Brandon Thomas suffers torn ACL

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I would still take him in the 4th or 5th if there. Let him get healthy and be a starter in 2015. I would trade and try to get an extra 4th for him.
 

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I don't think he'll even fall to the 7th round.

If the Cowboys took him with a 5th round pick would anyone be upset?

I would've been 100% fine if he was our 2nd round pick. Now I think I'd be neutral on it if he's our 4th rounder, but pretty pumped if he's our 5th rounder. I think ultimately he lands toward the bottom of R4 to a playoff team that can afford it (i.e., SF, like others have said).
 

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Hard to take a player before the 5th round who you know will likely not play in the season.

But sixth and seventh rounds for teams that have a stable enough OL and can afford to sit him a year and wait on his rehab will probably be the route.

Considering past drafting history, he would be worth a 4th if the team likes him enough. It would beat the small school flops that usually come in the 4th, AOA, Arkin, Johnson etc.
 

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Considering past drafting history, he would be worth a 4th if the team likes him enough. It would beat the small school flops that usually come in the 4th, AOA, Arkin, Johnson etc.

I think I would take him in the 4th. I think we have enough talent on the O-line to get by this year. It'll probably mean we cut Free after this season and immediately plug in Thomas as his successor. I think a starting RT for 2015 is worth a 4th round pick.
 

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Considering past drafting history, he would be worth a 4th if the team likes him enough. It would beat the small school flops that usually come in the 4th, AOA, Arkin, Johnson etc.

I fall for it each year, I admit it.

I keep thinking that these draft choices are as valuable as they are for other teams. Thank you for reminding me about reality.
 

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I think I would take him in the 4th. I think we have enough talent on the O-line to get by this year. It'll probably mean we cut Free after this season and immediately plug in Thomas as his successor. I think a starting RT for 2015 is worth a 4th round pick.

I recall Kelvin Garmon who we chose in the seventh round. He was considered a similar prospect, possible 3rd before he had his leg broken in his senior year.

I just think the 4th round is a bit rich. But then again, we chose Matt Johnson in the 4th and appear comfortable redshirting him for two years.
 

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using a 7th on him is a no brainer...not sure I would go into the 4th or 5th as some suggest...we aren't one of the teams that can not draft for this year
 

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using a 7th on him is a no brainer...not sure I would go into the 4th or 5th as some suggest...we aren't one of the teams that can not draft for this year

I'd spend a 4th on him and let him sit for a year.

Daryn Colledge is still available and the Cowboys have the cap space. Let him come in and at worst be the reserve guard for this season.
 

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I'd spend a 4th on him and let him sit for a year.

Daryn Colledge is still available and the Cowboys have the cap space. Let him come in and at worst be the reserve guard for this season.

I like your thinking!
 

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Considering past drafting history, he would be worth a 4th if the team likes him enough. It would beat the small school flops that usually come in the 4th, AOA, Arkin, Johnson etc.

Thanks for making me sick!
 

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Dallas has a boat load of 7 rd draft picks, if he there selecting him and let him have a year to recover would be worth it

That is a best case scenario. If he was around where we literally have to burn a choice, it should be an easy decision.
 

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I don't think he'll even fall to the 7th round.

If the Cowboys took him with a 5th round pick would anyone be upset?
I agree. Tank Carradine would likely have been a mid to late 1st without the injury. He only dropped to the 2nd with the injury and was on IR all season.

I actually like the idea of taking a player that just got injured and will be on IR all season as opposed to carrying a player on the roster while he tries to comeback during the season. The extra roster spot is valuable and the player gets to rehab under the supervision of the team.

A 5th is still a bargain for this player. Most healthy 5th round pick don't contribute much as rookies anyway.
 

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We're not spending a 4th or a 5th on a player who's going to be on IR..not in a deep draft where there are other options available at those spots. At least I hope we don't.
Now, I'd bundle a couple of those 7ths to get up and take him in the 6th, maybe. That's a decent way to stash a couple of those late picks to get value down the road where we'd otherwise be taking fliers on guys who might not make the roster anyway or who we could get in CFA an hour after the draft ends.

On a side note, how much does this suck for that kid? All that leaping up draft boards...turns out, it's hard on the knees.
 

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We're not spending a 4th or a 5th on a player who's going to be on IR..not in a deep draft where there are other options available at those spots. At least I hope we don't.
Now, I'd bundle a couple of those 7ths to get up and take him in the 6th, maybe. That's a decent way to stash a couple of those late picks to get value down the road where we'd otherwise be taking fliers on guys who might not make the roster anyway or who we could get in CFA an hour after the draft ends.

On a side note, how much does this suck for that kid? All that leaping up draft boards...turns out, it's hard on the knees.

I know what you're saying. It is a deep draft and the Cowboys could end up taking a OL earlier than the 4th round... And if that happened... Well less interest in this guy.

But if the Cowboys went all defense the first 3 rounds and hadn't taken a guard by round 4... I'd consider drafting him in the 4th and red-shirting him.
 

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I know what you're saying. It is a deep draft and the Cowboys could end up taking a OL earlier than the 4th round... And if that happened... Well less interest in this guy.

But if the Cowboys went all defense the first 3 rounds and hadn't taken a guard by round 4... I'd consider drafting him in the 4th and red-shirting him.

I really like the player. Thing is, we need to get that 3rd swing-guard player someplace in the draft. Redshirting Thomas doesn't change that, so it means spending two decent picks on an OG position where you already have two relatively young starters on affordable deals. Three of our 11 picks we can't trade, so that leaves 2 of our remaining 8 spent on the OG position. I'd have a hard time justifying that.

I guess we could stash him with our 5th and then sign a vet for one season, which would be ok.

It's one thing, though, to have a guy get hurt on you. It's another to select him when he's already got a busted wheel. Unless he just represents so much more value next year--after you discount the pick for the injury and the present-value of this year's pick over next years' (usually one round of value)...I'd rather just take the highest rated healthy player on my list and move on.
 

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I really like the player. Thing is, we need to get that 3rd swing-guard player someplace in the draft. Redshirting Thomas doesn't change that, so it means spending two decent picks on an OG position where you already have two relatively young starters on affordable deals. Three of our 11 picks we can't trade, so that leaves 2 of our remaining 8 spent on the OG position. I'd have a hard time justifying that.

I guess we could stash him with our 5th and then sign a vet for one season, which would be ok.

It's one thing, though, to have a guy get hurt on you. It's another to select him when he's already got a busted wheel. Unless he just represents so much more value next year--after you discount the pick for the injury and the present-value of this year's pick over next years' (usually one round of value)...I'd rather just take the highest rated healthy player on my list and move on.

I agree that you wouldn't want to have to draft 2 guards.

It could come down to how highly rated Thomas is in the eyes of the Cowboys and how much of a draft discount they could get come next month.
 

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I really like the player. Thing is, we need to get that 3rd swing-guard player someplace in the draft. Redshirting Thomas doesn't change that, so it means spending two decent picks on an OG position where you already have two relatively young starters on affordable deals. Three of our 11 picks we can't trade, so that leaves 2 of our remaining 8 spent on the OG position. I'd have a hard time justifying that.

I guess we could stash him with our 5th and then sign a vet for one season, which would be ok.

It's one thing, though, to have a guy get hurt on you. It's another to select him when he's already got a busted wheel. Unless he just represents so much more value next year--after you discount the pick for the injury and the present-value of this year's pick over next years' (usually one round of value)...I'd rather just take the highest rated healthy player on my list and move on.

What a lot of people are neglecting is that Thomas could easily be our starting RT next year if drafted. I mean why is he a guard only after playing LT in college? He's 6'3 with 34 1/4" arms and is extremely light on his feet. I see no reason he can't play tackle.
 

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I don't think he'll even fall to the 7th round.

If the Cowboys took him with a 5th round pick would anyone be upset?

Look at how many picks Dallas and other teams have missed on in those later rounds. To take a seemingly sure bet and sit him for a year is a lot easier when you do that.

Most of the other players who will be available in the fifth stand about as much of a chance of succeeding as those who will be available in the seventh.
 
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