BPA vs Need

[NeonDeion21]

How willing would you truly believe in the BPA strategy? Lets say you believe there is a pro-bowl player at WR, do you take him? Or do you take a lesser DE, OL, or DT because it fills a need?

I ask this because I am 100% convinced there is a skill player in this draft that will be a stud on the next level. But if he were to happen to take him, all the Jerry Jones haters would scream that he doesn't know how to build a team when in fact he is just taking the BPA.

So what do you do? Take a future pro-bowler or take a chance at a player that you hope reaches that level in an area of need.

 

[RS12]

I wouldnt be suprised by anyone this FO drafted. I bet they love Patterson and Austin. I really think Garret's fate is sealed unless the get the pieces to run Kiffins defense though.

 

[Shinywalrus]

Let's say that somehow Warmack, Floyd, Richardson, Mingo, Jones, Johnson and Cooper all come off the board before 18. Would I be upset with Patterson there? Not in the slightest.

Would I be surprised if we had Patterson ranked ahead of Cooper or Johnson on our board, even if they're still there? It's certainly possible.

Honestly I just love the depth of this draft with no real top-heaviness, and the only picks that would make me throw things around the room would be Lacy, Te'o or Hankins. The others, skill players or otherwise, would be fine by me if our talent evaluators liked them.

 

[NeonDeion21]

Let's say that somehow Warmack, Floyd, Richardson, Mingo, Jones, Johnson and Cooper all come off the board before 18. Would I be upset with Patterson there? Not in the slightest.

Would I be surprised if we had Patterson ranked ahead of Cooper or Johnson on our board, even if they're still there? It's certainly possible.

Honestly I just love the depth of this draft with no real top-heaviness, and the only picks that would make me throw things around the room would be Lacy, Te'o or Hankins. The others, skill players or otherwise, would be fine by me if our talent evaluators liked them.

Here is why I ask. I think Tavon Austin is going to be a star. There is no doubt for me that he is the next Percy Harvin, except he is all about us and we instead of I and me. On my big board, Cooper and Tavon are close, but Vaccaro and Richardson are a little further down.

I would rather have Dallas take a future star and then worry about the "needs" later. In the 1st round, you need to pick the best players, not draft to fill needs.

 

[Shinywalrus]

If our scouts feel strongly that they're getting Percy Harvin, then yes, you pull the trigger on Austin. Unless you also think that Larry Allen is there, of course.

 

[dart]

you taking about Lacy

I don't know how we could pass on him

 

[NeonDeion21]

you taking about Lacy

I don't know how we could pass on him

Tavon Austin.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Well there isn't a position on this team that can't use youth or cutting a contract for that youth. You just can't let need creep too high in your draft, although the higher the pick, the more you have to consider it.

You mention Tavon, and while its not a high need, it is for the eventual cutting of Miles to save us some cap space. Really, we don't need the position on the field, but this game is much more than that and if we want to hold onto all our young stars we will have to find a way to get rid of a couple of contracts.

There will be some here who get upset over almost any pick other than the exact one that they want, but really this team can make any pick cause any pick is a need with this team. What is misunderstood is our level of talent, we need youth in every single positional group and I'm tired of reading here how we need to base our draft on some need.....if we do that it, rest assured it will be a massive fail.

Give me BPA by a landslide, even if its Tavon.....and let the Jerry haters just whine about it for the thousandth time.

 

[ceerrece]

Other player who doesn't fill a glaring need? no thanks. Only Austin would make happy.

 

[blindzebra]

My first attempt would be to trade down with a team looking for skill players. Keep in mind that this draft is thin in skill players and deep in the trenches.

That lack of skill players could mean a trade more in our favor.

We can probably land a starter at G/OT/DT or safety later in the first and the extra 3rd and 5th would do a lot for bolstering both lines.

Now if by some fluke a top 5 player is there that goes out the window, but if we are talking say the 10th-17th best player I am trading down or drafting highest rated player of a need.

 

[Avery]

We have weapons on offense, we just don't use them effectively.

 

[batman36]

OL or safety in round one, and if they think the best player was selected, them I'm okay with that.

 

[Tezz]

According to the story Cowboys missing out on Lesean Mccoy happens when you believe there is a clear difference in talent and you don't take him... JPP was drafted by the Giants when there wasn't a need either...

 

[DFWJC]

I'm not I like any WR or RB well enough to take at 18 compared to what will be there otherwise...this year. So I'm off the hook

Seriously though, this stuff is done in tiers and not a straight up list that force feeds players at exact numbered slots.

 

[xwalker]

How willing would you truly believe in the BPA strategy? Lets say you believe there is a pro-bowl player at WR, do you take him? Or do you take a lesser DE, OL, or DT because it fills a need?

I ask this because I am 100% convinced there is a skill player in this draft that will be a stud on the next level. But if he were to happen to take him, all the Jerry Jones haters would scream that he doesn't know how to build a team when in fact he is just taking the BPA.

So what do you do? Take a future pro-bowler or take a chance at a player that you hope reaches that level in an area of need.

Tavon Austin is a great player, but it's a bad idea to make a habit of drafting 5-8, 174 lbs WRs in the 1st round.

 

[Mr_Bill]

How willing would you truly believe in the BPA strategy? Lets say you believe there is a pro-bowl player at WR, do you take him? Or do you take a lesser DE, OL, or DT because it fills a need?

I ask this because I am 100% convinced there is a skill player in this draft that will be a stud on the next level. But if he were to happen to take him, all the Jerry Jones haters would scream that he doesn't know how to build a team when in fact he is just taking the BPA.

So what do you do? Take a future pro-bowler or take a chance at a player that you hope reaches that level in an area of need.

This sounds like a false choice to me.

If a player happens to fall from (say) number 6 on your list and all your other choices are ranked 15 or lower, you take the number 6 player, regardless of position.

But, if the players left to you are ranked 14, 15, 16, and 17, you take the player that best fits your need. Ranked that closely together, they should ALL be potential pro-bowlers, if they are legitimately ranked that highly in the first round.

In the specific case of the Cowboys, if that number-14-ranked player is a WR, you are throwing too many resources (both personnel- and salary-cap-wise) into one position and neglecting others of obvious need.

 

[dart]

Tavon Austin.

pass

give me Lacy

 

[JDSTAR]

Here is why I ask. I think Tavon Austin is going to be a star. There is no doubt for me that he is the next Percy Harvin, except he is all about us and we instead of I and me. On my big board, Cooper and Tavon are close, but Vaccaro and Richardson are a little further down.

I would rather have Dallas take a future star and then worry about the "needs" later. In the 1st round, you need to pick the best players, not draft to fill needs.

This,..., this is making way too much sense. Agree 100%

 

[burmafrd]

The only GM I have heard of that stuck to the BPA above all else was Matt Millen; why he kept drafting WRs. Of course that worked so well for detroit...

 

[visionary]

This sounds like a false choice to me.

If a player happens to fall from (say) number 6 on your list and all your other choices are ranked 15 or lower, you take the number 6 player, regardless of position.

But, if the players left to you are ranked 14, 15, 16, and 17, you take the player that best fits your need. Ranked that closely together, they should ALL be potential pro-bowlers, if they are legitimately ranked that highly in the first round.

In the specific case of the Cowboys, if that number-14-ranked player is a WR, you are throwing too many resources (both personnel- and salary-cap-wise) into one position and neglecting others of obvious need.

this is a great way to put it

another issue to consider is that even though everyone says "BPA is the best strategy" the reality is that the best strategy is "BPA in light of team needs"

Pure BPA is a strategy arm chair GMs have the luxury to employ, not real GMs of real NFL teams

so, if one wants to go purely BPA, then that is doable if one has addressed obvious needs in FA

so, if we address OL, DL, and safety in FA, then we can feel relatively freed up to go BPA purely in the draft, otherwise that would be a luxury most teams cannot afford

having said all this, i am not a fan of drafting a 5-8 WR in round 1 anyway

no way he is BPA on any board in round 1