Broaddus/Voch: Saints coaches/playcallers came prepared; Cowboys didn't

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You telling me the plan was for Diggs to start off the game giving Shaheed a 15 yard cushion then the plan shifted to having Diggs run off the side of the field if the run play comes his way.

You telling me the plan was for Parsons not to worry about setting an edge if it is a run play let the guy blow by him.

The plan was for CeeDee to drop the ball in the end zone if a bigger stronger man comes along.

The plan is for Dak to throw his patented lame duck lob over the middle for the INT.

The plan is for fat Zeke to lay down for a rest whenever he gets back to the LOS.

All the planning in the world will not make up for a lack of effort from the players.
 

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I myself like Mike, but if you want to hire a Kubiak as HC next year, fine.

Just don't expect him to remake Dak into a new player after nine years. Dak has the power to accept or reject whatever he wants on offense anyway -- even more so now with the new contract.
 

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You telling me the plan was for Diggs to start off the game giving Shaheed a 15 yard cushion then the plan shifted to having Diggs run off the side of the field if the run play comes his way.

You telling me the plan was for Parsons not to worry about setting an edge if it is a run play let the guy blow by him.

The plan was for CeeDee to drop the ball in the end zone if a bigger stronger man comes along.

The plan is for Dak to throw his patented lame duck lob over the middle for the INT.

The plan is for fat Zeke to lay down for a rest whenever he gets back to the LOS.

All the planning in the world will not make up for a lack of effort from the players.
What lame duck lob did Dak throw over the middle? I saw some hard thrown balls where 2 got intercepted because Jalen Brooks fell down during his route and Dak forced the ball to CeeDee in desperation late in the game during the second interception.

Agreed on the players not showing up to play being a key contributor to yesterday's loss, but the coaching and lack of in-game adjustments did not help either. Our coaches were clearly outcoached by younger and more decisive Saints coaches.
 

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I'm not a coach, but usually when a team is being dominated like it was usually you either mix it up or try something new to stop what hasn't been working, GOOD coaches make adjustments all the time
I get what you're saying but we literally had two deep safeties on a 70 yard bomb to Shaheed. Do you bring another safety in the box after that to help with the run? You had LBs getting bulldozed left and right. You had no one who could set the edge nonetheless keep contain. You had DTs pushed 3 yards off the ball every play. People think what NO did was this super creative modern offensive scheme, but it really wasnt. They ran an offense based out of 1998. When you're getting that abused physically against both the run and the pass there is literally no scheme to help. I just dont think people understand how bullied this Cowboys team, especially the defense was yesterday.
 

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Gut-punching analysis by Bryan Broaddus and Voch Lombardi. The Saints coaches/playcallers came prepared for the game vs Cowboys. The Cowboys coaches/playcallers were totally unprepared and outcoached.



Jerry Jones might need to consider hiring young coaches from yearly successful programs like the Shanahan or Reid tree.

What say you?

:popcorn:

Exactly !! We need a young, modern, aggressive mind from the Shanahan or Reid tree.
 

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Exactly !! We need a young, modern, aggressive mind from the Shanahan or Reid tree.
We won't get one because of Jerry. Jerry won't hire a coach he isn't comfortable with and those young coaches will want too much control for Jerry's comfort. We've seen this time and again. Players need to be held accountable and that is the antithesis of the Jerry way.
 

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Anybody else notice something different about Prescott. It seems like he can’t see over the line. It’s not that he can’t read a defense, he can’t see the defense twice. He jumped off the ground to throw the football. That’s why he’s floating it to the outside. He has to get it over the defender. The Pits are getting taller and he’s getting shorter.
Yeah, Prescott used to be 6’2” now hes 5’8”

Weird
 

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Gut-punching analysis by Bryan Broaddus and Voch Lombardi. The Saints coaches/playcallers came prepared for the game vs Cowboys. The Cowboys coaches/playcallers were totally unprepared and outcoached.



Jerry Jones might need to consider hiring young coaches from yearly successful programs like the Shanahan or Reid tree.

What say you?

:popcorn:

Yeah agree, the Jones boys have liked status quo experienced coaches. Wade and McCarthy and a home grown Garrett in the middle who never proved anything to get the job. If McCarthy can't get it done this year time to look towards college or the hot upcoming coordinator on a successful team.

It's pretty amazing the Cowboys have had the most success with college coaches, but we haven't gone back there since Chan Gailey who was canned after an 8-8 season. Jones used to exercise a lot less patience with coaches but stuck with Garrett for a crazy amount of time.
 

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Were the cowboys outcoached? Sure.

That being said. There also isn’t a scheme that says “get pushed off the LOS, 5 yards down the field.”

There is no scheme for “don’t set the edge”

There is no scheme for “ miss tackles”.

The players were straight awful on Sunday.
But the salient question is, why all these failures? Why did the players individually and collectively fail so demonstratively?

The reality is it’s not just one thing - it’s a collection of some players not executing, some players not qualified, opponents out-scheming (coaching) and a culture of non-accountability. All that points to a front office failure.
 

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Out coached, out played, Out classed
but we signed dak and lamb for 100 mil a year !! Same 2 guys who were here for the last home game disaster.
Sure glad we got them signed! What a relief !!
And good thing we didnt fire mike ! what would we do without him ?
 

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one thing is NO has new HC and new OC, they seem to be pretty good, and they fit with derek carr good.

Derek has scored points on all 15 possesions of this season ! That is amazing. They havent punted lol.

I am happy for derek, as he has been thru some crap and been with crappy coaches. Now he gets to shine, lets see if it continues.
 

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here is another good short video that is about the game , 1 of the guys, one on far left had predicted dallas would have problems
defending against NO.
 

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Were the cowboys outcoached? Sure.

That being said. There also isn’t a scheme that says “get pushed off the LOS, 5 yards down the field.”

There is no scheme for “don’t set the edge”

There is no scheme for “ miss tackles”.

The players were straight awful on Sunday.
I agree with one of my neighbors who thought the Cowboys' defensive players were thinking too much. The way he put it, and I agree, the Saints didn't play fast, the Cowboys played slow.

I noticed a thread where Dez thinks Zimm isn't playing to players' strengths. It's too early to call it but we'll see....
 

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I agree with one of my neighbors who thought the Cowboys' defensive players were thinking too much. The way he put it, and I agree, the Saints didn't play fast, the Cowboys played slow.

I noticed a thread where Dez thinks Zimm isn't playing to players' strengths. It's too early to call it but we'll see....

I agree with all that. But the players also just got pushed around on defense too. It was a combo of both IMO. Which is why the saints won so dominantly.
 

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Gut-punching analysis by Bryan Broaddus and Voch Lombardi. The Saints coaches/playcallers came prepared for the game vs Cowboys. The Cowboys coaches/playcallers were totally unprepared and outcoached.



Jerry Jones might need to consider hiring young coaches from yearly successful programs like the Shanahan or Reid tree.

What say you?

:popcorn:

Broads is a broken record, how bout the players just got outplayed, the game plan was good.
 

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No lies were told in that analysis.. The Cowboys were OUT-COACHED, OUT-SCHEMED, and OUT-PLAYED all game long. The defense was over-matched and didn't appear to make any adjustments. The offense moved the ball but couldn't score TOUCH DOWNS!! You don't pay a QB $231,000,000 to settle for field goals when your team needs to score TD's.
 
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