News: BTB: Which Cowboys Veterans Are In Danger Of Being Released?

[RS12]

Bloggers gotta come up with content from somewhere. Looking under rocks here.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

what would you pay for a 3d string TE who is average blocker and below average receiver? he improved. yes. is he good at it or really good at it. No.

what would you pay for a hanna type on somebody else's team? specially if they just drafted another 6th round TE?

Think what you want but Hanna has made the plays when his number was called and became a damn good blocker as well. He played in many snaps and didn't cause us to lose. He is still on his rookie deal which is pennies, I think he makes the roster over any TE not named Witten

 

[Kaiser]

Dunbar seems like the odd man out to me.

The two questions I would ask are is someone better in the running game and can someone fill his shoes on special teams.

Agree, I hope he improves because he could really do some damage as the Reggie Bush type in Linehan's offense but I think the odds are against him making the team right now. The other four guys on the list have zero chance of being cut, its a joke to say they would cut Escobar at this point.

 

[gmoney112]

Think what you want but Hanna has made the plays when his number was called and became a damn good blocker as well. He played in many snaps and didn't cause us to lose. He is still on his rookie deal which is pennies, I think he makes the roster over any TE not named Witten

Like it or not, Witten isn't retiring. Escobar isn't going anywhere. And Hanna is on the last year of his rookie contract.

They drafted Swaim as a blocking TE so if he shows to be a better blocker than Hanna, Hanna is probably gone. If not, they'll probably put Swaim on the PS, and let Hanna go next year.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You say this every time James Hanna's name is mentioned and every time people remind you about how he improved his blocking and how it was mentioned several times by the Cowboys:

"James Hanna What We Know: Hanna’s blocking in roughly one-third of the Cowboys’ total offensive snaps was a huge part of Murray’s single-season franchise-record rushing total. A sixth-round pick in 2012, Hanna has appeared in every game of his three-year career as a sturdy backup to Witten."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...wer-can-young-tight-ends-behind-witten-emerge

Can he get beat out? Sure, but to say he can't block when he basically did just that pretty well in 1/3 of the Cowboys offensive snaps last year is incorrect. He may get cut, but it won't be because he "can't block".

Hanna is not a good pass protector. He is the worst of the three TE. Escobar surprised me inline next to Tyron several times last year. I would see Tyron pass the DE off and expect Escobar to get beat. Never happened. Very good lateral quickness and his punch is good enough.

He did not have the arm strength to hold run blocks. He reaches them just fine but guys like KJ Wright would shed him like it was nothing. I think Escobar beats him out this year if he improves his upper body strength.

 

[gmoney112]

Hanna is not a good pass protector. He is the worst of the three TE. Escobar surprised me inline next to Tyron several times last year. I would see Tyron pass the DE off and expect Escobar to get beat. Never happened. Very good lateral quickness and his punch is good enough.

He did not have the arm strength to hold run blocks. He reaches them just fine but guys like KJ Wright would shed him like it was nothing. I think Escobar beats him out this year if he improves his upper body strength.

Haha yeah, Escobar was a big lanky dude coming out of college. I was impressed at how much stouter he looked last year and he definitely improved his run blocking since that was his big weakness coming out of college. As far as pass catching ability, I think he was better than Ertz who went before him. Eifert was really the only TE i'd take over Gavin.

If Gavin keeps steadily improving, he has the hands and size to be a 3 down TE. It'll be another interesting facet to watch as training camp progresses.

 

[chris1995]

I want to nickname him red zone. He can be that got us.

Legitimately!

Good name !!!

 

[waving monkey]

One thing I never understood was people clammoring for more touches for Dunbar, Hanna, Escobar etc.

You have Dez, Jason Witten and Terrence Williams and there's only one football. How many touches do you truly expect for them to get?

In Escobar's case I understood the clamoring. Witten wont be here much longer and Escobar
has proven he'll catch the ball. My question is, [please don't throw rocks] is Witten becoming a
progress stopper?

 

[waving monkey]

Like it or not, Witten isn't retiring. Escobar isn't going anywhere. And Hanna is on the last year of his rookie contract.

They drafted Swaim as a blocking TE so if he shows to be a better blocker than Hanna, Hanna is probably gone. If not, they'll probably put Swaim on the PS, and let Hanna go next year.

Swaim doesn't even have to be better blocker then Hanna. He has to show he can be trusted
to get the job done. That trade to get Swaim in my mind was telling.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

In Escobar's case I understood the clamoring. Witten wont be here much longer and Escobar
has proven he'll catch the ball. My question is, [please don't throw rocks] is Witten becoming a
progress stopper?

I think he is a progress stopped. But he's also still a solid contributor. Escobar and Hanna both should see the field more this year especially Esco being we invested such a high pick on him and IMO he's done the best you can expect in such limited touches.

 

[Enlightened32]

In Escobar's case I understood the clamoring. Witten wont be here much longer and Escobar
has proven he'll catch the ball. My question is, [please don't throw rocks] is Witten becoming a
progress stopper?

He may be a progress stopper, but until someone outright outperforms him he's not going anywhere.

 

[Alexander]

Haha, 0% chance Escobar gets cut. He's gotten limited opportunities because of the pass catchers in front of him on the totem pole. He's a huge target with some great hands. He's not going anywhere.

If they want a "blocking" tight end, isn't that why they drafted Swaim?

Hanna is the odd man out, it'll come down to him or Swaim.

All about special teams for these two. I know Swaim is carrying some hefty praise for a player that probably should have never been drafted, but it is not like he is some third tackle either. Hanna improved last season and could at least steer defenders out of the way in the blocking aspect and I do not think Swaim is necessarily better in that regard. I just think they want more on special teams from Hanna and Swaim was addressing that. Just competition for the bottom of the roster, not an impactful battle overall.

 

[Alexander]

In Escobar's case I understood the clamoring. Witten wont be here much longer and Escobar
has proven he'll catch the ball. My question is, [please don't throw rocks] is Witten becoming a
progress stopper?

If he is a progress stopper, I will take more like him. How about a veteran DL that is a consummate professional and leader? More please.

 

[sideon]

One thing I never understood was people clammoring for more touches for Dunbar, Hanna, Escobar etc.

You have Dez, Jason Witten and Terrence Williams and there's only one football. How many touches do you truly expect for them to get?

Escobar has actually made plays for the Cowboys when given the opportunity.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

One thing I never understood was people clammoring for more touches for Dunbar, Hanna, Escobar etc.

You have Dez, Jason Witten and Terrence Williams and there's only one football. How many touches do you truly expect for them to get?

Not clam morning but when defenses are tight and those guys ain't getting open....

Get unpredictable.. Throw to "Esco"!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Think what you want but Hanna has made the plays when his number was called and became a damn good blocker as well. He played in many snaps and didn't cause us to lose. He is still on his rookie deal which is pennies, I think he makes the roster over any TE not named Witten

I doubt if he makes it over Escobar.

sorry, I am not impressed. just my opinion.

 

[starfrombirth]

all the others make sense, but would be surprised if Hayden gets cut, because there are games you just have to buckle up and stop the run..

And how would keeping Hayden help in this area exactly??? I understand this isn't necessarily the OP's view so don't attack me for that. I'm just saying that Hayden offers no pass rush AND no ability to stop the run, so....

 

[Kaiser]

I think we keep four TE's and Clutts returns to from whence he came .

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

so funny and rediculus. Escobar is in the shadow of Witten and suddenly he is about to be cut. Jerra didn't draft him to discard him after 2 years.

 

[BAT]

Devin Street will be pushed by all those new hungry WRs as well. And Swaim hasn't looked better than UDFA Ray Hamilton IMO. As for Escobar, how long did Cowboys keep the other 2nd round TEs before they were traded/not re-signed?