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The Eagles did lay down the blueprint on how to beat the Patriots. The Pats are vulnerable to the middle inside slant and also the inside curl. Like the Cowboys, the Patriots play a bend but don’t break defense. They are programmed to not give up the big play. The downside to that is that those 10 yard gains not only pick up first downs, but keeps the Patriots D on the field and Tom Brady on the bench. That is why the Pats offense was only able to put up 24 points because Philly controlled the clock. Now any defensive coordinator with a brain can see that the Eagles also laid the blueprint on how to stop the Patriots offense. The key to stopping the Patriots offense is to play physical with them and not allow anything deep. Sheppard played Moss perfectly all night, not allowing him to get deep, but also jammed him at the line and laid the wood whenever Moss caught anything in front of him. This led to two drops by Moss because he was weary of the big hit. However, this is where the Eagles failed: On many of the inside slants run by Welker, the Eagles failed to jam him at the line. If the Eagles didn’t allow Welker a free release, he would not have gotten into the zone spots in time. The Eagles applied good pressure, but Brady to Welker was a half a second too fast on most of those third downs. Jam Welker at the line and you have a sack on Brady. Like I said, any D coordinator with a brain should be able to see that and take advantage.
 

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jdub2k4;1790326 said:
The Eagles did lay down the blueprint on how to beat the Patriots. The Pats are vulnerable to the middle inside slant and also the inside curl. Like the Cowboys, the Patriots play a bend but don’t break defense. They are programmed to not give up the big play. The downside to that is that those 10 yard gains not only pick up first downs, but keeps the Patriots D on the field and Tom Brady on the bench. That is why the Pats offense was only able to put up 24 points because Philly controlled the clock. Now any defensive coordinator with a brain can see that the Eagles also laid the blueprint on how to stop the Patriots offense. The key to stopping the Patriots offense is to play physical with them and not allow anything deep. Sheppard played Moss perfectly all night, not allowing him to get deep, but also jammed him at the line and laid the wood whenever Moss caught anything in front of him. This led to two drops by Moss because he was weary of the big hit. However, this is where the Eagles failed: On many of the inside slants run by Welker, the Eagles failed to jam him at the line. If the Eagles didn’t allow Welker a free release, he would not have gotten into the zone spots in time. The Eagles applied good pressure, but Brady to Welker was a half a second too fast on most of those third downs. Jam Welker at the line and you have a sack on Brady. Like I said, any D coordinator with a brain should be able to see that and take advantage.

You brought up some terrific points. Nice post. The only thing I disagree at all with is the statement about missing jams on Welker. The problem is that Welker will line up in the slot, which makes jamming him incredibly difficult if not impossible-- thus the advantage of playing in the slot.

And what's the defense for that?

Easy, put a player on him who can stick to him man-to-man without the jam, and that player would be Newman.
 

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nathanlt;1790064 said:
Newman wasn't healthy for the Pats game this year. In the Super Bowl, he'll make them pay for outs and slants. 6 points each.
Henry didn't even play, he would have made a huge difference, allowing either Newman or even Reeves to cover Welker.

ThreeSportStar80;1790049 said:
The entire NFL saw the blueprint, now the question is do you have the defensive personel to stop them... I believe if healthy Dallas defense can matchup pretty well. Jason Garrett will attack New England more with post routes and slants.
This is the type of game plan that has T.O. written all over it. Over the middle on slants and crosses is where he can be most effective.
 

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smarta5150;1790096 said:
I am still not buying that the Eagle's defense gave the league a blueprint.

They didn't really stop the Pats' offense, Brady drove the offense down the field when he needed to.

I think the biggest thing they showed was where to pass on the Pats.

They attacked the middle of the field between the safeties and the LBers.

Besides that, nothing ground-breaking IMO.

I agree.

The Patriots had an off night ... and still won.

They were ripe to be had last night ... dropped passes, blown assignments, missed chip-shot field goals. The Eagles just weren't good enough to pull it off.
 

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We were not completely healthy when we played the Patriots earlier this year but hopefully when we face them in the SB we will be.

Newman played but was still hobbled, Anthony Henry was out and Reeves started in his place. Greg Ellis was still working his way back into the lineup and was coming off the bench. He has only started 5 games and has played in 8 but he has 8.5 sacks already!

With a healthy secondary and both Ellis and Ware starting we will put a lot more pressure on Brady and be less likely to give up big plays in the passing game. Our run defense is much improved over the last several weeks, again due in large part to the return of Ellis, and NE is not a running team as they proved again last night.

One last player I am hoping to get back by then is Terry Glenn. Having him in the starting lineup will force more deep coverage his way and free up Owens a lot more. With Crayton as the 3rd WR and Witten making plays as well we will create coverage problems for the Patriots and force them to drop more guys into coverage meaning less pressure on Romo and more running lanes for Jones & Barber.

I believe that when we are fully healthy we are a match for the Patriots and will prove it when we play them in the SB!

One last item that is improving for us is in penalties. We were called for 12 penalties in the game against them and they really cost us, putting us in 2nd or 3rd and long way too often. This has improved lately and hopefully will continue to do so through the remainder of the season.

If I were a betting man, I would bet the house that, if we are healthy, we will win against them next time we play them.

Go Cowboys!!! :starspin
 

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THUMPER;1790430 said:
We were not completely healthy when we played the Patriots earlier this year but hopefully when we face them in the SB we will be.

Newman played but was still hobbled, Anthony Henry was out and Reeves started in his place. Greg Ellis was still working his way back into the lineup and was coming off the bench. He has only started 5 games and has played in 8 but he has 8.5 sacks already!

With a healthy secondary and both Ellis and Ware starting we will put a lot more pressure on Brady and be less likely to give up big plays in the passing game. Our run defense is much improved over the last several weeks, again due in large part to the return of Ellis, and NE is not a running team as they proved again last night.

One last player I am hoping to get back by then is Terry Glenn. Having him in the starting lineup will force more deep coverage his way and free up Owens a lot more. With Crayton as the 3rd WR and Witten making plays as well we will create coverage problems for the Patriots and force them to drop more guys into coverage meaning less pressure on Romo and more running lanes for Jones & Barber.

I believe that when we are fully healthy we are a match for the Patriots and will prove it when we play them in the SB!

One last item that is improving for us is in penalties. We were called for 12 penalties in the game against them and they really cost us, putting us in 2nd or 3rd and long way too often. This has improved lately and hopefully will continue to do so through the remainder of the season.

If I were a betting man, I would bet the house that, if we are healthy, we will win against them next time we play them.

Go Cowboys!!! :starspin

Good post! :hammer:
 

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THUMPER;1790430 said:
We were not completely healthy when we played the Patriots earlier this year but hopefully when we face them in the SB we will be.

Newman played but was still hobbled, Anthony Henry was out and Reeves started in his place. Greg Ellis was still working his way back into the lineup and was coming off the bench. He has only started 5 games and has played in 8 but he has 8.5 sacks already!

With a healthy secondary and both Ellis and Ware starting we will put a lot more pressure on Brady and be less likely to give up big plays in the passing game. Our run defense is much improved over the last several weeks, again due in large part to the return of Ellis, and NE is not a running team as they proved again last night.

One last player I am hoping to get back by then is Terry Glenn. Having him in the starting lineup will force more deep coverage his way and free up Owens a lot more. With Crayton as the 3rd WR and Witten making plays as well we will create coverage problems for the Patriots and force them to drop more guys into coverage meaning less pressure on Romo and more running lanes for Jones & Barber.

I believe that when we are fully healthy we are a match for the Patriots and will prove it when we play them in the SB!

One last item that is improving for us is in penalties. We were called for 12 penalties in the game against them and they really cost us, putting us in 2nd or 3rd and long way too often. This has improved lately and hopefully will continue to do so through the remainder of the season.

If I were a betting man, I would bet the house that, if we are healthy, we will win against them next time we play them.

Go Cowboys!!! :starspin
My thoughts as well:hammer:
 

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Eagles must have a great team! Or maybe the Patriots' defence had an off night. I'd be carefull reading too much into this game.

The Patriots offense was slowed by the Eagles, but not stopped - it only punted once and had a missed field goal (unless you beleive those shotty NBC graphics), a failed fourth down conversion and a kneel down at the end of the game. Other teams have taken away Moss with double coverage this year and the Patriots have gone to hot reads and a large dose of Welker.
 

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smarta5150;1790096 said:
I am still not buying that the Eagle's defense gave the league a blueprint.

They didn't really stop the Pats' offense, Brady drove the offense down the field when he needed to.

I think the biggest thing they showed was where to pass on the Pats.

They attacked the middle of the field between the safeties and the LBers.

Besides that, nothing ground-breaking IMO.

Uh, attacking the middle of the field between the safeties and LBers is what Madden was refferring to as the blueprint.

He also stated you need to get a pass rush up the MIDDLE so Brady can't step into his passes. Brady can get around an outside pass rush.

May not be a "blueprint" per se, but the Eagles were on to something and everyone saw it.
 

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ayjackson;1791314 said:
Eagles must have a great team! Or maybe the Patriots' defence had an off night. I'd be carefull reading too much into this game.

The Patriots offense was slowed by the Eagles, but not stopped - it only punted once and had a missed field goal (unless you beleive those shotty NBC graphics), a failed fourth down conversion and a kneel down at the end of the game. Other teams have taken away Moss with double coverage this year and the Patriots have gone to hot reads and a large dose of Welker.
ughhh....they would've punted twice put some idiot went off sides on 4th down which ended up giving NE another drive which became their only TD of the second half.



And the Pats' D had an off night?? Newsflash, they've been exposed already this season for having an old defense who constantly gives up plays in the middle of the field. Guys like Brusci and Harrison constantly get exposed for the bums that they are when you hit those slants and in routes. Their only strength is trying to confuse the offense with what kind of D their playing cause the only play makers they got are Samuels and Vrabel. They have to outsmart you cause they dont have the talent to stop you if you know what they're doing.
 
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