News: BTB: Philadelphia serves as example that free agency can work, will Cowboys try in 2018?

LocimusPrime

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Besides the Eagles, the patriots and Jaguars also spent quite a bit of money on free agents!
  • Calais Campbell (4 years 60 million)
  • Aj Bouye (5 years 67.5 million)
  • Dareus - traded for a 6th rd pick to the jags
  • Barry church
  • Larentee McCray
  • Audie Cole
Love what these teams did in free agency
 

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giants spent a fortune in free agency couple of years ago. but a poor coach has prevented them from winning. it's one thing to bring in the players. it's another to coach a winning system.
 

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It would be nice to try moves that get you to the Super Bowl.

Two years ago when the Denver Broncos won Super Bowl 50 many thought that the revolution of free agency was going to take off.

John Elway had built his team primarily off of spending big. He acquired Peyton Manning, DeMarcus Ware (whimpers), Aqib Talib, T.J. Ward, and Emmanuel Sanders among others that helped earn them a title. Of course they did draft Von Miller.

The Dallas Cowboys haven’t traditionally been a team that takes those types of shots (we’re talking current day, not your 90s teams). They believe in building through the draft and developing your own.

This is a great idea, and it’s worked for teams, see the Green Bay Packers. Breaking news here though, the Cowboys aren’t the Packers. The second round has seen plenty of failure. You can’t solely depend on the draft if you whiff on big picks.

On Sunday we saw the Philadelphia Eagles punch their ticket to Super Bowl LII. They did this with a starting quarterback (Nick Foles), starting receivers (Alshon Jeffery and Torrey Smith), and a big-contributing running back (LeGarrette Blount) that they brought in via free agency last offseason. This doesn’t even include pass rusher Chris Long or running back Jay Ajayi who they traded for mid-season.


Eagles veteran additions this past offseason

SIGNED: Nick Foles, LeGarrette Blount, Alshon Jeffrey, Torrey Smith, Stefen Wisneiwski, Chance Warmack, Chris Long & Corey Graham

TRADE: Timmy Jernigan, Ronald Darby, Jay Ajayi

Wonder if any of those guys made an impact...

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) January 22, 2018

The Eagles basically re-tooled their skill positions on offense, and tricked out their defense, in one fell swoop of an offseason. Is this a flawless strategy that 31 other teams should adopt? Of course not, but free agency certainly has benefits, and the Cowboys are reluctant to try and capitalize on them.

To say the Cowboys shopped in the bargain bin last offseason would be to put it kindly. Dallas brought in players like Stephen Paea, Nolan Carroll, Damontre Moore, and Byron Bell. The first three, the biggest, wouldn’t even survive the season with the team, and one was because the player retired (Paea).

Stephen Jones once infamously referred to free agency as not a great way to build a football team, the 2017 Eagles (among others) serve as contradictions to that philosophy.


Stephen Jones on Tuesday his general philosophy on free agency: pic.twitter.com/EhIiQRjRjN

— Rob Phillips (@robphillips3) March 1, 2017

In no way is it wise to suggest the Cowboys completely shift philosophies 180 degrees and adopt an all-in approach to free agency as the method to build their football team, but embracing some of free agency could be a wise move.

It’s understandable for anyone in an NFL front office to favor the draft over paying players big-time contracts, but to be so close-minded to the latter leads to free agency disasters like the Cowboys are having while other teams reap the benefit of rolling the dice.

And that’s the other thing. You can have a cold approach to free agency if you’re constantly churning out gold stars with your draft picks. The Cowboys have done well for the most part in drafting recently, but the second round has been a huge issue. The second round is a very important pick, if you missed there it can put your team behind.

Philadelphia isn’t the first team to reach the Super Bowl off of big free agency moves. They aren’t innovators, they’re merely open to all ideas, the mark of legitimate front offices. They saw opportunities, rolled the dice, and they hit on their investments.

The Eagles won’t be the last team to hit on this particular philosophy, but it does feel like the Cowboys need to join the club or they won’t hit on any.

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there is plenty of examples it doesn't work. you overpay for FAs and it tends to get you in couple of years if you don't hit it. with that said, you have to be selective and strategic with FAs, which is what Philly did. signing Jeffrey was key, but it was risky. normally an injury prone player, who stayed healthy. I don't think you build through FA, you complement with FAs. most really good worth a dime players won't make it to FA. those who do have some kind of issues, like injuries, older, problem children, etc. its risky and hit and miss.
 

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I get why they brought TWill back because it was such a bargain, but Dallas would be in the playoffs if they had signed Alshon Jeffrey. And the bonus would be that it would have taken him away from the Eagles.

Over the long haul the Dallas strategy of building through the draft is better than trying to get the right FAs at the right price (example - DeMarco Murray) but it is painful to see Philly in the Super Bowl.
No we wouldn’t
 

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Philadelphia serves as example that good coaching works
People still don’t get it. When have we seen great coaching from the clapper? 2014 vs Detroit I didn’t see any great coaching. I saw a lucky tip int and a Romo converted 4th down and a blown pass int. I didn’t say “wow Garrett’s offensive plays today are on point”. :rolleyes:
 

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No we wouldn’t

Yeah, what games do we win with Jeffrey? Certainly not Denver. It wasn't a lack of offense that caused us to lose to the Rams or Packers at home. The defense couldn't stop either team. We sure as hell weren't beating the Eagles in that first game with Jeffrey. Not winning the Chargers game with him either. So that leaves Seattle and Atlanta. A WR like Jeffrey probably doesn't make the difference in the Atlanta game either unless Jeffrey could play LT.

So Seattle?
 

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No, no, no. This destroys the fan boys mantra of whatever Dallas does is the bestest and smartest thing ever!

Free agency never

Stephon Gilmore signed a 5 year, $65,000,000 contract with the New England Patriots

ever

Patrick Robinson signed a 1 year, $775,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles

works

Alshon Jeffery signed a 1 year, $14,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles
 

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From a post in the article

"Incredibly, six of the top 10 2017 spenders in free agency, a period formerly reserved for desperate teams to throw money at anyone, made the playoffs: the Patriots, Titans, Rams, Vikings, Panthers, and Jaguars (who spent $20 million more than any other team)."
 

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Yeah, what games do we win with Jeffrey? Certainly not Denver. It wasn't a lack of offense that caused us to lose to the Rams or Packers at home. The defense couldn't stop either team. We sure as hell weren't beating the Eagles in that first game with Jeffrey. Not winning the Chargers game with him either. So that leaves Seattle and Atlanta. A WR like Jeffrey probably doesn't make the difference in the Atlanta game either unless Jeffrey could play LT.

So Seattle?
Not saying I agree with said statement, but T-Will had a pass go throw his hands into the defender for a pick 6 in the Packers game.
And that game of course we lost by 4.
 

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It would be nice to try moves that get you to the Super Bowl.

Two years ago when the Denver Broncos won Super Bowl 50 many thought that the revolution of free agency was going to take off.

John Elway had built his team primarily off of spending big. He acquired Peyton Manning, DeMarcus Ware (whimpers), Aqib Talib, T.J. Ward, and Emmanuel Sanders among others that helped earn them a title. Of course they did draft Von Miller.

The Dallas Cowboys haven’t traditionally been a team that takes those types of shots (we’re talking current day, not your 90s teams). They believe in building through the draft and developing your own.

This is a great idea, and it’s worked for teams, see the Green Bay Packers. Breaking news here though, the Cowboys aren’t the Packers. The second round has seen plenty of failure. You can’t solely depend on the draft if you whiff on big picks.

On Sunday we saw the Philadelphia Eagles punch their ticket to Super Bowl LII. They did this with a starting quarterback (Nick Foles), starting receivers (Alshon Jeffery and Torrey Smith), and a big-contributing running back (LeGarrette Blount) that they brought in via free agency last offseason. This doesn’t even include pass rusher Chris Long or running back Jay Ajayi who they traded for mid-season.


Eagles veteran additions this past offseason

SIGNED: Nick Foles, LeGarrette Blount, Alshon Jeffrey, Torrey Smith, Stefen Wisneiwski, Chance Warmack, Chris Long & Corey Graham

TRADE: Timmy Jernigan, Ronald Darby, Jay Ajayi

Wonder if any of those guys made an impact...

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) January 22, 2018

The Eagles basically re-tooled their skill positions on offense, and tricked out their defense, in one fell swoop of an offseason. Is this a flawless strategy that 31 other teams should adopt? Of course not, but free agency certainly has benefits, and the Cowboys are reluctant to try and capitalize on them.

To say the Cowboys shopped in the bargain bin last offseason would be to put it kindly. Dallas brought in players like Stephen Paea, Nolan Carroll, Damontre Moore, and Byron Bell. The first three, the biggest, wouldn’t even survive the season with the team, and one was because the player retired (Paea).

Stephen Jones once infamously referred to free agency as not a great way to build a football team, the 2017 Eagles (among others) serve as contradictions to that philosophy.


Stephen Jones on Tuesday his general philosophy on free agency: pic.twitter.com/EhIiQRjRjN

— Rob Phillips (@robphillips3) March 1, 2017

In no way is it wise to suggest the Cowboys completely shift philosophies 180 degrees and adopt an all-in approach to free agency as the method to build their football team, but embracing some of free agency could be a wise move.

It’s understandable for anyone in an NFL front office to favor the draft over paying players big-time contracts, but to be so close-minded to the latter leads to free agency disasters like the Cowboys are having while other teams reap the benefit of rolling the dice.

And that’s the other thing. You can have a cold approach to free agency if you’re constantly churning out gold stars with your draft picks. The Cowboys have done well for the most part in drafting recently, but the second round has been a huge issue. The second round is a very important pick, if you missed there it can put your team behind.

Philadelphia isn’t the first team to reach the Super Bowl off of big free agency moves. They aren’t innovators, they’re merely open to all ideas, the mark of legitimate front offices. They saw opportunities, rolled the dice, and they hit on their investments.

The Eagles won’t be the last team to hit on this particular philosophy, but it does feel like the Cowboys need to join the club or they won’t hit on any.

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Let's see them win first, because if they dont, they could be the Giants of this year.
 

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It is painful but I'm comforted knowing there is a limited window of sustainability. 2017 was a great year for Philly but the likelihood of them repeating that success in 2018 is slim.
Why? The Eagles have been great at cap management for years. Right now they can get to $30 million in space by making 4 personnel moves. But I think they make better moves by trading.
They had two really good drafts the past two years and because of the injuries this year young guys got playing time. They are in really great shape roster wise and cap wise.
 

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Why? The Eagles have been great at cap management for years. Right now they can get to $30 million in space by making 4 personnel moves. But I think they make better moves by trading.
They had two really good drafts the past two years and because of the injuries this year young guys got playing time. They are in really great shape roster wise and cap wise.

We will see, the 49ers thought that too, look how fast that window closed. They better win it this year.
 

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Not saying I agree with said statement, but T-Will had a pass go throw his hands into the defender for a pick 6 in the Packers game.
And that game of course we lost by 4.

TWill averaged 35 yards per game and our offense is built around ball control. In the Rams game we were up by 8 at halftime and would control the ball to win in the second half if we had Jeffrey. Same with the Packers game and the Seahawks game.
 

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Free agency losses cost the Cowboys more than lack of signings

The Cowboys were not going to sign any other receivers outside of Williams and Butler. Not with Dez still here and in good standings with the coaches and brass.

Losing Leary and Free hurt the strongest unit on the team. The reason for Dak's strong play as a rookie and I would guess the reason Zeke went from 5.1ypc to 4.1ypc

Then we lost our entire secondary.

The only guy who could've made a real difference on this was Campbell, and the Jags made him a blow him out the water deal. Can't blame the Cowboys for not out bidding for a 33 year old DL.

PFF put out a story after last season with a title like: Eagles are the most talented team in the league...

PFF was right
 

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We will see, the 49ers thought that too, look how fast that window closed. They better win it this year.
Again why? Our franchise QB is not playing. Neither is our HOF LT. Our MLB and RB. We get them all back with draft choices and ton of experience.
 

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Why? The Eagles have been great at cap management for years. Right now they can get to $30 million in space by making 4 personnel moves. But I think they make better moves by trading.
They had two really good drafts the past two years and because of the injuries this year young guys got playing time. They are in really great shape roster wise and cap wise.

You must be a fan.

Anything can happen from one year to the next. NE can manage to be successful each year because they have arguably the best coach and the best QB. Everyone else hopes to catch lightening in a bottle.

Philly had a great season and they have a good chance (defensively) to win a Super Bowl. If you are a fan, savor it. One thing I've learned as a Cowboys fan is to enjoy the Super Bowl ride; you never know when it will end.
 
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