Brugler targets 5 prospects that fit the Cowboys in the mid 1st round

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Jerry and company appears to give the coaches a say in the draft room. Sam Williams was a Quinn pick, Schoonmaker was a McCarthy pick, and of course Zeke was Garrett’s pick. Coaches have some say with the Cowboys.
I have no idea if that’s true or not but again changes nothing for me…take the best talent.


Drafting for needs or types is usually
where we’ve messed up in the draft.
 

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Bond's got the juice. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him run 4.4 flat with some silly jump numbers.

I don't know if I like Burden or Bond more as a prospect. Burden's shiftier, but Bond is a straight-line rocket. They both look like WR2 types to me.
 

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I have no idea if that’s true or not but again changes nothing for me…take the best talent.


Drafting for needs or types is usually
where we’ve messed up in the draft.
The point is there is a reason Zeke came back and was the number 1 running back early in the season. Sadly it probably was not McCarthy’s call. Most of the board wants BPA but we know that is not going to happen. The new coach will give us some insight on what the plan is.
 

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I disagree strongly that NT is a bigger need than 3 tech.

Osa and Gholston are UFAs. Even if they were to be re-signed, neither are a two way difference maker, IE stout vs the run and pass.
While there's little chance of Graham falling now to Dallas, he is an easy pick if he were to slide.

Pass rush and run stopping ability 3 tech >>>> Big fat NT.

Nose tackles, unless you can get a Vea Vita/Wilfork type of impact NT, aren't worth a high draft pick. Most are just 2 down guys.
Mazi had the athletics that teams thought could be molded to be a 3 down NT.
 

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I disagree strongly that NT is a bigger need than 3 tech.

Osa and Gholston are UFAs. Even if they were to be re-signed, neither are a two way difference maker, IE stout vs the run and pass.
While there's little chance of Graham falling now to Dallas, he is an easy pick if he were to slide.

Pass rush and run stopping ability 3 tech >>>> Big fat NT.

Nose tackles, unless you can get a Vea Vita/Wilfork type of impact NT, aren't worth a high draft pick. Most are just 2 down guys.
Mazi had the athletics that teams thought could be molded to be a 3 down NT.
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Well you have the Jerry factor…I’m sure he influenced the Zeke over Rico decision earlier in the year.
 

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We need DT talent period…I don’t care if it’s 3T or 1T just need some young talent to add to the room.

Agree on the 1Ts - don’t think there is that 1st round stud in this class but guys like Grahams and Harmon do seem to have versatility to play both…you just don’t want them eating double teams all game.


I disagree strongly that NT is a bigger need than 3 tech.

Osa and Gholston are UFAs. Even if they were to be re-signed, neither are a two way difference maker, IE stout vs the run and pass.
While there's little chance of Graham falling now to Dallas, he is an easy pick if he were to slide.

Pass rush and run stopping ability 3 tech >>>> Big fat NT.

Nose tackles, unless you can get a Vea Vita/Wilfork type of impact NT, aren't worth a high draft pick. Most are just 2 down guys.
Mazi had the athletics that teams thought could be molded to be a 3 down NT.
 

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Graham will be long gone by the time we pick and so will that the DE from Penn St ( Carter I believe his name is). The guy that really intrigues me is the Georgia lb/ DE Walker. Appears to have a high football IQ, great skills, hard worker and every time I have watched he seems to just standout.
Long gone? What team do you guys see picking him too 10? Because I I don’t see one.
 

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We need DT talent period…I don’t care if it’s 3T or 1T just need some young talent to add to the room.

Agree on the 1Ts - don’t think there is that 1st round stud in this class but guys like Grahams and Harmon do seem to have versatility to play both…you just don’t want them eating double teams all game.
For sure. It's still pretty bleak after years of spending a 1st, a 2nd, and handful of 3's on it going back to 2016.

Was just saying if Graham fell, he's the pick 1 second on the clock, as he projects as a 3 tech that should be able to do it all, potentially at a high level.

The draft class seems to have quite a few DT's in general with high upside. Just don't see NT as a bigger need than 3 tech in a vacuum. Mainly, cause at the moment we have 0 3 techs for 2025 and this team is cheap, so if Osa walks, I doubt they are even signing a mid level DT to replace him
 

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Bond's got the juice. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him run 4.4 flat with some silly jump numbers.

I don't know if I like Burden or Bond more as a prospect. Burden's shiftier, but Bond is a straight-line rocket. They both look like WR2 types to me.
Are you saying that in Dallas they look like WR2 types? Because with a top 15 pick I need a wr1 type.
 

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The Graham hype is confusing. He's not quinnen Williams so I don't get the guaranteed top 10 talk
Yeah I don’t buy this long gone stuff he’s not a generational prospect like Carter or like you said Quinnen Williams….long gone is a stretch. I could see 12 to 19 range. If he’s gone before we pick then that means a chance a better player will fall a spot.
 

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For sure. It's still pretty bleak after years of spending a 1st, a 2nd, and handful of 3's on it going back to 2016.

Was just saying if Graham fell, he's the pick 1 second on the clock, as he projects as a 3 tech that should be able to do it all, potentially at a high level.

The draft class seems to have quite a few DT's in general with high upside. Just don't see NT as a bigger need than 3 tech in a vacuum. Mainly, cause at the moment we have 0 3 techs for 2025 and this team is cheap, so if Osa walks, I doubt they are even signing a mid level DT to replace him
For a team that doesn’t value free agency and wants to get better through the draft they need to not address running back until later. Same goes for DT.

The right decision is to trade down and get Hampton or pick a RB later….but I also believe in not forcing it. If the option is Jeanty or offensive linemen then get Jeanty.
 

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For sure. It's still pretty bleak after years of spending a 1st, a 2nd, and handful of 3's on it going back to 2016.

Was just saying if Graham fell, he's the pick 1 second on the clock, as he projects as a 3 tech that should be able to do it all, potentially at a high level.

The draft class seems to have quite a few DT's in general with high upside. Just don't see NT as a bigger need than 3 tech in a vacuum. Mainly, cause at the moment we have 0 3 techs for 2025 and this team is cheap, so if Osa walks, I doubt they are even signing a mid level DT to replace him
I’d like to see us resign someone like Linval and see what the draft pick from Auburn have. Both true 1Ts.

Grant and the kid from OSU are probably your best 1T prospects but they don’t warrant a top 15 pick.
 

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Well you have the Jerry factor…I’m sure he influenced the Zeke over Rico decision earlier in the year.
I really hope the rumor or suspicions are not true. I have my doubts because of the Romo/Dak situation in 2016 because it was clear Jerry wanted Romo back in at quarterback. Now that would piss me off.
 

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Are you saying that in Dallas they look like WR2 types? Because with a top 15 pick I need a wr1 type.
That dude's not available to us this year. Tet is a high-volume #1 type, but is a top 10 cinch. Travis Hunter can make some impossible plays at WR, but he's a top 3 cinch. After that, I just see a bunch of second bananas.
 

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That dude's not available to us this year. Tet is a high-volume #1 type, but is a top 10 cinch. Travis Hunter can make some impossible plays at WR, but he's a top 3 cinch. After that, I just see a bunch of second bananas.
That’s why I’m not taking one…in the first. Best receiver in this draft might end up being a second or rounder….nothing like this last class with Thomas, Nabers, Harrison…..

Hunter I can’t stand behind because while he’s an elite talent I don’t know if he’s an elite corner or receiver. Gonna be fun to find out.

We need a premiere day one starter with that pick. Not a project. But we need him at position of need as well and a position we can’t get that type of talent later in the draft.
 

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I’d like to see us resign someone like Linval and see what the draft pick from Auburn have. Both true 1Ts.

Grant and the kid from OSU are probably your best 1T prospects but they don’t warrant a top 15 pick.
A lot will depend upon if they resign Osa. If they do lose him, have to replace his pass rush where a free agent replacement makes more sense as these DT's take time to develop. Say that is taken care of in one way or another. Team has to get better at stopping the run or it won't matter who is rushing the passer. I am fine with taking a high 2 down player if he significantly can improve our run defense. If Graham/Harmon are gone, have no problems considering the likes of Grant/Williams.
 

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That’s why I’m not taking one…in the first. Best receiver in this draft might end up being a second or rounder….nothing like this last class with Thomas, Nabers, Harrison…..

Hunter I can’t stand behind because while he’s an elite talent I don’t know if he’s an elite corner or receiver. Gonna be fun to find out.

We need a premiere day one starter with that pick. Not a project. But we need him at position of need as well and a position we can’t get that type of talent later in the draft.
In this day and age you have to…the Eagles took Smith at what like 11? Addison went in the teens I think.
 
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