BR: Tony Romo Has Not Only Been the Best Version of Himself, He Might Be the NFL MVP

[tyke1doe]

What difference does it make? You are trying to make it as if Rodgers was some 50 TD, 5,000 yard God who carried the Packers on his back to the Super Bowl. He clearly wasn't.

Also, (not just directed at you) this idea that an MVP can't come from a team with more than one MVP caliber player is extremely stupid, it's been done many times. Heck, Warner and Faulk passed the MVP between each other 3 years in a row. It's a weak argument trying to bring our guys down.

I simply asked you two questions? Do you know the answer to those questions?

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm sorry but I disagree.

We have seen this team with a healthy Murray, a healthy o-line and no Tony Romo.

Disaster.

So what would this team be like with a healthy Romo, a healthy o-line and no Murray?

Obviously, we don't know for sure. Clearly, we would not be as good without Murray. It would hurt. But I would submit to you that with a healthy o-line, the Cowboys can run enough with Randle and Dunbar to at least keep defenses honest. Randle has run for 7 yards a carry, albiet in very limited opportunities so far this year. There is no way he would do that if you gave him 20 carries, but this offense could still function with 80 or 90 yards on the ground in a given game. That should give Romo enough openings that he can move the ball.

Obviously, we are much better with Murray and I love what's he's done this year. But Romo is the MVP, IMO. This team is finished without him.

Well, we do know what we've done with a healthy Romo, a healthy offensive line and a good two-headed monster at running back. Can you say 2007.

Look, I agree Romo is the MVP for the team. But he's not going to win it for the reasons I've stated. The fact that the Cowboys have committed to the run has made Romo even better. But if you focus on that component of the Cowboys getting better, the running game stands out. That's the way the voters will see it, IMO.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Less is more with any QB.

If the QB is throwing too much, it means the running game sucks, or the team is playing from behind. The more times a QB puts the ball up, the more probabilistic it becomes to turning it over. Not just because he's throwing it more, but because of what is causing him to throw it more.

"Less is more" with a lot of things.

So, I don't know why it matters.

 

[tyke1doe]

I honestly think the running game has zero to do with Romo's success. I think PASS PROTECTION is what's contributing to Romo's success this season.

So you think if we had the same offensive strategy as last year - pass the ball - we would be where we are this season, at 10-4?

 

[tyke1doe]

Said a week or so ago that Romo should be in consideration. He's done more with less than any other QB in the league. JMO.

Well, I wouldn't say that. I think that distinction goes to Tom Brady. The Patriots continue to shuffle new wide receivers and running backs to play with him, and the man is still playing lights out.
And I wouldn't call Dez, Witten, Murray and this offensive line lesser in any way.
But I do think Romo should be considered for the MVP if the Cowboys get to 12-4, but I doubt very seriously he would get it even then.

 

[theogt]

So you think if we had the same offensive strategy as last year - pass the ball - we would be where we are this season, at 10-4?

I think we'd have as good or better a record, to be honest.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think we'd have as good or better a record, to be honest.

Based on past results, I don't. I think of the Detroit game and the Green Bay game as examples.

 

[LatinMind]

Said a week or so ago that Romo should be in consideration. He's done more with less than any other QB in the league. JMO.

more with less? you kidding me? Dallas has the best OL and top 3 RB and a top 5 WR and a top 5 TE in the NFL. But i think he should be up for consideration for the MVP. I think theyre going to give it to Watt tho

 

[jobberone]

Well, I wouldn't say that. I think that distinction goes to Tom Brady. The Patriots continue to shuffle new wide receivers and running backs to play with him, and the man is still playing lights out.
And I wouldn't call Dez, Witten, Murray and this offensive line lesser in any way.
But I do think Romo should be considered for the MVP if the Cowboys get to 12-4, but I doubt very seriously he would get it even then.

Both teams are playing better and their QBs are getting praise. Our OL is better. We still don't have the WR corp I think we should although its improving. Our defense pales compared to NE which is 8th in the NFL. NE's O is #1. I don't think many think that NE's team is on a talent level with us overall. So again I'm not talking just offensive weapons but overall team. We've seen Romo with a much worse defense and this one ain't great.

I stand by my statement although I could certainly be wrong.

 

[jobberone]

more with less? you kidding me? Dallas has the best OL and top 3 RB and a top 5 WR and a top 5 TE in the NFL. But i think he should be up for consideration for the MVP. I think theyre going to give it to Watt tho

See above. Not just offense but overall team which is what every QB should be measured with.

 

[theogt]

Based on past results, I don't. I think of the Detroit game and the Green Bay game as examples.

So, you think, if we'd merely ran more than passed in those games we would have won?

Gotta tell you, that sounds pretty absurd.

 

[RoboQB]

I skimmed through the first 7 pages of this thread and had to stop... my reason for stopping was the comical realization that
in one thread we have people saying that Romo is not even the MVP of his own team and that Murray is far more valuable
therefore, should be considered for league MVP.... yet, you can jump to another thread (actually several) and see some of the
same people telling everyone with a monitor that we shouldn't re-sign Murray because we can do just as well without him.

Ok gang, look, they're both incredibly valuable... its a good thing... we would've beaten Arizona with a healthy Romo... we also
would've lost a couple games without Murray... neither is going to win the award... both should be mentioned in consideration...
Romo won't be... which would make it all the more sweeter if he wins the SB MVP.

 

[Carolina Cowboy]

Great point to make in a MVP thread. Talk about no respect. Makes you wonder what some are thinking about. Romo deserves to be in the Pro Bowl and deserves to be in the MVP conversation also.

Amazing isn't it?

 

[tyke1doe]

So, you think, if we'd merely ran more than passed in those games we would have won?

Gotta tell you, that sounds pretty absurd.

Yes. We abandoned the running game when we got huge leads in both of those games. I'm not saying don't throw a single pass, but to abandon the running game? And, no, that's not absurd.

 

[romothesavior]

Don't know where anybody said that or inferred that.

Nope, not even close.

But, it seems to make you happy to stick your fingers in your ears and go 'LALALALALALALALALA'

Less is more with Romo. I called it a long time ago. Sorry to upset you.




YR

Who is sticking their fingers in their ears here? You've written "less is more with Romo" 20+ times in this thread as if saying it over and over and OVER makes it so. You're being intentionally dense, and tremendously grating to boot. Your posting on this subject is borderline childish.

If by "less is more" you mean having a balanced attack is a good thing, then less is more for any quarterback. If by "less is more" you mean that Romo is worse after 35+ passes in a way that other NFL QBs aren't, then you have failed to make your point with cold hard data.