Broaddus said team not interested in Janoris Jenkins

TheCount;4425562 said:
I don't think it even makes it to the board if he says "In my opinion" vs "Team sources" which alone is incentive to say sources.

Regardless, my issue is that he doesn't bother to caution his statement as to who the team is high or low on by saying it's close to the draft, this could be a smoke screen. He did the same thing last year.

But it isn't even "close to the draft" yet. We haven't even had the combine. Jerry definitely does some smokescreening when he starts talking about players a few weeks before the draft, but we're at least another month from that point.
 
RoyTheHammer;4425358 said:
Jenkins is as talented a CB as any in the draft, if not more.

Wont matter who you put back there if the pass rush doesnt improve. Also if a premium position guy gets kicked out of a "win at all costs" SEC school, it tells you alot.
 
RS12;4425626 said:
Wont matter who you put back there if the pass rush doesnt improve. Also if a premium position guy gets kicked out of a "win at all costs" SEC school, it tells you alot.

How he played in college tells me alot. He's just as talented a cover guy as Claiborne. He's the cream of the crop at CB in this draft, better than Kirkpatrick, Gilmore, Minnifield, Johnson, Boykins, or anyone else.
 
RoyTheHammer;4425667 said:
How he played in college tells me alot. He's just as talented a cover guy as Claiborne. He's the cream of the crop at CB in this draft, better than Kirkpatrick, Gilmore, Minnifield, Johnson, Boykins, or anyone else.

I do happen to agree with you on the talent level here but on a personal note, if you were making this call, would you draft him over any of those guys given his off field issues?
 
speedkilz88;4425563 said:
Why can't guys get it? If a player has a red flag involving drugs the Cowboys take them off the board. Jerry has said this for years, they have been burned too many times and are done with that kind of gambling.

stop it
 
RoyTheHammer;4425667 said:
How he played in college tells me alot. He's just as talented a cover guy as Claiborne. He's the cream of the crop at CB in this draft, better than Kirkpatrick, Gilmore, Minnifield, Johnson, Boykins, or anyone else.

Agreed
 
Tex;4425394 said:
The problem with this statement is there were probably only a very very few players with drug concerns that were also considered ELITE and available when they picked. Which sort of takes care of their decision making process most of the time. I think the interview process and background checks that come during the combine and after are going to settle this question and Im just not convinced the guy is off everyones draft boards at this time. If he runs a cooking 40 time at the combine as many seem to think he will, and he aces his interviews I think he will go top 10 to 15 easily.

Lots of kids do stupid things in College. He seems to PERHAPS of learned from his mistakes. I would want to have a LONG talk with this kid and do my background checks with coachs etc... but right now he would be the number two cornerback on my board and actually very close to number one depending on the scheme you run.

The combine will be the world to this kid. He could ace a top pick or tumble badly.

didn't answer the question
 
speedkilz88;4425563 said:
Why can't guys get it? If a player has a red flag involving drugs the Cowboys take them off the board. Jerry has said this for years, they have been burned too many times and are done with that kind of gambling.

I keep asking for someone that we were seriously looking at drafting that had known drug concerns. No one wants to answer. The actual number is ZERO.
 
RoyTheHammer;4425667 said:
How he played in college tells me alot. He's just as talented a cover guy as Claiborne. He's the cream of the crop at CB in this draft, better than Kirkpatrick, Gilmore, Minnifield, Johnson, Boykins, or anyone else.

I certainly like him over most of those players, especially Minnifield.
 
supercowboy8;4425249 said:
and don't forget about Hosley's vertical which he will display with his 73 inch wing span. He has the same wing span of Calvin Johnson with a higher vertical. After the combine Hosley will be a top 2nd if not late 1st round pick.

I think you meant 83" not 73" for Calvin Johnson.

If Hosley's WS is 73" then it is on the low side for DBs at the senior bowl. If it is 83", then that is incredible for a 5'10" player.
 
BraveHeartFan;4425674 said:
I do happen to agree with you on the talent level here but on a personal note, if you were making this call, would you draft him over any of those guys given his off field issues?

I may. I haven't looked into his background over the past year or two, or interviewed him, so i really don't have the information necessary to make that call. If i thought he had learned from his mistakes he made in collge, then hell yes i would draft him.

However, i was just pointing out to those doubting his talent level that he's as good as it gets in this draft.
 
burmafrd;4425688 said:
didn't answer the question

Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem. If they had no one that was a drug user rated highest on their board when they choose then it proves nothing. The only way your statement means anything is if you can name players the Cowboys passed up, that you know would of been the highest rated player on their board otherwise. Lack of opportunity does not prove anything.

The Cowboys also have not choose an OG in the first round in many years. Doesnt mean they wont this year if he is their highest rated player on the board at 14.

Tex
 
xwalker;4425811 said:
I think you meant 83" not 73" for Calvin Johnson.

If Hosley's WS is 73" then it is on the low side for DBs at the senior bowl. If it is 83", then that is incredible for a 5'10" player.

No, you're right, Hosley does not have a 83" wingspan. supercowboy8 is incorrect with that info.
 
Tex;4425825 said:
Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem. If they had no one that was a drug user rated highest on their board when they choose then it proves nothing. The only way your statement means anything is if you can name players the Cowboys passed up, that you know would of been the highest rated player on their board otherwise. Lack of opportunity does not prove anything.

The Cowboys also have not choose an OG in the first round in many years. Doesnt mean they wont this year if he is their highest rated player on the board at 14.

Tex

the only one with a comprehension problem is you. Jerruh does not touch anyone with a drug problem. Pac Man, Tank, etc were never into drugs. Show me someone we got close to that had a drug problem that was known. You will not be able to find one because it has never happened.
 
burmafrd;4425869 said:
the only one with a comprehension problem is you. Jerruh does not touch anyone with a drug problem. Pac Man, Tank, etc were never into drugs. Show me someone we got close to that had a drug problem that was known. You will not be able to find one because it has never happened.

Burm.. come on now. You can't be serious with this man.
 
burmafrd;4425869 said:
the only one with a comprehension problem is you. Jerruh does not touch anyone with a drug problem. Pac Man, Tank, etc were never into drugs. Show me someone we got close to that had a drug problem that was known. You will not be able to find one because it has never happened.

Quincy Carter. Granted that was some years ago but you asked for one. Also we drafted Al Johnson who had a DUI iirc.
 
burmafrd;4425702 said:
I keep asking for someone that we were seriously looking at drafting that had known drug concerns. No one wants to answer. The actual number is ZERO.

Al Johnson was a known multiple DUI offender and he was drafted in the 2nd round.
 
Hell, when we were dominating the league in the 90's half the team was doing cocaine and smoking weed. To say Jerry has never tolerated drugs or any other kind of nonsense with players on this team is hilarious.
 
RoyTheHammer;4426407 said:
Hell, when we were dominating the league in the 90's half the team was doing cocaine and smoking weed. To say Jerry has never tolerated drugs or any other kind of nonsense with players on this team is hilarious.

I don't think anyone has made that claim. They're saying he hasn't over the last several years, presumably as a function of the weed and coke days of the 90s. And what we seem to have drudged up over the last ten years is one guy with one DUI.

This doesn't prove that Jerry won't touch guys who have dabbled in weed no matter what but it does show that he hasn't chosen them of late. That seems pretty clear. (And it certainly has nothing to do with the practicality and morality of weed prohibition in general, a point you and I agree on completely.)

He's not my guy but I'm not ruling out Jenkins getting selected by the Cowboys. I do think it's unlikely, at least for now.

On edit: one guy with one DUI and Quincy Carter. But Carter is going back several years as well.
 
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