Bradshaw on Roethlisberger: "He doesn't like me, and I'm learning not to like him"
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Doomsday101
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I think Bradshaw was just trying to give some good sound advice that Ben choose not to listen to
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adbutcher;3344632 said:
Before Frosty the Snowman came out of the closet.
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locked&loaded;3344271 said:
...but this is taken from another thread and the responses are attributed to Romo.
On Romo's memories of Texas Stadium: When you first get out there, you almost feel like the masters are among us in some way, in that the tradition and the history behind the place is just...I mean, you just remember so many moments, so many times, so many great, individual accomplishments and players that have come through there that it just puts you in your place a little bit and just how little you are in some ways. It's been a great experience and I can't ask for anything more for sure.
Did moving to the new stadium in Arlington last year provide a jolt for the team? Me personally, I'm a traditionalist at heart, just in the sense that I really enjoy the great players that came before, the great moments; I love to hear the stories about them. I ask Aikman about them all the time because I just really enjoy listening to stuff.
In the beginning, I was hesitant to turn over to a new place that I had never been in. I was kind of, "Gosh, I wish we could have done something with my group at Texas Stadium, I wish we could have done something special there." We could have had memories that could have gone with the rest of them but as it got closer and closer I started to follow in like everyone else. When I first went there, I mean, it was just jaw-dropping, how different it really was compared to the old one and it was just such a neat thing that you get caught up in the excitement of it because not only was it important to Jerry and the organization and people, but then you just sense that I'm a part of this first one. I'm a part of this new thing that's really unique and it just makes you feel proud to be a part of that. Hopefully we'll be able to make some great memories in this one; it was a really special moment to be there for the first game.
I don't think you can directly say that Romo says he owes something to the players who came before him, but it is safe to say that he has an emotional connection to them from the above responses.
Going out and seeking a conversation with Aikman and dredging up old stories means he feels a great responsibility to older players or else he could have just pulled a Roethlisberger and ignored someone like Aikman.
Even though they are NFL players I believe it would be hard to play numerous seasons only for the money. At some point there are other more stronger emotions and motivators that help you fight through the negatives of sports stardom. Ex. fan criticism.
Being able to connect to an older player, pull from their personal experiences and ask their advice. Doing things like that doesn't mean you owe them something, but making the connection with an older means that if you transgress the traditions that have been placed before you wouldn't you expect a disapproving glance at the very least when you pass them by in the tunnel on the way in or off the field.
As Romo has hinted he is part of the new stadium's tradition and he's has subtly let it out that he considers himself possessive in the making of a new tradition. One that the next QB of Dallas will have to follow.
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Future;3344407 said:
I think most Cowboy fans love Michael, but for me I was tired of his show.
In the end though he gets it, he knows it is not about the rings on his finger. He knows it is about who you are as a person. His Hall of Fame speech showed that he finally "got it".
I think I have more respect for Irvin now than I ever would have otherwise. I love the guy for that!
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aikemirv;3344749 said:
At one time Michael Irvin actually surpassed Roger Staubach as my Favorite player of All-Time...now he runs about 4th or so...in my view he has a very rash, consumed and prude type of a personality that most self-respecting persons would not want to be around for any real length of time.
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SilverStarCowboy;3344757 said:
...as a general rule fans want to support players who best resemble their own perceived personalities - both ability wise and moral wise.
Most fans can't turn a blind eye towards aberrant, illegal or immoral behaviour. things like wife beating, raping, drug culture, strippers, prostitutes and arrests all get in the way of a player's career and legacy in the eyes of a fan.
It's one of the reasons, as my own personal choice, I will only consider the purchase of a Staubach, Aikman, Smith, Lilly and White jersey. This stuff is going to pasted on my back and those names mean something to me and the general public who views them when I am out in society.
Irvin and Sanders were great for our franchise and they contributed greatly to the success of the team, but my sensibilities lean towards guys like Darryl Johnston and Randy White.
You can call them lunch pail guys, but I felt they played at an extremely high level in their positions and quietly made great contributions to the success of the team without the game and spotlight being solely about them.
Real studs as players and real studs as human beings. Two who I would never feel ashamed to buy my precious daughter a jersey and have her out in public wearing their names.
I have my eye on Tony Romo, Jason Witten, Felix Jones, Jay Ratliff and Demarcus Ware for the future and, given time, I hope they can be added to my personal favourites.
Although they have long ways to go though to match the feelings I have for some of the present names on my list.
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mldardy;3344258 said:
he likes the Cowboys
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WV Cowboy;3344848 said:
I don't know. I mean, you don't know what went into that decision but it's not a very common thing for a guy like Cowher to retire after having won the Super Bowl and as young as he was. That's not very common.
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Respect is a two way street and this is really kicking Roeslimeburgers when he's down. If he didn't have a problem with Bradshaw before he will now.
Like, I understand things look bad for him, but why bring this up at this time? But I guess if the media is really paying attention to it, then whateves.
Like, I understand things look bad for him, but why bring this up at this time? But I guess if the media is really paying attention to it, then whateves.
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Pittsburgh Company Cuts Ties with Roethlisberger
By JUDY BATTISTA
Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was to meet with N.F.L. Commissioner Roger Goodell Tuesday, one day after a Georgia district attorney said he would not bring sexual assault charges against Roethlisberger. But the quarterback is far from in the clear. He could be suspended either by the league or by the Steelers and the estimated $2.5 million he makes in endorsement money could dry up, too.
On Tuesday, Ty Ballou, the owner of Pittsburgh-based PLB Sports, Inc., said he is terminating his five-year business relationship with Roethlisberger. Ballou’s company, which was the maker of the famed Flutie Flakes, markets “Big Ben Beef Jerky.” Ballou, who did not disclose how much Roethlisberger was paid in the deal, said that after watching the district attorney’s news conference Monday, in which he laid out sordid details of Roethlisberger’s encounter with a 20-year-old college student, the decision was easy. In his company’s 14 years, Ballou has had many athlete endorsers — including Hines Ward, Jaromir Jagr, Ed McCaffrey and Dustin Pedroia –- and he said this is the first time he has terminated a deal.
“We’ve made a lot of money together,” Ballou said in a telephone interview. “I’m leaving a lot on the table by terminating this contract. Even thought there were no criminal charges, there are just enough issues here that it’s the best interests of PLB Sports to break ties.”
How upset is Ballou? He worked with Terrell Owens last year and said would be happy to, again.
“I can’t imagine anyone touching Ben Roethlisberger,” Ballou said. “Enough is enough. I hope there is a suspension. At some point in time, Ben has got to put himself in the right position and understand what it means to be a celebrity, a quarterback, a Steelers player.”
Roethlisberger also has a long-standing relationship with Nike, which did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday. According to this Sports Illustrated list of the “Fortunate 50” athletes, Roethlisberger made $2.5 million of his total 2009 compensation of $15.3 million from endorsements.
Ballou is a Steelers fan –- who said he also applauded the team’s decision to trade troubled receiver Santonio Holmes to the Jets — and said he met with his board on Tuesday morning and all agreed that it was time to part ways with the quarterback. He faxed the termination agreement.
“You look at this and say ‘Do we want to do this? Yes,” he said. “We don’t want to, but you have to.”
But Ballou also touched on the reason that Roethlisberger might still be in big trouble with the N.F.L.
“The Steelers, there is probably no prouder organization,” he said. “I feel for them right now. Players are part of the Steelers brand. If it’s not the biggest in the league, it’s well up there. This has diminished the brand.”
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/13/pittsburgh-company-cuts-ties-with-roethlisberger/?
By JUDY BATTISTA
Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was to meet with N.F.L. Commissioner Roger Goodell Tuesday, one day after a Georgia district attorney said he would not bring sexual assault charges against Roethlisberger. But the quarterback is far from in the clear. He could be suspended either by the league or by the Steelers and the estimated $2.5 million he makes in endorsement money could dry up, too.
On Tuesday, Ty Ballou, the owner of Pittsburgh-based PLB Sports, Inc., said he is terminating his five-year business relationship with Roethlisberger. Ballou’s company, which was the maker of the famed Flutie Flakes, markets “Big Ben Beef Jerky.” Ballou, who did not disclose how much Roethlisberger was paid in the deal, said that after watching the district attorney’s news conference Monday, in which he laid out sordid details of Roethlisberger’s encounter with a 20-year-old college student, the decision was easy. In his company’s 14 years, Ballou has had many athlete endorsers — including Hines Ward, Jaromir Jagr, Ed McCaffrey and Dustin Pedroia –- and he said this is the first time he has terminated a deal.
“We’ve made a lot of money together,” Ballou said in a telephone interview. “I’m leaving a lot on the table by terminating this contract. Even thought there were no criminal charges, there are just enough issues here that it’s the best interests of PLB Sports to break ties.”
How upset is Ballou? He worked with Terrell Owens last year and said would be happy to, again.
“I can’t imagine anyone touching Ben Roethlisberger,” Ballou said. “Enough is enough. I hope there is a suspension. At some point in time, Ben has got to put himself in the right position and understand what it means to be a celebrity, a quarterback, a Steelers player.”
Roethlisberger also has a long-standing relationship with Nike, which did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday. According to this Sports Illustrated list of the “Fortunate 50” athletes, Roethlisberger made $2.5 million of his total 2009 compensation of $15.3 million from endorsements.
Ballou is a Steelers fan –- who said he also applauded the team’s decision to trade troubled receiver Santonio Holmes to the Jets — and said he met with his board on Tuesday morning and all agreed that it was time to part ways with the quarterback. He faxed the termination agreement.
“You look at this and say ‘Do we want to do this? Yes,” he said. “We don’t want to, but you have to.”
But Ballou also touched on the reason that Roethlisberger might still be in big trouble with the N.F.L.
“The Steelers, there is probably no prouder organization,” he said. “I feel for them right now. Players are part of the Steelers brand. If it’s not the biggest in the league, it’s well up there. This has diminished the brand.”
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/13/pittsburgh-company-cuts-ties-with-roethlisberger/?