Brian Waters would be as vital as Melton

Galian Beast

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If we can get Brian Waters to return for another year, we could draft a guard in the first three rounds.

Our offensive line would look like this

Smith - Rookie G - Frederick - Waters - Free
Parnell - Leary - Bernadeau - (Bernadeau) - Weems

In 2015 we could draft a Tackle in the first three rounds and our offensive line would look like this

Smith - 2nd Yr G - Frederick - Leary - Rookie T


Money spent on Smith would be offset by releasing Free in 2015.

Game over for Romo if Leary and Bernadeau are our starting guards going into the year....
 

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If we can get Brian Waters to return for another year, we could draft a guard in the first three rounds.

Our offensive line would look like this

Smith - Rookie G - Frederick - Waters - Free
Parnell - Leary - Bernadeau - (Bernadeau) - Weems

In 2015 we could draft a Tackle in the first three rounds and our offensive line would look like this

Smith - 2nd Yr G - Frederick - Leary - Rookie T


Money spent on Smith would be offset by releasing Free in 2015.

Game over for Romo if Leary and Bernadeau are our starting guards going into the year....

I think Dallas will start out with Leary and Bernadeau as the starters THEN lure Waters back out of retirement if needed.

Of course, I apparently don't think Leary or Bernadeau were as bad as you seem to. Both struggled at times, but not to the point where replacing them is a must.
 

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No... Not interested. Too old. The cap space can be used elsewhere. In addition Bernadeau played well last season.

And finally I do think the Cowboys draft a guard to supply depth.

In addition it has been said that he (Waters) hasn't even had the needed surgery to his arm as of yet.
 

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If we can get Brian Waters to return for another year, we could draft a guard in the first three rounds.

Our offensive line would look like this

Smith - Rookie G - Frederick - Waters - Free
Parnell - Leary - Bernadeau - (Bernadeau) - Weems

In 2015 we could draft a Tackle in the first three rounds and our offensive line would look like this

Smith - 2nd Yr G - Frederick - Leary - Rookie T


Money spent on Smith would be offset by releasing Free in 2015.

Game over for Romo if Leary and Bernadeau are our starting guards going into the year....

Only way i would take Waters at this stage is if he signs soon and goes to camp. Not this crap like last season where he skips camp and then signs. Hard to get away from the country club preception when you allow 1 guy to do his own thing.
 

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If we can get Brian Waters to return for another year, we could draft a guard in the first three rounds.

Our offensive line would look like this

Smith - Rookie G - Frederick - Waters - Free
Parnell - Leary - Bernadeau - (Bernadeau) - Weems

In 2015 we could draft a Tackle in the first three rounds and our offensive line would look like this

Smith - 2nd Yr G - Frederick - Leary - Rookie T


Money spent on Smith would be offset by releasing Free in 2015.

Game over for Romo if Leary and Bernadeau are our starting guards going into the year....

I don't understand this. So you have Leary in our future plans but you don't want him anywhere near the field this year? That makes no sense. There's no consistency in your logic. You're willing to rely on rookies the next two years (a OG in 2014, a OT in 2015) but you're not willing to rely on a 2nd year Leary who you are willing to rely on for the future starting in his 3rd year?
 

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No, not necessary. Bernadeau actually passed as an NFL guard last year. The Cowboys can win with him in the lineup until a rookie is ready; but I doubt Dallas will address this position (outside of depth) until 2015.
 

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Brian Waters' veteran minimum number is too cost prohibitive at this juncture. It's time to move on and go a different direction, particularly with how well the offensive line played down the stretch.

Bernadeau came into his own, and Ron Leary looked like a seasoned veteran. The only position I would look to upgrade would be Doug Free if he doesn't "return to form" this year (though it was more the fact that he wasn't Marc Colombo that year he got some PT).
 

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I would love to have Waters, but last I heard he needed surgery to play and didn't have it scheduled.
 

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I don't understand this. So you have Leary in our future plans but you don't want him anywhere near the field this year? That makes no sense. There's no consistency in your logic. You're willing to rely on rookies the next two years (a OG in 2014, a OT in 2015) but you're not willing to rely on a 2nd year Leary who you are willing to rely on for the future starting in his 3rd year?

I think Leary is serviceable, but I don't necessarily want to rely on him and pencil him in as a starter right now. I think you can draft a guy who could be better than Leary, and I think Waters is better than Leary. I think getting one last year out of Waters is worth his price.

Somehow Bernadeau not being as bad as he was last year has convinced people that he is good to go for the future... I'm not one of those people.
 

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I think Leary is serviceable, but I don't necessarily want to rely on him and pencil him in as a starter right now. I think you can draft a guy who could be better than Leary, and I think Waters is better than Leary. I think getting one last year out of Waters is worth his price.

Somehow Bernadeau not being as bad as he was last year has convinced people that he is good to go for the future... I'm not one of those people.

Bernardeau actually graded out about the same as Waters if not better. It's amazing how people's perception of players will never change sometimes regardless of how they perform.
 

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There's no telling what he would have left even if he can play.

G should be high up on our list of needs. Leary can't be counted on and Bernadeau is a JAG best fit for backup duty. You don't settle for a player like him.
 

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U want a 37 year old who couldn't make it through 1/2 the season last year? Why because u think we're going to b a contender? Is there a new version of the secret sauce? Amazing
 

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No, im not even under the impression we are making the playoffs, but even to start building this team up, this is a waste of money. Last year was a bad idea, this year is a worse idea. Just let him retire and lets get another guy in that spot. I feel Callahan can make the line work.
 

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Love ya Galian. But I will disagree. We got better without Waters. Just sayin.
 

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The draft will afford us a guard fairly early, especially with the signing of Melton. I'd think the 3rd round or so might be a probable spot to draft one. Waters was useful last year but he's another year older and his arm still hasn't been fixed. Besides, this team needs to continue with its youth movement. There's really no point in pursuing an old and too expensive addition in Waters now.
 
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