News: BTB: Cowboys Shouldn’t Worry That Dak Prescott Will Turn Into Robert Griffin III

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There are some similarities between the former Commanders quarterback, RGIII, and Dak Prescott but at the end of the day there is no comparison.

There is a hope, and I put an emphasis on hope, among many NFL fans that Dak Prescott will go the way of former Commanders quarterback Robert Griffin III. On the surface the comparison has some logic behind it. Both were rookie quarterbacks who led their teams to unexpected division titles and made the Pro Bowl in just their first season. Both did so with the benefit of a very strong running game (Alfred Morris broke the Commanders single-season rushing record in 2012), both were dangerous dual-threat quarterbacks, both did a great job of limiting turnovers as rookies, and both became darlings of the league in a very short period, anointed as the “future” of two historic NFC East franchises.

You can’t blame the casual fan for making the comparison between the two, the only problem is that once you look a little deeper there really is no comparison to be made.

The root of the differences between the two is the manner in which each player succeeded. Griffin’s success was predicated on the ability of Kyle Shannahan, his underappreciated offensive coordinator at the time, blending Griffin’s collegiate offensive scheme, the read-option, with an NFL offense and personnel. The result was something the league hadn’t seen before as the read-option took over the league in 2012. Defenses had no clue how to defeat it and quarterbacks like Griffin, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick thrived in it, with Kaepernick even coming within a few yards of winning the Super Bowl.



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Dak's game isn't a "gimmick"; he exhibits hard-work and knowledge of the game that helped to make him the player that he was; yes, the scheme was ball-control with the game's best OLine and a shiny new RB to lead the league in rushing...but, Dak had to learn on the fly, no one at this time last year saw him starting, let alone having the year that he did

I am excited to see how he develops this year and into the future, this will be a fun ride
 

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One player was offensive rookie of the year; had a terrific season and led his team to the playoffs; then, fell apart, eventually playing for the....wait for it...Cleveland Browns
One player was offensive rookie of the year; had a terrific season and led his team to the playoffs; this one plays for a team on the rise with a terrific supporting case

(sing with me) "One of these things, is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong....."
 

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I have zero fear that Prescott will turn into a "RGIII" boom to bust type of player.

Entirely different kind of QB, system and after listening/reading about each player– mindset.

I agree. I don't think his game really compares to RGIIIs, who was always a scrambler long ball thrower with highlight reels in college against questionable defenses. IMO, Prescott compares more to Rothlisberger or McNair or maybe even Mcnabb, all of which ended up pretty terrific minus one Super Bowl puker. I think Prescott got unfairly compared to Tebow (perhaps by me also) coming out causing him to get overlooked in the draft. However, he was playing against NFL caliber defenses and although he made plays with his legs his passing got overlooked. I now wonder if he made more plays with his legs in college because of the defenses he played against constantly overwhelming his OL. Clearly however, we all greatly underestimated him as a NFL passing QB....and fortunately our team was the beneficiary. I also esp love his study of leadership and how he has approached that aspect of the game. I'm often a negative nelly around these parts but I feel confident that Dak and Zeke will bring home multiple Landrys (what the trophy should've been named) I.e championships.
 

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Prescott is smarter, a better leader, and manages the game much better than Griffin. This gives me confidence he will continue to get better in the NFL rather than regress... Week 1 against the Giants will be a big test as they had the Cowboys number last year. If he has a big performance and leads the Cowboys to victory it will certainly represent progress.
 

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What a lot of people miss is he has a Masters in Management leadership....Perfect!

Smart, athletic, leader.....what else do you want?
 

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A more logical comparasion for those trying to diminish Dak would be Nick Foles in Philly. I believe it was his sophomore season but he came out of nowhere, got red hot and really put together one of the best seasons in NFL history while relying on his very good supporting cast and avoiding mistakes.

I wouldn't make that comparasion, Dak is the real deal but comparing him to RGIII has more to do with race than play. Dak doesn't really scramble much, it's literally a last resort so there is zero comparasion between him and Griffin in regards to playing style.
 

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I have zero fear that Prescott will turn into a "RGIII" boom to bust type of player.

Entirely different kind of QB, system and after listening/reading about each player– mindset.

Yeah that he threw from the pocket all year long should squash that notion. The only reason why I can see why they would have that concern is because of skin color. They are different quarterbacks from different systems. The comparison is not apt.
 

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A more logical comparasion for those trying to diminish Dak would be Nick Foles in Philly. I believe it was his sophomore season but he came out of nowhere, got red hot and really put together one of the best seasons in NFL history while relying on his very good supporting cast and avoiding mistakes.

I wouldn't make that comparasion, Dak is the real deal but comparing him to RGIII has more to do with race than play. Dak doesn't really scramble much, it's literally a last resort so there is zero comparasion between him and Griffin in regards to playing style.

It's better but we don't run that Chip Kelly scheme the league hadn't seen before either.

While we did run those rollouts and read option looks a handful of times a game the predominance was the same old Coryell offense we have seen Tony Romo et al run. Different route focuses but not new concepts.

In contrast Kelly was running that hurry up that was all read option and strange formations.
 

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It's better but we don't run that Chip Kelly scheme the league hadn't seen before either.

While we did run those rollouts and read option looks a handful of times a game the predominance was the same old Coryell offense we have seen Tony Romo et al run. Different route focuses but not new concepts.

In contrast Kelly was running that hurry up that was all read option and strange formations.

Oh I agree, there is still a difference but there are very little examples in recent NFL history where a QB popped up playing pro bowl football with very little NFL experience. Foles is a better example than RGIII.

It seems like most of the time it's something gimmicky, anyone who watched Dak last season know that his play wasn't gimmicky. The best part of Dak's game is how he improved so much over the season. The difference between week 1, week 8 and that guy standing tall trying to mount an epic comeback in the playoffs is unreal.
 

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I agree. I don't think his game really compares to RGIIIs, who was always a scrambler long ball thrower with highlight reels in college against questionable defenses. IMO, Prescott compares more to Rothlisberger or McNair or maybe even Mcnabb, all of which ended up pretty terrific minus one Super Bowl puker. I think Prescott got unfairly compared to Tebow (perhaps by me also) coming out causing him to get overlooked in the draft. However, he was playing against NFL caliber defenses and although he made plays with his legs his passing got overlooked. I now wonder if he made more plays with his legs in college because of the defenses he played against constantly overwhelming his OL. Clearly however, we all greatly underestimated him as a NFL passing QB....and fortunately our team was the beneficiary. I also esp love his study of leadership and how he has approached that aspect of the game. I'm often a negative nelly around these parts but I feel confident that Dak and Zeke will bring home multiple Landrys (what the trophy should've been named) I.e championships.

Anyone that tries to compare Dak to RG is just being lazy or influenced by race. The only things they have in common are the QB position and their skin color.

His approach to the game reminds me of Aikman. He really does not want to throw INTs and will throw the ball away. Aikman didn't get the same Wow reviews by the media and fans as a guy like Farve, but Aikman was the one you wanted on your team if you're a Head Coach.

Physically, McNabb is probably a good comp to Dak; although, Dak seems more accurate.
 

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Look at how much thicker Dak's build is. Especially in the legs. But Dak doesn't really run that much, but it's a decent red zone skill set that fits our offense with a good line and threatening rb.
 

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The actual content of the article said he's like neither RG3 nor Nick Foles.
So not sure where any racial element comes into play unless someones trying to force it.

I agree with the write-up.

The situation (gimmick vs non gimmick offense) and players (Dak is Dak) involved are just different.
Period.

:flagwave:
 

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The actual content of the article said he's like neither RG3 nor Nick Foles.
So not sure where any racial element comes into play unless someones trying to force it.

I agree with the write-up.

The situation (gimmick vs non gimmick offense) and players (Dak is Dak) involved are just different.
Period.

:flagwave:

Because when you look for commonalities and discount body type, offensive system, college system/conference, and arm talent there is not much left.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone but people exist that do categorize or otherwise judge by skin color.
 

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It's better but we don't run that Chip Kelly scheme the league hadn't seen before either.

While we did run those rollouts and read option looks a handful of times a game the predominance was the same old Coryell offense we have seen Tony Romo et al run. Different route focuses but not new concepts.

In contrast Kelly was running that hurry up that was all read option and strange formations.
After our game against S.F. last year you just knew the 'chipster's' Q.B. wasn't gonna make it thru the whole 16 games.
 

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Because when you look for commonalities and discount body type, offensive system, college system/conference, and arm talent there is not much left.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone but people exist that do categorize or otherwise judge by skin color.
I hear you, and agree.
But my point was that Nick Foles was also in the conversation.

And fwiw, Dak also didn't play under center at all in college and was pretty mobile, so there was that.

But yes, they've always seem uncomparable overall to me.
 
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