Breaking down Coaching options

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Before we start lemme say these are largely subjective.
Everyone's stomach for various faults or preferences for certain characteristics will be slightly different.
That doesn't mean we can't agree on some basic truths tho so let's get rolling.

The Departed:
Ron Rivera -- Rivera is a tad overrated. He only had 3 seasons out of 9 where he finished at .500 or better, umm that's kinda terrible. He did have some real highs int here like the 15-1 season. But in the 4 season's since then 6,11,7,5(through 13 weeks when fired).
That's simply not very good results but he does know defense and he does bring in a team toughness.
Paired with a great offensive mind good things could happen.

Jason Garrett -- Redball had 10 seasons and only finished below .500 ONE TIME! That's actually very impressive. But there are some "issues". Lack of playoff success is ultimately the key one but he also was simply pretty bad as the offensive mind except where Romo really called the game via audible. As a walk-around CEO type in Dallas you are really managed by a "Board". In short, walk-around CEO types are not ideal in Dallas. JG will land somewhere but it better not be as head coach in Dallas. I'm honestly not sure why he would want that thankless job anyway. Its no win for him.

The Known interviews:
Marvin Lewis -- Lewis is 60 and has been around forever. He has a .500ish record for his career but an 0-7 playoff record. Coaching that long and not getting a single playoff win is really hard to do. Hiring him would result in your stadium being burned in most NFL cities. BUT he does have some elite defensive ties. He came up as the LB coach in Pittsburgh than the DC for the Elite Ravens defense. If Lewis was coming in to be the DC and you could place a Sean Lee under him as LB coach and DC in waiting that is a very Cowboys type move. And no one burns the stadium down. Not much to say here except this was either meet the Rooney Rule, drive the fanbase further crazy for fun, or to discuss defensive openings.

Mike McCarthy --- MM has to be called Eninem if he gets hired here right? He's by far the most decorated coaching candidate having went to 4 NFC Champ Games and winning 1 Lombardi trophy. Now any Packers fan will gladly rattle off how glad they were he's gone. But I dare say they are more than a bit spoiled having been the best NFC team during the period MM coached them.
All that said there's always warts. No one this battle-tested has come though without some.
McCarthy is an "old-head". He had a 13 year run in GB. He is going to be tied to offense from the 90s because we move on quickly. He was under .,500 his final two seasons in GB. Aaron Rodgers hated him at the end.
All that said, AR hates everyone including his own family. His dip in play hasn't vanished with a new hire they've simply relied on him far less.
He did have a year off which I like. It refreshes people and lets them clear their heads. He took some of that time to seriously study analytics. He learned about the data that is collected and became a BIG FAN. He has a full on required data department anywhere he goes.

The Hopefuls:
Wink Martindale -- Wink is the DC for the Baltimore Ravens who appear poised for a long playoff run. His defense has been excellent. Issues? Galore for me.
Wink has been a DC only 2 seasons. Any DC would look pretty good with Baltimore running the ball and controlling the clock at the rate they have this year. I'm a fan of a possible defensive coach hire but this bird needs some more seasoning imho.

Greg Roman -- Staying in Baltimore the offensive there is a thing of beauty. Lamar is picking people apart with legs and arm to the tune of NFL MVP status. Easy to love what Roman has done. But he's been the OC only 1 season. And he has a pretty sad run in NY with the Jets. He does have some skins however and was solid with Kaep in San Fran a decade ago. Roman will get a shot somewhere but I'm not a huge fan of one year mega leaps.

Josh McDaniels -- Josh is a very bright offensive mind. He's been able to appease a demanding Belichek for a long time. He's won lots of Lombardi's in Boston. All that said he comes with warts as well. He was pretty bad in Denver as a Head Coach and then backed out on the Indy job which cost us our DC.... He's also a pretty surly guy who learned his media approach from BB.

The Longshots:
Calling all college coaches longshots as we've been told they aren't on the immediate radar.

Urban Meyer -- My gut says Urban chatter is all driven by his agent. He is a big name but has no real NFL ties and a tarnished compliance rep w the NCAA. But he is a big-time winner. He's won at every stop and does so quickly. If you want a cut throat nothing matters but winning guy he's a good option. You simply have to put up with any NCAA to NFL learning curve.

Lincoln Riley -- Lincoln I know well enough from afar. He was a Red Raider walk on and is an Air Raid protege of Mike Leach. He's likable and very hard working. He's had OU atop the Big 12 for his entire tenure on that campus both as OC then as HC. Warts are relative youth and how heavily OU has relied on it's offense to win games. Something you really can't do in the NFL. Right now he feels like an Andy Reid ceiling type guy. Really good but never great.

Matt Rhule -- Matt would actually my choice of college hires. He was a Penn St Linebacker that has grown into an offensive coach. He has brief NFL experience has been a program maker. He elevates all areas of the programs he takes over O, D and ST. I suspect he is hired very shortly but not in Dallas.

My gut has said for a while now(before we knew he'd be interviewed) that Mike McCarthy would be the choice. He's got the skins on the wall Jerry respects and he has a properly crafted interview speech with slideshows about how he'd innovate and use data. But again those warts that Green bay fans see aren't lost on Jerry and Stephen. I'm just not sure the Jones' can have such a high bar as to take all that success for granted.
 

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Jason Garrett -- Redball had 10 seasons and only finished below .500 ONE TIME! That's actually very impressive.
He only had 5 winning seasons in 10 years and that includes the partial season when he took over for Wade.

Otherwise you could say he had 4 winning seasons out of 9 in which he was the HC for a full season. Not impressive.
 

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Before we start lemme say these are largely subjective.
Everyone's stomach for various faults or preferences for certain characteristics will be slightly different.
That doesn't mean we can't agree on some basic truths tho so let's get rolling.

The Departed:
Ron Rivera -- Rivera is a tad overrated. He only had 3 seasons out of 9 where he finished at .500 or better, umm that's kinda terrible. He did have some real highs int here like the 15-1 season. But in the 4 season's since then 6,11,7,5(through 13 weeks when fired).
That's simply not very good results but he does know defense and he does bring in a team toughness.
Paired with a great offensive mind good things could happen.

Jason Garrett -- Redball had 10 seasons and only finished below .500 ONE TIME! That's actually very impressive. But there are some "issues". Lack of playoff success is ultimately the key one but he also was simply pretty bad as the offensive mind except where Romo really called the game via audible. As a walk-around CEO type in Dallas you are really managed by a "Board". In short, walk-around CEO types are not ideal in Dallas. JG will land somewhere but it better not be as head coach in Dallas. I'm honestly not sure why he would want that thankless job anyway. Its no win for him.

The Known interviews:
Marvin Lewis -- Lewis is 60 and has been around forever. He has a .500ish record for his career but an 0-7 playoff record. Coaching that long and not getting a single playoff win is really hard to do. Hiring him would result in your stadium being burned in most NFL cities. BUT he does have some elite defensive ties. He came up as the LB coach in Pittsburgh than the DC for the Elite Ravens defense. If Lewis was coming in to be the DC and you could place a Sean Lee under him as LB coach and DC in waiting that is a very Cowboys type move. And no one burns the stadium down. Not much to say here except this was either meet the Rooney Rule, drive the fanbase further crazy for fun, or to discuss defensive openings.

Mike McCarthy --- MM has to be called Eninem if he gets hired here right? He's by far the most decorated coaching candidate having went to 4 NFC Champ Games and winning 1 Lombardi trophy. Now any Packers fan will gladly rattle off how glad they were he's gone. But I dare say they are more than a bit spoiled having been the best NFC team during the period MM coached them.
All that said there's always warts. No one this battle-tested has come though without some.
McCarthy is an "old-head". He had a 13 year run in GB. He is going to be tied to offense from the 90s because we move on quickly. He was under .,500 his final two seasons in GB. Aaron Rodgers hated him at the end.
All that said, AR hates everyone including his own family. His dip in play hasn't vanished with a new hire they've simply relied on him far less.
He did have a year off which I like. It refreshes people and lets them clear their heads. He took some of that time to seriously study analytics. He learned about the data that is collected and became a BIG FAN. He has a full on required data department anywhere he goes.

The Hopefuls:
Wink Martindale -- Wink is the DC for the Baltimore Ravens who appear poised for a long playoff run. His defense has been excellent. Issues? Galore for me.
Wink has been a DC only 2 seasons. Any DC would look pretty good with Baltimore running the ball and controlling the clock at the rate they have this year. I'm a fan of a possible defensive coach hire but this bird needs some more seasoning imho.

Greg Roman -- Staying in Baltimore the offensive there is a thing of beauty. Lamar is picking people apart with legs and arm to the tune of NFL MVP status. Easy to love what Roman has done. But he's been the OC only 1 season. And he has a pretty sad run in NY with the Jets. He does have some skins however and was solid with Kaep in San Fran a decade ago. Roman will get a shot somewhere but I'm not a huge fan of one year mega leaps.

Josh McDaniels -- Josh is a very bright offensive mind. He's been able to appease a demanding Belichek for a long time. He's won lots of Lombardi's in Boston. All that said he comes with warts as well. He was pretty bad in Denver as a Head Coach and then backed out on the Indy job which cost us our DC.... He's also a pretty surly guy who learned his media approach from BB.

The Longshots:
Calling all college coaches longshots as we've been told they aren't on the immediate radar.

Urban Meyer -- My gut says Urban chatter is all driven by his agent. He is a big name but has no real NFL ties and a tarnished compliance rep w the NCAA. But he is a big-time winner. He's won at every stop and does so quickly. If you want a cut throat nothing matters but winning guy he's a good option. You simply have to put up with any NCAA to NFL learning curve.

Lincoln Riley -- Lincoln I know well enough from afar. He was a Red Raider walk on and is an Air Raid protege of Mike Leach. He's likable and very hard working. He's had OU atop the Big 12 for his entire tenure on that campus both as OC then as HC. Warts are relative youth and how heavily OU has relied on it's offense to win games. Something you really can't do in the NFL. Right now he feels like an Andy Reid ceiling type guy. Really good but never great.

Matt Rhule -- Matt would actually my choice of college hires. He was a Penn St Linebacker that has grown into an offensive coach. He has brief NFL experience has been a program maker. He elevates all areas of the programs he takes over O, D and ST. I suspect he is hired very shortly but not in Dallas.

My gut has said for a while now(before we knew he'd be interviewed) that Mike McCarthy would be the choice. He's got the skins on the wall Jerry respects and he has a properly crafted interview speech with slideshows about how he'd innovate and use data. But again those warts that Green bay fans see aren't lost on Jerry and Stephen. I'm just not sure the Jones' can have such a high bar as to take all that success for granted.
Would like an established proven winner headcoach.
If we cant get billicheck or peyton,
McCarthy is a nice consolation prize!
 

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I think a vet team with playoff aspirations needs a vet nfl coach. This is not a situation you bring in a Jim Harbaugh/Chip Kelly Type nor a Kyle Shanahan/Sean Mcvay Type.

Mccarthy is exactly the type of coach they need right now. McDaniels might work, but I think Arians last summer was the golden opportunity.
 

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I think a vet team with playoff aspirations needs a vet nfl coach. This is not a situation you bring in a Jim Harbaugh/Chip Kelly Type nor a Kyle Shanahan/Sean Mcvay Type.

Mccarthy is exactly the type of coach they need right now
He’s never struck me as “tough” or “mean” which is the biggest thing this team is missing now. He’s definitely a football X’s and O’s genius but how is he as a leader? Get guys to focus on details all the way to the whistle.
 

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He’s never struck me as “tough” or “mean” which is the biggest thing this team is missing now. He’s definitely a football X’s and O’s genius but how is he as a leader? Get guys to focus on details all the way to the whistle.

Not him specifically, but his type, his experience level. Someone who can talk down to 30 year old men making 10m$+ a year. You’re not gonna get that out of Riley.
 

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He only had 5 winning seasons in 10 years and that includes the partial season when he took over for Wade.

Otherwise you could say he had 4 winning seasons out of 9 in which he was the HC for a full season. Not impressive.
It would be 3 winning seasons if you take out 2017 when we went all out in a worthless week 17 game. Only Garrett would pad coaching wins.
 

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Urban Meyer, this is the guy I want. Yes I want Cut Throat nothing matters but winning kinda guy.

He's won at every stop and does so quickly. If you want a cut throat nothing matters but winning guy he's a good option
 

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I think the media is making too big a deal about someone like Urban Meyer wanting full control.

Especially when it comes to player acquisitions. It is hard to believe Marinelli would have gotten Hill and Taco if Jerry ruled the draft with an iron fist.

If they go with a guy like McDaniels, McCarthy or Greg Roman they better find the right defensive coordinator or it is going to be more of the same.
 

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I think a vet team with playoff aspirations needs a vet nfl coach. This is not a situation you bring in a Jim Harbaugh/Chip Kelly Type nor a Kyle Shanahan/Sean Mcvay Type.

Mccarthy is exactly the type of coach they need right now. McDaniels might work, but I think Arians last summer was the golden opportunity.

Harbaugh is actually in a different category - he’s been a successful NFL Coach that took his teams to multiple Conference Championship Games
 

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He’s never struck me as “tough” or “mean” which is the biggest thing this team is missing now. He’s definitely a football X’s and O’s genius but how is he as a leader? Get guys to focus on details all the way to the whistle.
Tough and mean is overrated
 

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Harbaugh is actually in a different category - he’s been a successful NFL Coach that took his teams to multiple Conference Championship Games

Before he was hired he wasn’t, I meant at the time SF interviewed him he was just a college HC with potential
 
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