Breakdown on Romo contract - really 4 for 65.5

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Here’s the breakdown of Romo’s contract, not including the $25 million signing bonus:

2013: $1.5 million base salary, $11.818 million cap figure
2014: $13.5 million base salary, $21.773 million cap figure
2015: $17 million base salary, $25.273 million cap figure
2016: $8.5 million base salary, $15.135 million cap figure
2017: $14 million base salary, $19 million cap figure
2018: $19.5 million base salary, cap figure
2019: $20.5 million base salary, cap figure

With the high cap figures in 2014-15, the Cowboys can lower Romo’s base salaries to the league minimum and turn the difference into signing bonus. Such a move in 2014 could save the Cowboys $10 million in cap space but add $2.5 million to the cap figures in each of the remaining years.

In the first three years of the deal, Romo will make $57 million for a $19 million average. In the first four years of the deal, he will make $65.5 for a $16.38 average.

Without seeing the specific language, Romo was able to do well in the first three years and the team was able to do well over the first four years. Both sides would call that a win-win deal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4707104/breaking-down-tony-romos-contract


The last few years are fluff. When we get to 2016, he will have 5M left in bonus money and will be 37 years old. Much better contract when you actually know the details.
 

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Matts4313;5035620 said:
Here’s the breakdown of Romo’s contract, not including the $25 million signing bonus:

2013: $1.5 million base salary, $11.818 million cap figure
2014: $13.5 million base salary, $21.773 million cap figure
2015: $17 million base salary, $25.273 million cap figure
2016: $8.5 million base salary, $15.135 million cap figure
2017: $14 million base salary, $19 million cap figure
2018: $19.5 million base salary, cap figure
2019: $20.5 million base salary, cap figure

With the high cap figures in 2014-15, the Cowboys can lower Romo’s base salaries to the league minimum and turn the difference into signing bonus. Such a move in 2014 could save the Cowboys $10 million in cap space but add $2.5 million to the cap figures in each of the remaining years.

In the first three years of the deal, Romo will make $57 million for a $19 million average. In the first four years of the deal, he will make $65.5 for a $16.38 average.

Without seeing the specific language, Romo was able to do well in the first three years and the team was able to do well over the first four years. Both sides would call that a win-win deal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4707104/breaking-down-tony-romos-contract


The last few years are fluff. When we get to 2016, he will have 5M left in bonus money and will be 37 years old. Much better contract when you actually know the details.

Plenty of room for restructures if needed built into the contract as well. Good post!
 

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Matts4313;5035620 said:
Here’s the breakdown of Romo’s contract, not including the $25 million signing bonus:

2013: $1.5 million base salary, $11.818 million cap figure
2014: $13.5 million base salary, $21.773 million cap figure
2015: $17 million base salary, $25.273 million cap figure
2016: $8.5 million base salary, $15.135 million cap figure
2017: $14 million base salary, $19 million cap figure
2018: $19.5 million base salary, cap figure
2019: $20.5 million base salary, cap figure

With the high cap figures in 2014-15, the Cowboys can lower Romo’s base salaries to the league minimum and turn the difference into signing bonus. Such a move in 2014 could save the Cowboys $10 million in cap space but add $2.5 million to the cap figures in each of the remaining years.

In the first three years of the deal, Romo will make $57 million for a $19 million average. In the first four years of the deal, he will make $65.5 for a $16.38 average.

Without seeing the specific language, Romo was able to do well in the first three years and the team was able to do well over the first four years. Both sides would call that a win-win deal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4707104/breaking-down-tony-romos-contract


The last few years are fluff. When we get to 2016, he will have 5M left in bonus money and will be 37 years old. Much better contract when you actually know the details.

I get so tired of people believing the Joneses are idiots when it comes to the cap. Manipulating the cap, and setting themselves up for future manipulations, is one of the things they've shown themselves to be good at.
 

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Matts4313;5035620 said:
Here’s the breakdown of Romo’s contract, not including the $25 million signing bonus:

2013: $1.5 million base salary, $11.818 million cap figure
2014: $13.5 million base salary, $21.773 million cap figure
2015: $17 million base salary, $25.273 million cap figure
2016: $8.5 million base salary, $15.135 million cap figure
2017: $14 million base salary, $19 million cap figure
2018: $19.5 million base salary, cap figure
2019: $20.5 million base salary, cap figure

With the high cap figures in 2014-15, the Cowboys can lower Romo’s base salaries to the league minimum and turn the difference into signing bonus. Such a move in 2014 could save the Cowboys $10 million in cap space but add $2.5 million to the cap figures in each of the remaining years.

In the first three years of the deal, Romo will make $57 million for a $19 million average. In the first four years of the deal, he will make $65.5 for a $16.38 average.

Without seeing the specific language, Romo was able to do well in the first three years and the team was able to do well over the first four years. Both sides would call that a win-win deal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4707104/breaking-down-tony-romos-contract


The last few years are fluff. When we get to 2016, he will have 5M left in bonus money and will be 37 years old. Much better contract when you actually know the details.

This is not a god contract for us and i don't like it.

- I doubt Romo will play with 37 at a level he played 2 years ago.
- This deal is set up to be restructered next year. We will push $10mill at min. to SB. The following years looks the same. So even if we cut him in 2016 we will have to eat alot more then $5mills. Make that between $10 and $17.5mills and you are close.
- What will we do if he delines in two years ?

Really bad contract for us. No point where we are able to pull the rip cord. I have to admit i never really liked Romo as a player (way too funny and not serious enough about his job). But i was ok with his play for the most part of his career.

Romo never was a great QB in my eyes but i thought of him as a team player and a good human beeing. I guess i have no more arguments for that kind of view anymore. With the way the whole contract negotiations went and when i have to look at the contract details i have to admit this guy did everything to get rid of my sympathy for him.

But thats what happens when you don't mangage your cap well. You make yourself so dependent that you are at the mercy of your players. And that's never good.
 

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TwentyOne;5035697 said:
This is not a god contract for us and i don't like it.

- I doubt Romo will play with 37 at a level he played 2 years ago.
- This deal is set up to be restructered next year. We will push $10mill at min. to SB. The following years looks the same. So even if we cut him in 2016 we will have to eat alot more then $5mills. Make that between $10 and $17.5mills and you are close.
- What will we do if he delines in two years ?

Really bad contract for us. No point where we are able to pull the rip cord. I have to admit i never really liked Romo as a player (way too funny and not serious enough about his job). But i was ok with his play for the most part of his career.

Romo never was a great QB in my eyes but i thought of him as a team player and a good human beeing. I guess i have no more arguments for that kind of view anymore. With the way the whole contract negotiations went and when i have to look at the contract details i have to admit this guy did everything to get rid of my sympathy for him.

But thats what happens when you don't mangage your cap well. You make yourself so dependent that you are at the mercy of your players. And that's never good.

This is literally the most inaccurate and illogical post I've ever encountered on this board.
 

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I think you are looking for issues that wont be there. even in your scenario - after the 2016 season when we would be cutting him - we have exactly 5 people under contract right now. And there is a good chance that all 5 would be gone at that time:

Romo
Witten
Ratliff
Carr
L.P.
 

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gimmesix;5035680 said:
I get so tired of people believing the Joneses are idiots when it comes to the cap. Manipulating the cap, and setting themselves up for future manipulations, is one of the things they've shown themselves to be good at.

The way they "manipulate" the cap was used that way before they did it. To copy an idea does not apply to me as being good at something.

Being in cap hell every year and being at the mercy of your players does not speak for their talent either.

Alot of people try to put S.Jones in a light as if he were a cap guru. I don't think so of him. If he were our cap figures would have looked else. I guess most of them have no other positives to say about him which make them shiver and therefore have to find something to hold on to.
 

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TheRomoSexual;5035704 said:
This is literally the most inaccurate and illogical post I've ever encountered on this board.

But your are not able to post arguments against it ?
 

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TwentyOne;5035697 said:
This is not a god contract for us and i don't like it.

- I doubt Romo will play with 37 at a level he played 2 years ago.
- This deal is set up to be restructered next year. We will push $10mill at min. to SB. The following years looks the same. So even if we cut him in 2016 we will have to eat alot more then $5mills. Make that between $10 and $17.5mills and you are close.
- What will we do if he delines in two years ?

Really bad contract for us. No point where we are able to pull the rip cord. I have to admit i never really liked Romo as a player (way too funny and not serious enough about his job). But i was ok with his play for the most part of his career.

Romo never was a great QB in my eyes but i thought of him as a team player and a good human beeing. I guess i have no more arguments for that kind of view anymore. With the way the whole contract negotiations went and when i have to look at the contract details i have to admit this guy did everything to get rid of my sympathy for him.

But thats what happens when you don't mangage your cap well. You make yourself so dependent that you are at the mercy of your players. And that's never good.


Uhhhhh.. Really?
 

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Matts4313;5035710 said:
I think you are looking for issues that wont be there. even in your scenario - after the 2016 season when we would be cutting him - we have exactly 5 people under contract right now. And there is a good chance that all 5 would be gone at that time:

Romo
Witten
Ratliff
Carr
L.P.

Even in 2016 the Dallas Cowboys are willing to put a team on the field i guess. So to think we will have to have 51 players. All with contracts under their bellies....

And you missed my point. With this contract you won't be able to cut Romo in 2016 without bringing you in same cap hell you were this year (and the year before ....)
 

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Matts4313;5035718 said:
Either you have a terrible memory or you are lying for effect. Which is it?

There are alot more possibilities then those two. Either you are not clever enough to figure them out or you are lying for effect. Which is it ?
 

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TwentyOne;5035735 said:
There are alot more possibilities then those two. Either you are not clever enough to figure them out or you are lying for effect. Which is it ?


TwentyOne;5035727 said:
without bringing you in same cap hell you were this year (and the year before ....)


... You do realize that we had plenty of cap room last year, right? We signed 1 big FA deal and a couple mid-level ones... And carried like 5M over... All with a 5M penalty???


????


:confused:
 

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Matts4313;5035756 said:
... You do realize that we had plenty of cap room last year, right? We signed 1 big FA deal and a couple mid-level ones... And carried like 5M over... All with a 5M penalty???


????


:confused:

Stop bringing facts into the conversation. :banghead:
 

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Each time you restructure you increase the dead money that will be due when the player is off the team, provided they don't play out the entire contract. This in addition to raising the cap price for each of the following years. They'd be better off to just have him play it out.
 

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gimmesix;5035680 said:
I get so tired of people believing the Joneses are idiots when it comes to the cap. Manipulating the cap, and setting themselves up for future manipulations, is one of the things they've shown themselves to be good at.

OMG:eek:

You have got to be kidding me:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I take it you think Jerry learned his lesson from the early 2000's???

Let's just say....People are gonna wish for 5-11 seasons of hope after this is over.

I expect the year 2020 to see the light of day after this year.

Hopefully Jerry will be gone and the new ownership will reign.
 

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Floaty;5035856 said:
OMG:eek:

You have got to be kidding me:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I take it you think Jerry learned his lesson from the early 2000's???

Let's just say....People are gonna wish for 5-11 seasons of hope after this is over.

I expect the year 2020 to see the light of day after this year.

Hopefully Jerry will be gone be then and new ownership will reign.

You show absolutely no understanding of the mechanics of the cap. The Joneses have been manipulating it for years. It's all about setting up the contracts right so there's a balance in dropping players off the cap (and absorbing the dead money) and adding players or extending contracts.

One day my hope is that people around here will understand that. Clearly, today is not that day.
 
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