Bring in Chucky

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I've always found him overrated. His fire and brimstone might work for a while but I think it wears off then you are left with an average coach.
 

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Yeagermeister;4793209 said:
I've always found him overrated. His fire and brimstone might work for a while but I think it wears off then you are left with an average coach.

I think he is a good HC but his record is 95 and 81 and walked into a Dungy defense in Tampa that was already playing championship quality ball. I like Gruden and if one day he was coaching in Dallas I would give him the same respect and time to get the job done as I would any HC.

I don't consider Garrett some coaching guru but I do think he should get the needed time to do the job.
 

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Cogan;4793032 said:
If I'm not the only one, then I guess I have a valid point. If all you can do is criticize without offering your own assessment, you're not much of a critical thinker, as you are accusing me of.

I am oft to criticize threads which are reproductions of countless previous submissions, ‘discussed’ ad nauseam. Do not take personal offense; it simply makes me feel better about the degeneration of this board and the fanbase in general.
 

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Why do any of you believe Gruden could lower his ego to the point where he could work under Jerry Jones?

This is as likely as trading Costa, Arkin, Livings, Dockery, Dexter Coakley and a 5th to SF for Goodwin, Iupati and Smith (Justin not Alex).
 

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Change coaches again? Long term success can't be achieved by doing that every couple of years. Tom Landry proved that.
 

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Mr Cowboy;4793018 said:
You're about a week late to the lynching, let's move on the next game. If it happens again this week join the lynching on Monday, don't wait til Friday.

:laugh1: :lmao2:
 

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Doomsday101;4793073 said:
Would Chucky get more than 2 years before people complained about him as well? :laugh2:

yes,he is not dumb like Garrett.
 

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Doomsday101;4793283 said:
I don't think Garrett is dumb. I like Chuck but he did not get fired for nothing.

I get coaches make mistakes but i like them to learn from their mistakes and Garrett has not shown he is capable of that.
 

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reddyuta;4793289 said:
I get coaches make mistakes but i like them to learn from their mistakes and Garrett has not shown he is capable of that.

That is your view.
 

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Doomsday101;4793088 said:
Seems more times than not coaches do not walk in and win right off the bat as they bring their system and player to run it. Right now I don't think there is a coach Dallas could hire where fans who want to win so badly, they will not give anyone time to put it together before they want to run them off and hire yet another HC. After all coaching is easy putting a team together is easy anyone can do it based on views here.

When things keep getting worse under a new coach without any signs of improvement or what improvement there is is offset by new problems that aren't getting corrected, then that coach will be complained about.

Of course there are always those exceptions, but I think if a new coach with credentials and gravitas came in here, most fans would be okay if it took a down season, and then real improvements could be seen each year thereafter.

Garrett has had a number of seasons as OC where the offense has actually been getting worse each year. Add to that he doesn't seem to be learning very fast if at all thus far as HC, particularly with time management. So he gets grilled.

I was aboard the Gruden train before Red got the head gig before, so I'd be extremely happy with him (he's at least entertaining to me though I imagine some find his demeanor aggravating) and has won a Superbowl so isn't a complete HC chump.

I agree however that Jerry will give Garrett more than just this year no matter the record. He has stated numerous times one of his biggest regrets is not giving Chan Gailey more time as HC before jetisoning him so he'll give Garrett more time IMO.
 

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Dhragon;4793296 said:
When things keep getting worse under a new coach without any signs of improvement or what improvement there is is offset by new problems that aren't getting corrected, then that coach will be complained about.

Of course there are always those exceptions, but I think if a new coach with credentials and gravitas came in here, most fans would be okay if it took a down season, and then real improvements could be seen each year thereafter.

Garrett has had a number of seasons as OC where the offense has actually been getting worse each year. Add to that he doesn't seem to be learning very fast if at all thus far as HC, particularly with time management. So he gets grilled.

I was aboard the Gruden train before Red got the head gig before, so I'd be extremely happy with him (he's at least entertaining to me though I imagine some find his demeanor aggravating) and has won a Superbowl so isn't a complete HC chump.

I agree however that Jerry will give Garrett more than just this year no matter the record. He has stated numerous times one of his biggest regrets is not giving Chan Gailey more time as HC before jetisoning him so he'll give Garrett more time IMO.

And I think Jerry is right. You hire a HC you give him time, the peanut gallery would not know their butt from a hole the wall. Hell one day Coughlin is on the hot seat becaue NY fans are complaining next he is a SB winning coach. Worse thing any owner can do is listen to fans.

Places like this clearly are for people to vent and to give their opinions but fans who think they can run a team is a pure and utter joke.

As for Gruden I think he is a good HC he has had his share of success and failure and if one day he became the HC here I would support him and hope he would be given the time to make the changes he felt he needed to make and to get the player in he felt he needed to win with.
 

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I think if the Cowboys are not a playoff team this year or next, Garrett will be gone. His success will come with another team
 

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Doomsday101;4793302 said:
And I think Jerry is right. You hire a HC you give him time, the peanut gallery would not know their butt from a hole the wall. Hell one day Coughlin is on the hot seat becaue NY fans are complaining next he is a SB winning coach. Worse thing any owner can do is listen to fans.

Places like this clearly are for people to vent and to give their opinions but fans who think they can run a team is a pure and utter joke.

As for Gruden I think he is a good HC he has had his share of success and failure and if one day he became the HC here I would support him and hope he would be given the time to make the changes he felt he needed to make and to get the player in he felt he needed to win with.

It might indeed be the best thing to keep Garrett as HC. He might very well turn out to be a very good one. But then again he might not. Gambling either way I guess. I just feel the safer bet would be to go Gruden or Cowher or someone else who could get Parcells-type control from Jerry (if that is even an option - Jerry might never be willing to go that route again, no matter what. Yes men might be all we'll ever get again. And if that's the case, we really would be better off sticking with Garrett, warts and all).
 

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The Quest for Six;4793265 said:
Gruden was thee most over rated headcoach in football, his act is a shtick..

I have to turn the volume off to watch MNF. He exudes overbearing machismo with each sentence fragment he utters; but, if it works to turn this franchise around, by all means bring him in. Egghead doesn't seem to be working......
 

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Doomsday101;4793302 said:
Hell one day Coughlin is on the hot seat becaue NY fans are complaining next he is a SB winning coach. Worse thing any owner can do is listen to fans.
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All coaches will lose games from time to time, but does Coughlin make repeated elementary time management errors that cost his teams wins?
 

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Cogan;4793017 said:
After the Raven's fiasco, it is time to say goodbye to Jason Garrett. Time after time, he's shown that he has no clue how to manage the clock, or inspire his troops. Send Decamillas packing with him.

If I were running the team, I would be on the next plane to John Gruden's place, or wherever the next MNF game is going to be played & offer him double what he's making for 5 years. Just watching him as a coach & competitor, along with his interviews of QBs before each of the last few drafts, I would love for him to represent the Cowboys.

Gruden makes ME want to run through walls, & I'm 57! He can challenge & inspire at the same time. If he owns a watch, he can manage the clock better than Garrett. Most of all, he would bring back the intensity that has been missing in Dallas, especially at the QB position. Chuuckee! Chuuckee!
Sorry, Gruden is no better than Switzer. He inherited a team someone else built, held it together for a year then slowly drove it into the ground.
 

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IMO the RHG should, and will get another year. I have never been a big Chucy fan and would prefer Cowher.
 

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links18;4793313 said:
All coaches will lose games from time to time, but does Coughlin make repeated elementary time management errors that cost his teams wins?

Coughlin as many HC have made questionable calls and done things the fans did not agree with. As far as the last game, would I have liked to see the Cowboys get in better range yes but I also know we were in range and the kick needed to be made plain and simple, that is what the kicker is paid for
 
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