BP and Supposed talented Players he's cut from the Cowboys

[jksmith269]

I keep reading how BP cuts talented players and his mistakes.. So I ask myself what player has he cut from the Boys that has gone on to have a great or really even good career since leaving?????

I keep seeing AB. If he's so good why is he with his third team since leaving. Heck he couldn't even stick in Cleveland where they need talent on Offense.

Then there is Henson. Yeah he's so talented he's still sitting on the couch..

Rob P. WE, atleast I was pulling for him heck he was the underdog but face it BP knows what he's doing. He must have seen something we haven't. So will this come back to haunt us? Doubt it there are two many other Tackles out there.


So anyone know someone we cut that is doing great? Heck how bout Good?

OH if you even say Coakley then you need to look at his stats last year his production was cut in Half 28 Tackles with 10 Assists and two sacks.

 

[trueblue1687]

I keep reading how BP cuts talented players and his mistakes.. So I ask myself what player has he cut from the Boys that has gone on to have a great or really even good career since leaving?????

I keep seeing AB. If he's so good why is he with his third team since leaving. Heck he couldn't even stick in Cleveland where they need talent on Offense.

Then there is Henson. Yeah he's so talented he's still sitting on the couch..

Rob P. WE, atleast I was pulling for him heck he was the underdog but face it BP knows what he's doing. He must have seen something we haven't. So will this come back to haunt us? Doubt it there are two many other Tackles out there.


So anyone know someone we cut that is doing great? Heck how bout Good?

OH if you even say Coakley then you need to look at his stats last year his production was cut in Half 28 Tackles with 10 Assists and two sacks.

I too was hoped Pettiti would pan out. I know what Parcells saw that alot of dreamers on here didn't (remember, I was hoping that he would improve alot): 20+ sacks allowed last year. The Pettiti lovers will all say Bledsoe is to blame for___ # of sacks (insert whatever number "feels good"). The sad fact is, with the kind of performance he put forth last year, whatever the reason, he would have to show DRASTIC improvement....which he didn't. All the folks who were so shocked Fabini stayed need to remember that Fabini has shown he don't give up 20+ sacks a year and Pettiti showed he did. I like the guy because he was an underdog, but there was a reason he was there in the 6th round.

 

[TEK2000]

Let them gripe all they want. The truth of the matter is that.. not too long ago (say 4+ years ago).. we were KEEPING players that can't even make it onto other team's rosters. Heck we had STARTERS that can't make it onto a roster.

Gripe gripe gripe and moan moan moan about Parcells all they want... all they're doing is showing a ridiculous hatred for a coach that has TREMENDOUSLY improved this team's talent level.

 

[MapleLeaf]

... BP has cut that makes me worry. It's who we have drafted then cut that's troublesome. Rogers, Peterman, Beriault, Green, Pettiti, Stanley to name a few.

On a team that was devoid of talent when BP took over we needed a little more success at the o-line positions. We made great strides on the defensive side, but heck alot of those were high draft picks.

I think that's why we have been suffering some of our o-line woes.

 

[jksmith269]

... BP has cut that makes me worry. It's who we have drafted then cut that's troublesome. Rogers, Peterman, Beriault, Green, Pettiti, Stanley to name a few.

On a team that was devoid of talent when BP took over we needed a little more success at the o-line positions. We made great strides on the defensive side, but heck alot of those were high draft picks.

I think that's why we have been suffering some of our o-line woes.

OK so are we the only team that has cut DP's from the past couple years? I don't care how good you are at judging talent you will always make mistakes (unless your Joe Trade all my Picks Gibbs) and that is the only way to not have bad picks and thats trade your picks.. I'd rather have a balance of DP's and Vets

 

[InmanRoshi]

I have yet to hear one good argument why uprading over Pettiti is a bad sign for the club.

Anyone who had any semblence of football knowledge could easily see that Pettiti just didn't have it. He was clearly god awfull last year, and he was clearly outplayed by every tackle on the roster in preseason.

People wanted the Cowboys to upgrade the position in the offseaon, and now they're upset that we didn't stick with status quo. Go figure.

 

[MapleLeaf]

OK so are we the only team that has cut DP's from the past couple years? I don't care how good you are at judging talent you will always make mistakes (unless your Joe Trade all my Picks Gibbs) and that is the only way to not have bad picks and thats trade your picks.. I'd rather have a balance of DP's and Vets

... the lineman picks that have been disappointing. Yes alot of teams miss on picks, but it seems we have missed on more lineman than anything else.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Only truly talented player that he cut that I think would be a major contributor now, outside of Glover, is Antonio Bryant. Being a knucklehead prevented him from being a "player" here. I think of everyone, that's the one I wish could've worked out.

 

[TEK2000]

... BP has cut that makes me worry. It's who we have drafted then cut that's troublesome. Rogers, Peterman, Beriault, Green, Pettiti, Stanley to name a few.

On a team that was devoid of talent when BP took over we needed a little more success at the o-line positions. We made great strides on the defensive side, but heck alot of those were high draft picks.

I think that's why we have been suffering some of our o-line woes.

There's a difference there... all of those players other than Roger and Beriault got beat out by MORE CAPABLE players. Draft Picks or not... if they can't perform as well as other guys on the team then SOMEONE is gonna have to get cut because there are only so many roster spots.

You've listed 6 draft picks... how many undrafted free agents do we have to appear to be contributors in the future? How many draft picks HAVE worked out?

I'd be interested to see the numbers on other teams' draft picks that are still with the team. I know for the pre-Parcells era for the Cowboys.. that # is in single digits for how many of those players are STILL IN THE NFL (not just "on the team")

 

[trueblue1687]

... BP has cut that makes me worry. It's who we have drafted then cut that's troublesome. Rogers, Peterman, Beriault, Green, Pettiti, Stanley to name a few.

On a team that was devoid of talent when BP took over we needed a little more success at the o-line positions. We made great strides on the defensive side, but heck alot of those were high draft picks.

I think that's why we have been suffering some of our o-line woes.

Happens with every team. It actually shows that draft position means nothing, ability does. You gotta like someone who is driven to put the best on the field. O line is a hard position to hit anyway. Think of the throngs of OL in every draft, versus who is out there on Sunday. Alot of the starters are late rounders, so evaluating talent seems to be hard across the board for OL.

 

[Chief]

People wanted the Cowboys to upgrade the position in the offseaon, and now they're upset that we didn't stick with status quo. Go figure.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[jksmith269]

Only truly talented player that he cut that I think would be a major contributor now, outside of Glover, is Antonio Bryant. Being a knucklehead prevented him from being a "player" here. I think of everyone, that's the one I wish could've worked out.

Bryant or AB I would say is decent but not a player you would consider building your receiving corps around. He would be a good 3 WR not a 1 or 2 IMO.

Now Glover was just cut along with Larry who I think has a few more decent years. Glover playing in St Louis may do good but he's on the down side of his career. So did we really loose much with his cut? I guess we will see at the end of the year but I also think both players you mention pretty much forced their own cut....

 

[WoodysGirl]

Bryant or AB I would say is decent but not a player you would consider building your receiving corps around. He would be a good 3 WR not a 1 or 2 IMO.

Now Glover was just cut along with Larry who I think has a few more decent years. Glover playing in St Louis may do good but he's on the down side of his career. So did we really loose much with his cut? I guess we will see at the end of the year but I also think both players you mention pretty much forced their own cut....

Laroi didn't force his cut, he didn't fit the scheme being implemented. But even so, the depth at NT where he used to play is shaky at best. He was too expensive as a backup, but man, the depth behind Fergie scares me.

AB is a young talented receiver. You say he'd be a good 3rd WR. He's better than Crayton, who's the current #3. My issue is that he's a decent WR who now has about 4 years of NFL experience, who unfortunately was a knucklehead.

While I'm excited about the young guys in the WR corps, if he had been able to stick, we wouldn't be depending on all that youth to contribute this year.

 

[cobra]

... BP has cut that makes me worry. It's who we have drafted then cut that's troublesome. Rogers, Peterman, Beriault, Green, Pettiti, Stanley to name a few.

What about Newman, Witten, Bradie James, Al Johnson, Romo, Canty, Nate Jones, Jacque Reeves, Julius, K. Davis, Barber, Hurd, Ware, Spears, Romo, McQ, Burnett, Ratliff, Carpenter, Fasano, Fowler, Crayton, Hatcher, McBriar, Rector, Abram Elam, Tyson Thompson, and Watkins?

I'm going to guess that you aren't "worried" about those guys.

So, it appears that you are worried that less than 50% of the rookies Parcells goes after end up not making a very talented team.

If that is, in fact, the case, then you must have an easy life. Because it is absolute nonsense to be worried because you expect a team to hit on more than 50% of its rookies. If the Cowboys aren't doing something that no other team is doing either, but yet you are "worried," then allow me to suggest you need to get some perspective.

 

[noshame]

We can throw out names all day, but we'll really need to wait 4 years before we give Parcells a final grade.

At this point, he still has alot to prove to me.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I think everyone thought when Parcells said that Petiti had a great off seasson, overhauling his body, that it would translate to the field. Apparently it didn't! Petiti would have to make significant progess to improve over last year's performance....I guess it didn't happen.

But if you are taking BP at his hiw every word, remember he also said when he signed Fabini that he wouldn't give up 20 sacks if he was playing backwards..................

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't think it's a case of the letting go of talented players but more of a case of not drafting well enough in certain areas of the team like O-line.

 

[nyyanksfan20]

What about Derek Ross? He really amounted to something.

 

[AbeBeta]

We can throw out names all day, but we'll really need to wait 4 years before we give Parcells a final grade.

At this point, he still has alot to prove to me.

At this point his final grade is becoming more and more clear -- at least in regards to cutting players. People squaked when he cut Ross and Bruce Thornton. Both of them aren't even in the league. The guy has a good eye for talent insofar as he can make some very good decisions after having a player around for a while.

 

[Novacek84]

I don't have a problem with the latest round of cuts except that I would have kept Copper (a proven commodity on special teams) over Austin. Based on performance he had to keep Rector and Hurd. He had no choice. As for Green, I would have kept him around but there just was no room because of the Hurd, Rector surprises. We've had way more hits than misses in the draft overall since Bill took over. The reason he looks bad at times is because many of the misses have come at one position : o-line. Overall I'd grade Bill's drafts out to a B average in his time here. He has definitely upgraded the talent. You can't deny that.