BREAKING NEWS... Tags: "CBA talks are OFF"...

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  • The NFLPA has a demand on the table that is not realistic with our financial situation.
  • We are indeed deadlocked because of the excessive demands.
  • There is no need to have further deliberations at this point. This was agreed on by 100% of the owners. Talks are broken off.

NEW YORK -- NFL owners voted unanimously Thursday to break off talks with the players' union on a contract extension, leaving the current salary cap in place with the start of free agency looming and possibly forcing the mass dumping of veterans.

The owners, who met for 57 minutes Thursday morning, endorsed a recommendation by their management council executive committee to reject the union's latest proposal.

NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue said the financial demands made by the players were unacceptable.

"We are indeed deadlocked," Tagliabue said.

The breakdown of talks left intact, for now, a salary cap of $94.5 million. The two sides had hoped to add $10 million to $15 million to the 2006 salary cap. Without the additional room, some teams could be forced into wholesale cuts to get beneath the cap by midnight. Free agency starts Friday.

"Without an agreement with the union on an extension, the league year will begin as scheduled at midnight Thursday under the current terms of the CBA," the league said Wednesday in a statement.

Owners did not seem inclined to cut into the difference of 4 percentage points between the sides. New England owner Robert Kraft had suggested that the meeting Thursday morning might be short, just enough time to rubber stamp the executive committee's decision.

One reason was that revenue sharing, a point of contention among the owners, was not on the agenda, at least not at the start. The union insists that is needed for agreement and some owners agree.

Asked if there could be a deal without it, Buffalo's Ralph Wilson simply said no.

Three days of talks between the league and the NFL Players Association to extend the agreement that runs out in 2008 ended Tuesday with the sides far apart on the percentage of league revenues earmarked for players.

Gene Upshaw, the union's executive director, said the league is offering 56.2 percent of its total revenue for the players, almost four points lower than the union's idea.

"Our number has to start with a six," Upshaw said.

But beyond the numbers is an issue that has divided the owners for two years: revenue sharing among the teams.

Under the current system, some teams make far more than others in ancillary income, ranging from local radio rights to stadium naming rights and advertising. The lower-revenue teams say that forces them to commit as much as 70 percent of that money to the players while teams with more outside money contribute far less, giving the high-revenue teams more available cash for upfront bonuses to free agents.

Under the current agreement, 2006 is scheduled to be the last year with a salary cap. An uncapped year in 2007 means new rules that will force teams and agents to change their plans this year and could keep a lot of teams out of the free-agent market entirely.

"It might mean that no rookies get signed because no one is sure of the long-term ramifications," said Tom Condon, the agent for a number of the game's top players.

Even more urgent are salary-cap ramifications for many teams, which anticipated a labor agreement and planned for a much bigger ceiling. Washington, for example, could be as much as $25 million over the salary cap after signings over the past few years that anticipated a salary cap figure well over $100 million.

The ramifications of a lower than anticipated cap were evident Wednesday, when some high-priced veterans were cut. Among them were defensive end Trevor Pryce and running back Mike Anderson of Denver, the team's leading rusher last season. Denver also cut tight end Jeb Putzier.

Buffalo, meanwhile, released defensive tackle Sam Adams, and Carolina released three veterans: running back Stephen Davis, defensive tackle Brentson Buckner and kicker returner Rod Smart, "He Hate Me" of old XFL days.

Miami cut left tackle Damion McIntosh, saving $3.8 million against the cap, and former Pro Bowl cornerback Sam Madison. The Dolphins are a prime example of a team that needs a new labor agreement: They are estimated to be about $9 million over a $95 million cap.
 

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OH my...

THIS is going to be an interesting next few days.
 

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All I can say is WOW.......not a surprise but still.
 

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MrPhil said:
All I can say is WOW.......not a surprise but still.
WOW is right. even a 'Holy goal post, batman' would be warrented in this case.
 

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trickblue said:
On 1310 The Ticket...

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  • The NFLPA has a demand on the table that is not realistic with our financial situation.
  • We are indeed deadlocked because of the excessive demands.
  • There is no need to have further deliberations at this point. This was agreed on by 100% of the owners. Talks are broken off.

Hey trickblue,

Isn't this good news for Cowboy fans from the perspective that we are a big $$$$ market and Mr. Jones will buy us a team kinda like the Yankees do in baseball?

At this point, I want to win #6 before any other team....and the window of opportunity is fading......and the Steelers are catching up
 

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Could this end up in another "Scab" season? Or will they just play without a CBA?
 

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Welcome to the media feeding frenzy. The chum is in the water and the sharks are circling.
 

mbanx

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I really thought somebody would cave in the 11th hour. Well the tickers should be busy today with all the cuts to be made.
 

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Not really news. Upshaw declared the talks dead back on Tuesday by stating he was going back to Washington because it was pointless for him to be in NY when nothing was going to get accomplished.


Rich........
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
Hey trickblue,

Isn't this good news for Cowboy fans from the perspective that we are a big $$$$ market and Mr. Jones will buy us a team kinda like the Yankees do in baseball?

At this point, I want to win #6 before any other team....and the window of opportunity is fading......and the Steelers are catching up

So can Snyder and Kraft...
 

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So do the skins get the screws turned on em or not?

thats the one question I want answered.

I know we are gunna be ok either way this thing unfolds. But I also heard the skins could be screwed or let off a hook depending on how it went down.

So how does this go down?
 

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Thank you god for killing Snyder and his DeadSkins and all they're fans at ExtremeSkins also!!

YAAAYYY!!!!

Go get 'em Jerruh!! Thius was our master plan all along!!
 

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Ashwynn said:
So do the skins get the screws turned on em or not?

thats the one question I want answered.

lol, I was thinking the same thing.
 

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Ashwynn said:
So do the skins get the screws turned on em or not?

thats the one question I want answered.

I know we are gunna be ok either way this thing unfolds. But I also heard the skins could be screwed or let off a hook depending on how it went down.

So how does this go down?

Personally I think they will work out some kind of "Grandfather Clause" to save some teams...
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
Hey trickblue,

Isn't this good news for Cowboy fans from the perspective that we are a big $$$$ market and Mr. Jones will buy us a team kinda like the Yankees do in baseball?

At this point, I want to win #6 before any other team....and the window of opportunity is fading......and the Steelers are catching up

I still maintain that an uncapped league won't result in one team being assured to be the "Yankees of the NFL."

In baseball you essentially have 3 teams now that are in their own league when it comes to $$$ they spend in the FA market. They are the Yankees, Red Sox, and Mets.

You'll get a few stray teams that will spend tons of cash for a couple of years or so like the Angels, Rangers, Braves, etc. But over the long haul they can't compete money wise.

Anyway, the difference in the NFL is there's probably about 10 teams that can compete in a race compared to MLB's 3 teams. There will most likely be a discrepency in competition from the big market teams and the small market teams. But there's just more big market teams out there so it guarantees the Skins and Cowboys nothing.

Rich................
still hoping and believing that they will come to an agreement down the road before they go to an uncapped year.
 

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There's still a cap this year, so the foreskins are going to have to dump a lot of players. Next year, if I'm remembering correctly, there won't be a cap. Next year is the year of the greenbacks.
 

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trickblue said:
Personally I think they will work out some kind of "Grandfather Clause" to save some teams...

The players can thank Upshaw it is not the NFL or the owners fault.
 

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Do I understand that basically as soon as somebody was cut we could sign them? Lets say, hypothetically, Washington cuts Arrington at noon could the Cowboys sign him at 1:00? This is just an example off the top of my head.
 
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