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I firmly believe our starting 5 off lineman are already on the roster. Not happy with that, but what can I do about it
NJ22;5075677 said:Just maddening. There will always be one or two glaring issues that we all know will eventually cost us our season. We don't need pro-bowlers at every spot, but you can't run Livings and Bernardo and Free out there with any realistic expectations of having a great season...
Galian Beast;5075728 said:Why hasn't anyone else signed them yet?
Galian Beast;5075741 said:The others, but not us?
Idgit;5075832 said:It's almost as if Bill Callahan and the rest of the organization don't share your assessment of the state of our OL. That's just crazy.
TheSport78;5075678 said:Yeah, I don't know about that. Broaddus isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
Idgit;5075832 said:It's almost as if Bill Callahan and the rest of the organization don't share your assessment of the state of our OL. That's just crazy.
Hoofbite;5075876 said:I'm really not sure how anyone can look at the situation objectively and trust them at this point.
What, 4 broken bones to the QB in the last 5 years? I think there's 1 team with fewer rushing TDs than Dallas over the last 2 years....a couple with fewer over the last 3 years. I mean, you have individuals outrushing this entire team and a good number of them.
The running game was stuffed on 11.3% of it's carries which is good for 9th worst. This stat is even uglier if you consider what teams are ahead of Dallas.
Carolina, Atlanta, Oakland, Philly, Arizona, Minnesota, Indy and Tennessee.
1 team with QB play in the realm that Dallas has. The rest have zero passing threat.
1 team with fewer yards on 1st and 10 on the ground. Arizona. Not really a shocker considering how awful the ground game was overall but come on. Arizona had fewer yards overall and a crappier average but gained more on first down without a QB. 20 teams have 1.5X of Dallas total. A select few teams had more yards on first down than Dallas had period.
Fewest number of rushing plays over 10 yards in the league.
I really can't see how anyone can see what has transpired over the past couple seasons, see what the team is doing and think to themselves......."yeah, sounds legit".
If they feel good about the OL it has very little to do with what has actually been shown and whole lot to do with confidence in Callahan. If he can get these guys to play good then he's grossly underpaid.
Hoofbite;5075876 said:I'm really not sure how anyone can look at the situation objectively and trust them at this point.
What, 4 broken bones to the QB in the last 5 years? I think there's 1 team with fewer rushing TDs than Dallas over the last 2 years....a couple with fewer over the last 3 years. I mean, you have individuals outrushing this entire team and a good number of them.
The running game was stuffed on 11.3% of it's carries which is good for 9th worst. This stat is even uglier if you consider what teams are ahead of Dallas.
Carolina, Atlanta, Oakland, Philly, Arizona, Minnesota, Indy and Tennessee.
1 team with QB play in the realm that Dallas has. The rest have zero passing threat.
1 team with fewer yards on 1st and 10 on the ground. Arizona. Not really a shocker considering how awful the ground game was overall but come on. Arizona had fewer yards overall and a crappier average but gained more on first down without a QB. 20 teams have 1.5X of Dallas total. A select few teams had more yards on first down than Dallas had period.
Fewest number of rushing plays over 10 yards in the league.
I really can't see how anyone can see what has transpired over the past couple seasons, see what the team is doing and think to themselves......."yeah, sounds legit".
If they feel good about the OL it has very little to do with what has actually been shown and whole lot to do with confidence in Callahan. If he can get these guys to play good then he's grossly underpaid.
Going into this offseason, we had four highly criticized players/positions on the OL. We have addressed one of those four.Idgit;5075893 said:I'm sure you can't. And if I gave credence to running game statistics, I might be more concerned about the offense than I actually am, too. But stuff like 'fewest rushing plays over 10 yards in the league' and 'percentage of stuffed rushing plays' doesn't mean much of anything to me. Our running game was abysmal. We know that. It was mostly because our 4th center wasn't very helpful in that regard, and because our starting RB missed time and our backup was unimpressive.
But with all the OL shakeup early--and it was significant--we were 6th in yards/game last year. 15th in points/game. And 27th in TO differential.
The TOs are possessions and field position, and possessions in good field position are points. This is why we lose. It's not the OGs.
Yes, OG can be upgraded. Yes, I'd like to see them upgraded. But we did make a big move to address the interior line already. We added another running back, and we added a red zone option and a player to help take the top off of the defense. We're not standing still.
And if you don't trust Bill Callahan, two first round picks, and the FA acquisitions we made last year to do their jobs, that's up to you. But at this point, you can't fairly say we're ignoring the OL anymore. At best you can say that you don't like the moves we've made. But these are real resources, and Callahan is a talented coach. What's the point of bringing him in and letting him work out players and drafting them early to fix the problem if you're just going to sit around and complain that it's still not good enough?
Idgit;5075893 said:I'm sure you can't. And if I gave credence to running game statistics, I might be more concerned about the offense than I actually am, too. But stuff like 'fewest rushing plays over 10 yards in the league' and 'percentage of stuffed rushing plays' doesn't mean much of anything to me. Our running game was abysmal. We know that. It was mostly because our 4th center wasn't very helpful in that regard, and because our starting RB missed time and our backup was unimpressive.
But with all the OL shakeup early--and it was significant--we were 6th in yards/game last year. 15th in points/game. And 27th in TO differential.
The TOs are possessions and field position, and possessions in good field position are points. This is why we lose. It's not the OGs.
Yes, OG can be upgraded. Yes, I'd like to see them upgraded. But we did make a big move to address the interior line already. We added another running back, and we added a red zone option and a player to help take the top off of the defense. We're not standing still.
And if you don't trust Bill Callahan, two first round picks, and the FA acquisitions we made last year to do their jobs, that's up to you. But at this point, you can't fairly say we're ignoring the OL anymore. At best you can say that you don't like the moves we've made. But these are real resources, and Callahan is a talented coach. What's the point of bringing him in and letting him work out players and drafting them early to fix the problem if you're just going to sit around and complain that it's still not good enough?
I totally agree. Now I'm worried about Marinelli with him nixing the Floyd pick and saying our Dline is fine as it is.Beast_from_East;5075880 said:So far Callahan has done jack with his unit, he is dam lucky he still has a job.
I don't think Free even has to be discussed. It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he'll be cut pretty soon.
fanfromvirginia;5075919 said:Going into this offseason, we had four highly criticized players/positions on the OL. We have addressed one of those four.
I didn't really mind those guys. They may wind up being great additions that really do help the offense. Who knows at this stage.jnday;5075931 said:Yeah, but we drafted some great backups at TE, WR, a project safety.......... You are asking for a little too much considering the need at those positions.
fanfromvirginia;5075929 said:It is? Jerry has explicitly stated that they like what they have in Parnell and Free. They didn't draft a single OT so they won't cut him without signing a replacement. They've expressed interest in both Clabo and Winston but so have other teams.
I would really love for them to bring in Moore and either Clabo or Winston but I don't necessarily expect either to happen.