BTB: Seven takeaways from Cowboys training camp: Good day for the pass rushers

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It is the only game they have had a chance to play in.
Okay... Look, let me just say if he does great: Super-Great!
I ain't eating the chow being put in front of me on this guy yet, though. HOF games are just about meaningless.
If there are some of you poo-pooing Taco's performance in it, and others are rationalizing that, why shouldn't I be the devil's advocate on this dude Neal?

HOF game yo. Meaningless scrimmage with backup players trying new things against backup players.

Excuse me for not getting my heart a-flutter on either side of the spectrum.
 

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Okay... Look, let me just say if he does great: Super-Great!
I ain't eating the chow being put in front of me on this guy yet, though. HOF games are just about meaningless.
If there are some of you poo-pooing Taco's performance in it, and others are rationalizing that, why shouldn't I be the devil's advocate on this dude Neal?

HOF game yo. Meaningless scrimmage with backup players trying new things against backup players.

Excuse me for not getting my heart a-flutter on either side of the spectrum.

I think I liked you better two weeks ago.

I guess I just don't get the poo pooing of players in the only chance we have had to see them going against other players in live situations. I don't think anyone makes the leap of faith that because a guy played well in preseason he is gonna be a Pro Bowler. It is nice to actually see these guys and compare them to what we have been hearing.

Early on Broaddus was really talking up Lotulelei. In the game he didn't really do much of note. He didn't meat expectations. We have heard some reports of Neal flashing some pass rush ability. When we actually see him in some action and he does just that we feel like it is a positive. There were a lot of players that we did see match the talk coming into the game. Some that haven't been producing that really didn't show much. And some that maybe made themselves a little more known going into preseason wk 1 like Jones and Gilchrist on defense and MOrris, SMith, Rush and a couple others of offense.
 

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I think I liked you better two weeks ago.

I guess I just don't get the poo pooing of players in the only chance we have had to see them going against other players in live situations. I don't think anyone makes the leap of faith that because a guy played well in preseason he is gonna be a Pro Bowler. It is nice to actually see these guys and compare them to what we have been hearing.

Early on Broaddus was really talking up Lotulelei. In the game he didn't really do much of note. He didn't meat expectations. We have heard some reports of Neal flashing some pass rush ability. When we actually see him in some action and he does just that we feel like it is a positive. There were a lot of players that we did see match the talk coming into the game. Some that haven't been producing that really didn't show much. And some that maybe made themselves a little more known going into preseason wk 1 like Jones and Gilchrist on defense and MOrris, SMith, Rush and a couple others of offense.
All I'm saying is that the HOF game is not a game. It's where backup players get a chance to show off and practice their newfound learning and working within what the coaches want.
You want to dispute that and go bonkers on a player "forcing their way onto the team"? Go at it. I'm just saying that this game meant not much on both sides of the spectrum.

I apologize for my making you disliking me over the past 2 weeks. Not my intention at all.
 

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Crawford is strong as hell.

First indication was when he came into the NFL as an underweight 5 tech and held his own. That's a big boy position.

I wish we could have seen him without the shoulder injuries, but the fact he's come back and still one of the strongest guys on the line, shoulder injuries really suck, shows how hard the guy works.

Hopefully he's healthy all year.
 

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I'm pretty sure Crawford likes it a LOT better on the edge, rather than fighting the plug uglies in the middle.

Sure would be nice to see this old boy come through this season, for a WHOLE season.

How many years left does he have on his contract?
If he doesnt have the season the team wants he can be a jun1 cut next yr spliting 7.3mil in 2018 and 2019. Or if Irving is the real deal and he light it up this yr. Cutting him next yr only saves 5.5mil, releasing him in 2019 in junes saves the cowboys 8mil.

Most logical answer is he playes out his contract to 2020. and 2021 he's a FA
 

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If he doesnt have the season the team wants he can be a jun1 cut next yr spliting 7.3mil in 2018 and 2019. Or if Irving is the real deal and he light it up this yr. Cutting him next yr only saves 5.5mil, releasing him in 2019 in junes saves the cowboys 8mil.

Most logical answer is he playes out his contract to 2020. and 2021 he's a FA
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