News: BR: Cowboys Rumors: NFL Exec Says Cam Erving 'A Liability' Replacing La'el Collins

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This year, Dak needs to be prepared to scramble. He may very well be running for his life on every snap. But, Dak can run.
 

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Why would signing a guy as a back up OT who started 8 games for last year's SB Champion be all that puzzling?
What team a player played for has absolutely no impact on the signing. You definitely don't want to bring up his 8 starts last year when arguing it wasn't a puzzling signing haha.
The contract we gave him doesn't match his performance. He was gifted the swing tackle spot with his contract, he should be fighting for a NFL roster spot instead.
 

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What team a player played for has absolutely no impact on the signing. You definitely don't want to bring up his 8 starts last year when arguing it wasn't a puzzling signing haha.
The contract we gave him doesn't match his performance. He was gifted the swing tackle spot with his contract, he should be fighting for a NFL roster spot instead.
You didn't say it was the contract that was a problem, just the signing. And of course having experience as an NFL starter is a strong point on the resume for a backup, and it does matter that it was for a team that did well enough to win the Super Bowl. Do you really not agree that being a starter on a top NFL team carries more weight than being a starter on a 3-13 team?
 

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Another bad egg. Yet some fans want Earl Thomas too. Might as well bring in Antonio Brown as well. :rolleyes:
 

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You didn't say it was the contract that was a problem, just the signing. And of course having experience as an NFL starter is a strong point on the resume for a backup, and it does matter that it was for a team that did well enough to win the Super Bowl. Do you really not agree that being a starter on a top NFL team carries more weight than being a starter on a 3-13 team?
We needed to sign a realible swing T, because our two starting OTs aren't reliably on the field, and we went out and only signed one who has only put out negative tape over five seasons. That, with the contract that makes it where you can't sign an actual competent OT, makes it a puzzling signing.

No it absolutely does not, if that player was the main catalyst for their few losses on the season lol. That's just silly. And you keep saying starter, just so you know he was not the starter for the chiefs. He only spot started, and that went horribly.

Hope this helps!
 

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You didn't say it was the contract that was a problem, just the signing. And of course having experience as an NFL starter is a strong point on the resume for a backup, and it does matter that it was for a team that did well enough to win the Super Bowl. Do you really not agree that being a starter on a top NFL team carries more weight than being a starter on a 3-13 team?

Despite not being a starter for the Chiefs here is what you are looking at:

"Made eight starts off the bench last year, ceding a team-high five saxks and 26 pressures across 589 snaps".

Chiefs were undefeated with Erving out of the line up. Chiefs were 4-4 when Erving had to start. You really think a team winning the Super Bowl with him on the sidelines means a single thing?

Edit: also should be noted he had 7 penalties in 8 games. For reference La'el had 5 penalties in twice as many snaps. So however bad you think he's been, he's actually been worse than that.
 
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Here's hoping Cam Erving would be on a short leash if he's as poor a tackle as so many claim he is.

Also hope the coaching staff is open to utilizing Brandon Knight, in the event Cam Irving stinks it up!
 
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We needed to sign a realible swing T, because our two starting OTs aren't reliably on the field, and we went out and only signed one who has only put out negative tape over five seasons. That, with the contract that makes it where you can't sign an actual competent OT, makes it a puzzling signing.

No it absolutely does not, if that player was the main catalyst for their few losses on the season lol. That's just silly. And you keep saying starter, just so you know he was not the starter for the chiefs. He only spot started, and that went horribly.

Hope this helps!
Was he the "main catalyst for their losses", or is that just something that to say because it helps your point if true?

And I said having starting experience is a benefit for a backup player, and that he started 8 games last year, which he did. The year before he started 13 games for the Chiefs. Obviously they weren't completely comfortable with him as a starter, but we were looking for a backup, not a starter, and you don't find veteran backups that other NFL teams are completely on board with as a starter. If that were the case they wouldn't accept a backup role.
 

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Despite not being a starter for the Chiefs here is what you are looking at:

"Made eight starts off the bench last year, ceding a team-high five saxks and 26 pressures across 589 snaps".

Chiefs were undefeated with Erving out of the line up. Chiefs were 4-4 when Erving had to start. You really think a team winning the Super Bowl with him on the sidelines means a single thing?

Edit: also should be noted he had 7 penalties in 8 games. For reference La'el had 5 penalties in twice as many snaps. So however bad you think he's been, he's actually been worse than that.
Of course Collins is a better player - that's why he is the starter. How many backup OTs around the NFL are as good as Collins?
 

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Meh, he won a Super Bowl protecting Mahomes blind side, it’s up to the coaches to adapt to his deficiencies. Garrett will have to do it with an entire O line this year and it will be evident how bad they are in their first game vs Pitt.
Maybe that's why Mahomes was throwing on the run so much....which Dak often seems to do better too, so maybe it works out.
 

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Of course Collins is a better player - that's why he is the starter. How many backup OTs around the NFL are as good as Collins?

That's not what my post was arguing, just giving reference for penatlies. You know that, but are choosing to act ignorant.

I'm glad I could shed some light for you on why the Erving signing was so questionable.

Go cowboys!
 

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Was he the "main catalyst for their losses", or is that just something that to say because it helps your point if true?

And I said having starting experience is a benefit for a backup player, and that he started 8 games last year, which he did. The year before he started 13 games for the Chiefs. Obviously they weren't completely comfortable with him as a starter, but we were looking for a backup, not a starter, and you don't find veteran backups that other NFL teams are completely on board with as a starter. If that were the case they wouldn't accept a backup role.

4-4 with him stating
11-0 without him

The main catalyst

Go Cowboys!
 

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That's not what my post was arguing, just giving reference for penatlies. You know that, but are choosing to act ignorant.

I'm glad I could shed some light for you on why the Erving signing was so questionable.

Go cowboys!
You compared him to Collins. I concede you have some points, but the reality is he was signed as a backup, and like all backups, he has flaws. That's why he is a backup.
 

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I take some consolation in the fact that the Rams don't really have any fearsome outside pass rushers.
 

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4-4 with him stating
11-0 without him

The main catalyst

Go Cowboys!
It's goofy to blame all losses on one player. As if it doesn't matter that the 3 highest scoring games the Cheif's defense gave up all season were in 3 of those losses, or that Pat Mahomes was injured and Matt Moore was the QB in one of those losses, or that they only had 36 yards rushing in one of those losses.
 

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Despite not being a starter for the Chiefs here is what you are looking at:

"Made eight starts off the bench last year, ceding a team-high five saxks and 26 pressures across 589 snaps".

Chiefs were undefeated with Erving out of the line up. Chiefs were 4-4 when Erving had to start. You really think a team winning the Super Bowl with him on the sidelines means a single thing?

Edit: also should be noted he had 7 penalties in 8 games. For reference La'el had 5 penalties in twice as many snaps. So however bad you think he's been, he's actually been worse than that.
According to Football Reference, Erving only had 5 penalties, and only 4 penalties that were accepted.
 

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You compared him to Collins. I concede you have some points, but the reality is he was signed as a backup, and like all backups, he has flaws. That's why he is a backup.

There's a difference between having flaws, and having no strengths though.
 

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There's a difference between having flaws, and having no strengths though.
If he had no strengths he wouldn't have been on a team, much less have started 8 games last year and 13 games the year before. Hell, he wouldn't have been a 1st round draft pick to begin with.
 
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