Bottomline - Dak throwing 30+ pass attempts

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

the problem is, I don;t think its about Dak throwing, its whether or not our running game is working or not that game, or whether we are 2 scores behind.
you can't run on a third and seven and expect to convert third downs. you have to pass.

It's about our passing plays being too predictable. Moore calls the same plays over and over during a game. The more we run the ball, the more the defense is off balance. That stats say less Dak is better, but it's actually an indictment on play calling.

 

[aikemirv]

they came out running? what do you mean. after the turpin fumble and pollard getting stuffed twice in a row, the dynamic changed as it should

3 straight passes to start the game.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

Spot on....the only thing I can come up with is that Moore's trying to put in some throwing drives in preparation for the Bucc's whom I suspect will try and pack the pocket to stop the run.
Unfortunately, the result was (as ever) we'll struggle if we can't play off the run.

 

[blueblood70]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

He didnt play well neither did the rest of the team, you seriously going to call out Dak and not talk about the 2 Dropped Tds that were perfect passes, 3 dropped passes one tipped into an INT, 2 would have been first downs ie Washington being hit and drops that, so many poor routes, dropped passes, and mistake by the OL...

has zero to do with pass vs run balance, more about poor execution in all 4 phases, that why we had to come back and win, not the 40 passes, sorry. this was poor game of execution for the TEAM.

 

[Proof]

3 straight passes to start the game.

yeah i’m tripping, sorry. Just remembered all the runs on the opening drive and got confused

 

[aikemirv]

yeah i’m tripping, sorry. Just remembered all the runs on the opening drive and got confused

Yeah we went to it, just started really greedy - then went away from it.

 

[phildadon86]

The Texans have the worst rush defense in the league and we came out passing - I don't know what to say about that game plan other than What in the crap are you thinking Kellen - pound the rock!!

This has been happening forever. Green Bay 2016. The same team the Cowboys ran all over in Lambeau. They come out throwing the ball. Moore should have been sent packing when Garrett was. This Air Coyrell scheme needs to be burned.

 

[mardwin]

Once again the run/pass ratio got all wonky in a game. Once again, the Cowboys struggled and had to pull one out at the end.

I just don't understand what Big Mike and Kellen are thinking.

Hell, we threw on the first 4 or 5 plays of the game. RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!!!

I can answer that question for you. The coaches thinking were to get their QB in a rhythm early since he has been struggling in recent games. Dak didn't look good against the Giants and didn't look good against the Colts.

Play calling wasn't the primary issue here but execution. When your QB can't make throws with consistency it makes the game tougher than it should be.

 

[john van brocklin]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

Was hoping dak and Moore learned this when rush played.
Lean on the run and defence.
It ain't rocket science people

 

[kskboys]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

And the passing yards leader has never won the super bowl.

 

[kskboys]

They won...

Oooooh, now that is a huge point missed!!!!

 

[IceStar-D7]

Dak throws 35 times a game. We 're gonna lose in most cases. Everyone knows this except Dak and Kellen Moore 30 times IMO or less.

 

[Silverz1972]

The bigger stat is wins against non-NFC east teams. Is it from lack of doing his homework?

 

[Flamma]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

We have a lopsided win loss record when Dallas passes the ball under 30 times. But those are ideal situations when the run game is working. Rodgers only passed the ball 20 times in the Packers win against us. If your run game is getting stuffed, and you pass the ball 25 times, you're probably going to get blown out.

BTW, Elway could have had Terrel Davis and Emmitt Smith in the backfield and they still would have been trounced in those Super Bowls.

 

[bsbellomy]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

This is such a stupid stat. QB that throw a ton are throwing a lot because they are losing, that's why the record is so bad.

 

[mahoneybill]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

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Good take re Aikman, many forget Jimmy brought in Steve Walsh, as he didn’t think Aikman was the answer. Along came Emmitt and things changed.

 

[Section446]

Not a franchise QB but they keep trying to make him one. The winning formula with Dak is don't rely on him.

 

[pansophy]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

People don’t understand correlation versus cause and effect. Situation is probably the biggest factor in why Dak throws 30+. If there was cause and effect we would just run the ball 30 times in a row and win. It’s contested games that Dak has to throw more, so being 50/50 in contested games sounds about right.

 

[VaqueroTD]

People don’t understand correlation versus cause and effect. Situation is probably the biggest factor in why Dak throws 30+. If there was cause and effect we would just run the ball 30 times in a row and win. It’s contested games that Dak has to throw more, so being 50/50 in contested games sounds about right.

Aaron Rodgers 13-3 record last year, just like our team this year is headed. (Missed 1 start).
13 games over 30 attempts. Record? 11-1. 3 games under 30 attempts. Record? 1-2
Difference between Rodgers and Dak. Rodgers is a helluva better QB.

Go check Justin Fields record when throwing under 30 attempts. The NFL is full of guys who still lose when they run all the time.

Read the thread and the examples of the offense passing when they should have been running. Even if your stat theory was right, it’s all about understanding the identity of the team. Run first, rely on your good defense and ST, don’t let QB have opportunity to make more mistakes.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Everyone has seen the stats. Dak throws 30+ times, you only get a 50/50 shot at winning. You may get some great 4th quarter comebacks, or some great stats that any QB would hope for, but if Dak throws less than 30, you’re almost guaranteed to win.

I don’t care how much he’s paid, I don’t care what other quarterbacks do, I don’t care what happened to cause the interception, I don’t care about top 10 QB arguments, I just know that our team wins when it happens.

There’s no shame in it. It’s not a knock on Dak. Elway never won anything until he had Terrell Davis. Aikman followed a similar model with Emmitt. The Seahawks lost their Super Bowl when they passed instead of ran. The list goes on and on.

It’s a team game, do what makes the team win.

It’s not about how many pass attempts he gets. If the Cowboys are starting off games and the defense comes to play then we will have a good shot at winning. Dak typically throws a lot when we are starting off slow and playing behind.