Board question on cornerback

UnoDallas;3992209 said:
1st resign Free to a 5 yr

2 get some safty in here which ever one Ryan likes

3 I would like to bring in say an Eric Wright (CLE)

just in case Jenkins or Newman go down

This is an interesting area to improve the current team. A journeyman level player well could add a consistency to the positional stable for the future. It could be a true stroke of measured depth and management to a group who fell apart somewhat, when players for special teams dominated choice for main time duty on the carpet.

Right now, Newman has a measured shelf life and salary drain ahead as a Cowboy. Wright or another comparable corner well could reduce wear and drain from this all important group.

Not at all discounting the importance and rolls that both safeties do add to the mix.

Two defensive ends and three in the secondary well could be the best route for the Cowboys to take during free agency. Even if it involves signing three present Cowboys back onto the roster...Sensabaugh, Bowen, and Spears. Give me a Hull and a 'Wright,' and that makes me feel a lot better with a quick start on the season.
 
I have heard things about Wright that are worrying from a locker room standpoint.
 
burmafrd;3992276 said:
I have heard things about Wright that are worrying from a locker room standpoint.

Man, I don't have the manhours to voice a valued judgement here...I'd have to call upon coachscout here.
 
CCBoy;3992111 said:
You missed what was my point...and that was to point towards differences in types of cornerbacks and also the importance of depth at this particular position. As with a top quality linebacker who can actually cover a tight end up field and on the run, there is quality involved with corners as well. Asomugha is glued into his side of the field. Teams can then just limit focus by their quarterback to overloads in the other side of the field.

Name the real and complete cover corners and one probably has only Revis. As he covers any receiver all over the field. He is a shut down corner. Asomugha is just a step below that, granted, but he presents a different skill set even here.

As I pointed towards in the opening post, even with a single or pair of good corners, teams will still circumvent this and attack team's third and fourth corners until they can shut the door. The same with a tight end not being coverred by a team's weak linebacker or poorly skilled safety.

Teams will slaughter that secondary even with a very good number one or two corners.

Now, considering the Cowboys:

I feel that Terrence Newman is not far off the upper echelon of corners when he is fully healthy. That is a strong corner.

I feel that both Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick are very solid corners in a league wide consideration.

I still have reservations as to addition that Alan Ball brings at the low end of this consideration. Adding, say an Asomugha would expand very dramatically, the effect they as a group would present do an opposing team. Even a lower level skillset added to this group, would be important in a coverage set.

Burma was target on, in the coverage skills being added by a safety. This very reason is why Huff is getting a lot of attention in a consideration with the Dallas secondary.

The need for a dominant and strong tackling strong safety could be mitigated by the fact that Terence Newman makes a tremendous amount of tackles for a corner. Then, if Asomugha were mixed in, he makes a huge amount of tackles as well.

This would add to a very strong group in coverage, as well as negate the need for an 'additional' strong safety effect on early and running downs situations in a defensive series of downs.

As Burma attested, the effect of coverage is important in this type of consideration, and with carry over skills of tackling being premium in any downgraded view.

The league is now a passing league, that should NOT be missed in an examination of what should constitute ability within that group.

From all accounts, obviously the Cowboys need a quality coverage safety. That is why I am so high on Huff becoming a Cowboy. I have confidence in Gerald Sensabaugh to hold up in a 'zone defense' type setting.

The Zone can take away a team's ability to adjust receivers to set up a particular coverage ability of a team's secondary.

Myself, I'm not real high on Ball. He to me, is the Cowboy's 'weakest link.' I was not impressed with his over-the-top coverage, even in a Zone.

Here, I'll defer to you, to establish his projected merit on a shorter distance zone participation in the defense. I don't know. Would his strengths better serve a job in this reduced zone at corner?

But a rock hard set of corners would make adaptation inclusive of safety positional players from the arena of need or even lacking in ability to shut off what propells opponent teams the most. The passing game throughout an entire set of plays in a series.

Healthy, I am happy with Newman, Jenkins, and Scandrick. I also like what Sensabaugh brings to the safety position. But there are two other considerations to add...and one well could still be at corner.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not fixated or locked-in on getting Asomugha.

I would much rather take care of the other needs first and then go for the 'big-ticket' item if finances still permitted it.

But I think having a guy capable of covering one side of the field 1/2, 1/3, however you want to label it, is a huge advantage for any defense.

If I could do it, I would do it.
 
Dallas made a stupid gamble on Ball that he could play a positon that he had never played before and never even brought in anyone to challenge him. Wade "the defensive genius" played the most basic defense in the nfl. I know I was waiting for him to unleash the dogs like the year before, and it never happened. Everyone knew what we were going to do but us. Dallas was neither physically or mentally prepared to play, period. They only guys we lost from the year before was bobby carpenter and ken hamlin. Tell me they were vital cogs in this defense. We do need a real saftey ( actually two with sensabaugh). There are allot of older sateies that sign 1 yr deals every year like woodson. I dont think we have to break the bank on them. I would spend some cash on brodney poole. If you can get Namdi , dont kid urself , You go get him . We are talking taking away the number one wr of every team we face with him. The question you have to ask yourself is do we want to when a superbowl now or develop the team for another 10 years. Prossman
 
UnoDallas;3992209 said:
1st resign Free to a 5 yr

2 get some safty in here which ever one Ryan likes

3 I would like to bring in say an Eric Wright (CLE)

just in case Jenkins or Newman go down

I like the prosepct of Bryan McCann with a year under his belt and Orlando Scandrick playing in case Jenkins or Newman go down.

I also think we might see the full emergence of Orlando Scandrick as a potential starter here this year...I think he's going to show that with the proper coaching and scheme, he can be a force on the field.
 
The pass rush is the most important thing for Dallas to fix first.

We cannot go into the year with only three CBs who've stepped on the field.

If the pass rush is good and the CB play is as well then you can get by with decent safeties.
 
I agree on scandrick he will shine in a sceme like Robs, having said that You never get a chance at a guy like namdi. They are always protected. He is the second best corner in the nfl right now. What happens if we dont get him and the eagles, giant or skins do? The eagles have plenty of cap money, heck snyder may thow a 200 million dollar contract at him. :) All im saying is we cant let namdi land in our division, especially the eagles if we can help it. Prossman
 
Prossman;3992330 said:
Dallas made a stupid gamble on Ball that he could play a positon that he had never played before and never even brought in anyone to challenge him. Wade "the defensive genius" played the most basic defense in the nfl. I know I was waiting for him to unleash the dogs like the year before, and it never happened. Everyone knew what we were going to do but us. Dallas was neither physically or mentally prepared to play, period. They only guys we lost from the year before was bobby carpenter and ken hamlin. Tell me they were vital cogs in this defense. We do need a real saftey ( actually two with sensabaugh). There are allot of older sateies that sign 1 yr deals every year like woodson. I dont think we have to break the bank on them. I would spend some cash on brodney poole. If you can get Namdi , dont kid urself , You go get him . We are talking taking away the number one wr of every team we face with him. The question you have to ask yourself is do we want to when a superbowl now or develop the team for another 10 years. Prossman

Nice strike at the truth, Pross...:starspin

and those blue eyes in your monikor are enchanting. I saw a set exactly as those when I drove through at Burger King here, yesterday. Beautiful they were...:)
 
stasheroo;3992328 said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not fixated or locked-in on getting Asomugha.

I would much rather take care of the other needs first and then go for the 'big-ticket' item if finances still permitted it.

But I think having a guy capable of covering one side of the field 1/2, 1/3, however you want to label it, is a huge advantage for any defense.

If I could do it, I would do it.

And by the same token, I'd go out and shoot a hippo, elephant, or what ever the jungle opened up, to get him on the Cowboys.
 
casmith07;3992332 said:
I like the prosepct of Bryan McCann with a year under his belt and Orlando Scandrick playing in case Jenkins or Newman go down.

I also think we might see the full emergence of Orlando Scandrick as a potential starter here this year...I think he's going to show that with the proper coaching and scheme, he can be a force on the field.

Good shooting, Sir. And good mornin'.

The article on Charlie Waters makes your comment about Bryan McCann very juicy and apetizing in projection here.
 

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