Boldin Says Relationship With Cardinals Can’t Be Repaired - Pft

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Gee...they had all that distraction going on and still managed to make it through the playoffs and too the Superbowl?!?! Hummm....I wonder how that happened.
 

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dadymat;2626328 said:
so you condone his actions? what if those few seconds of his tirade had distracted Haley and they would have lost......then i guess you would have blamed Haley for bad play calling......these players have to stop putting themselves before the team....why is that such a hard concept to grasp.....


divine intervention...?

I could really care less about what he did.

The exact point is that .....they won. Are willing to say they won "due to" the distraction?

Distractions in football are a little harder to impact professionals like the distraction of a mom/wife/dog walking in front of the TV while you are running a corner route in Madden.

When you are on the field, distractions really don't play the role everyone wants you to believe. but boy it sells and people get lathered by it everyone.

I live in Charlotte, and Steve Smith breaking Lucas's nose received less press. No one here got near as lathered up at that as they have about what TO might have said, didn't say, Wade doing, not doing, et al.

The best thing that could happen is a media lockdown. Some have abided, some have not.
 

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McLovin;2626358 said:
I could really care less about what he did.

The exact point is that .....they won. Are willing to say they won "due to" the distraction?

Distractions in football are a little harder to impact professionals like the distraction of a mom/wife/dog walking in front of the TV while you are running a corner route in Madden.

When you are on the field, distractions really don't play the role everyone wants you to believe. but boy it sells and people get lathered by it everyone.

I live in Charlotte, and Steve Smith breaking Lucas's nose received less press. No one here got near as lathered up at that as they have about what TO might have said, didn't say, Wade doing, not doing, et al.

The best thing that could happen is a media lockdown. Some have abided, some have not.


these guys arent cyborgs...they have feelings and they do get angry and they do get distracted.....and i dont play Madden


and there is a problem with your outlook...that is not the exact point...they won without him on the field ....the exact point is he put himself before the team...
he did not care that his coach was trying to call in a play, he didnt care his team mates were in battle , he did not care if his actions were a distraction, bottom line is that he didnt care that his team was at work trying to win a playoff game....all he cared about was the fact he got pulled out of the game and instead of supporting his team and cheering them on he chose to attack his coach and make a fool of himself on national TV.....he didnt even celebrate the win with his team....why? cause he was upset he didnt get used how he thought he should have been used
 

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McLovin;2626336 said:
I actually dont like the any pub is good pub. What it has created is a cast of players since mid 1990s that are concerned about getting on TV rather than winning.

The cast of players don't just appear here by themselves.

Keep that in mind.

It only gets worse as the media platforms have expanded in number. The Irvin/McIver incident was MUCH bigger than anything that went on this year, and it was about 2 days of talk.

If that.

If it happened today, there would be a Congressional investigation about the use of shears in NFL locker rooms.

Don't really blame the media, moreso the dumb fans that run with every morsel of info and blow it out of proportion.

Everyone is going to take what they hear and process it through a filter.

Since nearly everything is negative news, it will be processed accordingly.

That does not mean it is all true or all false.


And I think Jerry did that for a few weeks until Reeves went on his world tour to say "we didn't sign a contract". That is what I thought Jerry meant by saying "he got it". Society craves for National Enquirer also, it is the best seller, sometimes their right, but many times they are exaggeratting.

It was not followed through. Dan Reeves had his say. Instead of allowing it to subside, Jerry Jones decided to say his peace, nearly immediately. Whether he likes it or not, the battles he is fighting are those he created by allowing that environment to exist in the first place. It shows how little he learned from Coach Parcells on how to handle the media.

Parcells did the best job of that, and that is the single reason I do admire Belichek.

That he did. As for the Patriots, they have just as many components as we do. Celebrity QB, mercurial WR. But for some reason, the press isn't as interested in what Brady and Bundchen do as they are what an increasingly fat Simpson is doing when she again, overmarkets herself. The marketing is what is driving the process. That comes from those involved. Instead of justing laying low, and proceeding along, there is intrigue, most of it false or constructed. It is sad that some have to become Greta Garbo to be able to do their jobs effectively, but that is the environment. Don't play the game if you don't want to get bruised.

None of them appreciate or nor how to handle the media.

The problem with Parcells was a little bad luck and being a little out of touch

Still, he was good while he was here. A botched snap away from a hell of story - make for wide right maybe

Coach Parcells was out of touch. Today's athlete that was bigger than the team was too much. There is a reason why you don't see "celebrities" on his teams. They aren't always conducive to winning. Not in today's environment.

He also couldn't grasp the marketing aspect from a player approach and probably didn't like it anyways. He is a master at media manipulation but it was about him. He should be the biggest presence. It would have never happened here. Someone would always be competing for the stage. Miami is a nice quiet environment that fits.

Until there is a period of tight-lipped seclusion, this team will not have time to heal.

Honestly, if I were Jones, I would not speak to the media until April. I would also have the players under a gag order. But that is just me.

Tell them to spend time with their families and relax and regroup in the spring.
 

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dadymat;2626394 said:
these guys arent cyborgs...they have feelings and they do get angry and they do get distracted.....and i dont play Madden


and there is a problem with your outlook...that is not the exact point...they won without him on the field ....the exact point is he put himself before the team...
he did not care that his coach was trying to call in a play, he didnt care his team mates were in battle , he did not care if his actions were a distraction, bottom line is that he didnt care that his team was at work trying to win a playoff game....all he cared about was the fact he got pulled out of the game and instead of supporting his team and cheering them on he chose to attack his coach and make a fool of himself on national TV.....he didnt even celebrate the win with his team....why? cause he was upset he didnt get used how he thought he should have been used

NO, the point is FACTUAL. The team WON. If you have a strong minded team and coaches, distractions are de minimis. (If your point is that the coaches aren't equipped to handle TO, RW and Newman, Ellis then that is another subject)

I just don't get how much stock people put in player arguements. Cardinals win that game and the Cowboys win NYG #2.

I submit Distractions + Losses are more correlated to 0.0 than 1.0.
 

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McLovin;2626407 said:
NO, the point is FACTUAL. The team WON. If you have a strong minded team and coaches, distractions are de minimis. (If your point is that the coaches aren't equipped to handle TO, RW and Newman, Ellis then that is another subject)

I just don't get how much stock people put in player arguements. Cardinals win that game and the Cowboys win NYG #2.

I submit Distractions + Losses are more correlated to 0.0 than 1.0.

I stand corrected, Az beat Philly so all is right in the world .....


I submit No distractions + character = Wins and Nation wide respect
 

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Haleys gone so it could be the Final Destination for TO.
 

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McLovin;2626336 said:
I actually dont like the any pub is good pub.

i do :beer1:


boldin is a great player but a horrible person, thanks but no thanks though in saying that i'd hate to see him in new york or worse at philly
 

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Alexander;2626296 said:
Why is this a constant complaint?

The same people who complain about the coverage, love our owner who promotes the team and does not do anything but encourage the hype to begin with.

I have never seen where the media doing their job is continually chastized.

Are they blameless, of course not. But what are they supposed to do? Ignore the highest profile team in the league and start creating in-depth reports about the inner workings of the Cincinnati Bengals?

Of course they are concerned about ratings. Do they not have to justify their jobs?

And as long as people consume the product, it will exist.

So please please please stop with the media demonization.

It is about as redundant as calling a lawyer a crook. We know, but they are executing a job that wouldn't exist if the society didn't ask for it.

Put the blame where it belongs. The more the team is marketing itself and makes itself accessible, that is where the problem lies.

Look at Kansas City. They were able to completely excise the media for weeks and hire a head coach. Nobody could even find out if anyone interviewed.

The media can be controlled. But the whole thing is, the franchise has to want to control that.

We tried under Coach Parcells and since that created "eggshells" for our owner, it has now come to this point.

Don't blame the media.

Again, look for the source of the real problem.


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I think the eagles will sign TJ What'shisname. The guy wants to play there, so they can probably get him a little cheaper than for what he'd sign w/ another team.
 

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The Panch;2625708 said:
Trade for 1st, 3rd, and 6th??

Whoops! Too late.

Tell me about it. Boldin is incredible and barring injury, had a better season that Fitz. The numbers were close anyway.
 

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punit328;2625777 said:
He is also being linked to the Giants.
I never had a problem with Boldin but , i have a bad feeling he's gonna end up in NY or Philly. I now hate the guy. TO the second

Derrick Ward will go before Jacobs for the Giants. I could see Boldin winding up in NY before Philly because NY can be a little more aggressive in the front office. Philly always seems to talk a big game about making moves, especially at the WR position, but they always wimp out at the end. Either way Boldin on any team in the NFC East other than our own would be bad. He's a stud.
 
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