Bob's Blog - Football 301: Decoding Garrett - Week 10

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So the issue that Sturm is making is that we ran out of shotgun too much, not that we didn't run enough.

With the facts he presents I have no problem accepting that argument. Although it we could hang on to the ball or catch it, we probably have more opportunities to run our base offense.
 

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Add Bob to the list of us who clearly weren't watching the same game that some on here watched. :rolleyes:
 

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skinsscalper;3084537 said:
I'll echo the sentiments of some other posters from previous weeks: This guy is the best there is out there of breaking down the Cowboys offense. His contributions to this board (via the person who actually posts them *maybe Bob himself?*) is some of the best stuff around here.

It is not Bob posting his own blog post, I can assure you of that. I post his stuff because I have been reading it and really like it. It has no agenda behind it as most of the stuff from the media.

Plus, who else breaks the game down like this every week?

BBQ
 

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NextGenBoys;3084816 said:
So the issue that Sturm is making is that we ran out of shotgun too much, not that we didn't run enough.

With the facts he presents I have no problem accepting that argument. Although it we could hang on to the ball or catch it, we probably have more opportunities to run our base offense.

Actually if you followed the link to the previous day's game recap in the OP you would see that he, in fact, did say that we didn't run enough.

To quote:
This team did not do that at all. The Cowboys went back to their road ways that suggest they cannot handle failing on offense. This happens time and time again in road wars: @ Pittsburgh, @ Denver, @ Green Bay; When they cannot get in the end zone early, as the game goes on, they start to get more and more impatient. They start to pass in running situations. They start to go "shotgun" and sling it around - which only invites more blitzing and more chaos from the defense. They do not stick to their game-plan of what they do well: Power Football.
 

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BBQ101;3084908 said:
It is not Bob posting his own blog post, I can assure you of that. I post his stuff because I have been reading it and really like it. It has no agenda behind it as most of the stuff from the media.

Plus, who else breaks the game down like this every week?

BBQ

I wasn't sure if it was Bob that posted this or not (couldn't tell by the username). The credit for posting goes to you then, my friend. ;)

I appreciate it every week.
 

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BBQ101;3084474 said:
taken from: http://sturminator.blogspot.com/2009/11/football-301-decoding-garrett-week-10.html

You must play against your opponent, not against your expectations. Some weeks, you must win a game that is truly ugly, but to do so, you have to check your expectation-level at the door, and simply play the game in front of you.​

Wade needs to tape this message onto every locker in Valley Ranch, including all the coaches offices and lounge.

In any case, Garrett should bookmark Sturm's blog as required reading.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3084966 said:
Ever notice how the Jason Garrett aplogists always stay out of threads like this?

I'm not an apologist. I'm a Garrett supporter.

And I've not stayed out of this thread.
 

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Interesting. But not unexpected.

On the contrary; anyone watching the game a few days ago...anyone with a bit of common sense...would probably tell you that something went wrong somewhere in the process, and the offense changed the way they approached situations throughout the game, and not for the better.

A lot of people said, correctly as it turns out, that there was something wrong with the playcalling or the quality of the adjustments. I did the same. But if you watch much football, again, it wasn't all that hard to detect. Those who made the claim and have made similar claims in the past didn't have the evidence to fully back it up like Bob does here; but still they knew.

The problem with Garrett isn't that he's an idiot. I actually believe that he is capable of brilliant playcalling. We've seen it. I think the Philly game the weekend before was a good example. However, something happens to him in certain situations. It's almost like he suddenly has this narrow tunnel vision on and can't see the big picture during the game. I don't know if it's panic or if he has a jekyll/hyde complex, but here's my gripe: What good is his brilliance if he keeps turning into this single minded, tunnel visioned coach when the heat is on?

It better stop...now, or else this team isn't going to make the playoffs and he might not be around next year to get it right...at least, I won't want him around anyway.
 

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NextGenBoys;3085049 said:
I'm not an apologist. I'm a Garrett supporter.

And I've not stayed out of this thread.
you just continue to be wrong:laugh2:
 

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Everlastingxxx;3085033 said:
What i like about Sturm is he doesn’t have an agenda. He calls it how he sees it.


Which is what makes his break downs absolute gold around here.

I've enjoyed every single one of these entries that I've read this season.

He had me so pumped up about this offense the previous couple of weeks. And in the spirit of fairness those wer Garret's game plans. Some of which were absolutely brilliant. I think Sturm hit the nail on the head when he theorized that Garrett simply panics at times. It's not that Garret is an idiot (though he does things sometimes that make you say "what is that idiot doing?"). He just isn't the cold calculated strategist that he needs to be sometimes IMHO. If Garret could keep his cool on the sidelines the way that Romo does in the pocket sometimes, I honestly think he could be the best in the league. Right now I think that guy is Sean Payton. Everyone tried to pigeon hole Payton as being too pass happy. Surprise, surprise, his team is absolutely pounding the rock right now. Add to that the explosiveness of their passing game and he's got a damn good thing going right now.

I'll be 100% honest, I see alot of Payton in Garrett. I'll throw my flamesuit on now, but I honestly believe that. Garrett just needs to figure out that a gameplan that's been crafted and practiced for a week shouldn't be tossed aside at the first signs of trouble. It seems, at times that, that's exactly what happens.
 

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The Dodger;3085057 said:
Interesting. But not unexpected.

On the contrary; anyone watching the game a few days ago...anyone with a bit of common sense...would probably tell you that something went wrong somewhere in the process, and the offense changed the way they approached situations throughout the game, and not for the better.

A lot of people said, correctly as it turns out, that there was something wrong with the playcalling or the quality of the adjustments. I did the same. But if you watch much football, again, it wasn't all that hard to detect. Those who made the claim and have made similar claims in the past didn't have the evidence to fully back it up like Bob does here; but still they knew.

The problem with Garrett isn't that he's an idiot. I actually believe that he is capable of brilliant playcalling. We've seen it. I think the Philly game the weekend before was a good example. However, something happens to him in certain situations. It's almost like he suddenly has this narrow tunnel vision on and can't see the big picture during the game. I don't know if it's panic or if he has a jekyll/hyde complex, but here's my gripe: What good is his brilliance if he keeps turning into this single minded, tunnel visioned coach when the heat is on?

It better stop...now, or else this team isn't going to make the playoffs and he might not be around next year to get it right...at least, I won't want him around anyway.

Garrett reminds me a bit of Mike Martz, they get pass happy at the drop of the hat. Both guys need a firm HC to keep them on track. As much as I like Wade, I don't think he's a good fit w/Garrett. And Garrett is not ready to be a Head Coach.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3084966 said:
Ever notice how the Jason Garrett aplogists always stay out of threads like this?

Don't know what people want to call me regarding Garrett. To some I'm sure I'm an apologist.

I like the potential of Garrett. He certainly has his detractors. He also came pretty highly regarded and has backed much of that up during his time in Dallas. I do think he is likely having some growing pains. That should be no shock. I suspect Jerry is wise enough to know that was going to happen.

I loved the plan to bring Reeves in, presumably at least in part (though I suspect for reasons beyond Garrett as well) to help accelerate JG's maturation. I have enough trust in Jerry and his inner circle (some are guffawing) to assess whether Garrett needs an aide for 2010, needs to be replaced altogether, or is good to go as is.

I see the potential in Garrett both as an OC and a HC. I understand the road forward with him is not without potholes. Don't be misled into thinking there are no such potholes with others "more proven."

I'd like to see the revolving door at HC in Dallas slow down, a lot. I like the team approach Jerry has built in talent evaluation. I think we have enough good things going in this organization now that consistency can reap some rewards. And I was thinking that BEFORE Garrett was hired.

Garrett may be green but I still like his upside for this organization as OC and as a possible HC.

If that makes me an apologist, so be it. I'm in the thread. :D
 

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BAT;3085074 said:
Garrett reminds me a bit of Mike Martz, they get pass happy at the drop of the hat. Both guys need a firm HC to keep them on track. As much as I like Wade, I don't think he's a good fit w/Garrett. And Garrett is not ready to be a Head Coach.


Tough to argue against that, right now bro.

We're all happy when the Boys are winning. It seems to work. However, when the chips are all down does Wade have what it takes to reel Garrett in when he's obviously blowing it? We can (and most likely will) get away with a performance like Sunday (from the coaches AND the players) and still have a chance to make some noise in the playoffs. BUT, Sunday was the closest the Cowboys have seen to a playoff type atmosphere this season (it had been posted ad naseum here the days leading up to the game that this was the Packers season). Garrett and the offense failed miserably in a situation that the opposing team were playing like they HAD TO WIN (sound like the playoffs yet?).

I'm guardedly holding out hope that Garrett can still lead this offense to some late season and post-season success. History, though, is against him.
 

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I just wish I could trust Jason Garrett already.

I said last Thursday that I was scared he was due for one of these games where it seems he doesn't get it.

Garrett was due for a bad game

:banghead:

Now next Sunday against the Commanders the offense will put up 38 points and look like the best offense in the league.

There will still be some mistakes by the players and they won't execute on every play either. There is no perfect in football.

And the Dallas Cowboys are to blame for the loss to the Packers, not Jason Garrett. The problem is that Redball keeps making the same mistake a few times a season. I just hope at some point he learns from it.
 

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skinsscalper;3085070 said:
Which is what makes his break downs absolute gold around here.

I've enjoyed every single one of these entries that I've read this season.

He had me so pumped up about this offense the previous couple of weeks. And in the spirit of fairness those wer Garret's game plans. Some of which were absolutely brilliant. I think Sturm hit the nail on the head when he theorized that Garrett simply panics at times. It's not that Garret is an idiot (though he does things sometimes that make you say "what is that idiot doing?"). He just isn't the cold calculated strategist that he needs to be sometimes IMHO. If Garret could keep his cool on the sidelines the way that Romo does in the pocket sometimes, I honestly think he could be the best in the league. Right now I think that guy is Sean Payton. Everyone tried to pigeon hole Payton as being too pass happy. Surprise, surprise, his team is absolutely pounding the rock right now. Add to that the explosiveness of their passing game and he's got a damn good thing going right now.

I'll be 100% honest, I see alot of Payton in Garrett. I'll throw my flamesuit on now, but I honestly believe that. Garrett just needs to figure out that a gameplan that's been crafted and practiced for a week shouldn't be tossed aside at the first signs of trouble. It seems, at times that, that's exactly what happens.

Whether Garrett stays or goes, or he is the next Payton or not, this is a great post IMO because...

the baby has not been simply and mindlessly thrown out with the bath water.

This is the kind of dialogue I want this site to have. Not a knee jerk, fire Garrett, or Wade or cut so and so because they made a mistake.

Thoughtful consideration. Its far too rare a thing on this site IMO.

Thank you skinsscalper. :thumbup:
 

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dcfanatic;3085095 said:
I just wish I could trust Jason Garrett already.

I said last Thursday that I was scared he was due for one of these games where it seems he doesn't get it.

Garrett was due for a bad game

:banghead:

Now next Sunday against the Commanders the offense will put up 38 points and look like the best offense in the league.

There will still be some mistakes by the players and they won't execute on every play either. There is no perfect in football.

And the Dallas Cowboys are to blame for the loss to the Packers, not Jason Garrett. The problem is that Redball keeps making the same mistake a few times a season. I just hope at some point he learns from it.

Another balanced post and again, my thanks. :thumbup:
 

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Alexander;3084741 said:
There is probably a great deal of truth to this.

Garrett needs a little help. Not a lot, but figuring out the nuances of playcalling is an area for opportunity.

Alexander. It's not nuances that needs addressing. It's common sense. It's a tight game. You run the ball. They're blitzing. You call a lot of delayed lead traps, draws, screens. You batten up and tighten the hatches. Where was all the 12, 13, and max protect packages? Where was the run to sell the play action?

If I can see these things, then think how much more an OC should be able to see it.

I called his play calling brilliant after the Philly game. I said he called a poor game Sunday. So he doesn't suck. He doesn't see the forest for the trees at times.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3084966 said:
Ever notice how the Jason Garrett aplogists always stay out of threads like this?
And the reverse happened when Garrett's offense was rolling two weeks ago.
 
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