Buffalo Bills have 24.2 Million in dead money, topped only by the Cowboys

[Bluefin]

That's unsurprising given the release of Ware. We've been tight the last three years, no doubt.

One day, though, I'd also like to see a list of unused cap space for each time. They probably exist and just don't get as much play in Dallas, where that isn't a problem. But you know there are teams that put themselves at a similar competitive disadvantage by not using all the cap available to them each year.

That makes me think of Philly during the McNabb years. So close to having a winning team but to cheap to pay for one.

I've never heard about a website to look at historical cap figures, but I agree that Philadelphia is one of the teams that has always been cheap.

And although I don't know of a site to look at old salary cap figures, we can look at current cap space thanks to the NFLPA site.

We can use this site to look at current cap space available and how much money teams carried over from last year.

Jacksonville is number one in available cap space with $29.618M and number two in 2013 cap carryover with $19.645M.

Cleveland is number two in available cap space with $24.527M and number one in 2013 cap carryover with $24.537M.

The New York Jets are number three in current cap space with $24.525M but only number 23 in 2013 cap carryover with $1.473M

Philadelphia is number four in available cap space with $19.755M and number five in 2013 cap carryover with $17.139M.

Tennessee is number five in available cap space with $15.976M and number eight in 2013 cap carryover with $6.953M.

The first thing we will all probably take away from these numbers is none of the above five teams have established quarterbacks on big money contracts. They all have quarterbacks playing on cheap rookie contracts.

 

[Bluefin]

Depends if we have to take the Carr to the junkyard

Brandon Carr's contract shouldn't be an issue next season.

If he has a good year, they can leave the deal alone and go about thier business.

If Carr has issues, they can discuss a pay cut ($8M base salary in '15).

If Carr is deemed expendable for whatever reason, he can be released as a June cut next year. Carr's 2015 cap hit ($12.717M) would stay on the books until June 2nd (not an issue), at which time the team would create $7.49M in cap space after adding a '15 first year salary ($0.510K) to replace Carr under the top 51.

Dallas would save $5.858M in 2016 and $12.177M in 2017 after adding a first year salary to take Carr's spot.

 

[Idgit]

And please, guys. Let's not spam thread topics with unrelated posts that obviously are widely off-topic for this discussion.

 

[Redball Express]

No real GM?

Uh-ooo..

should I be worried?

we also have no real GM..

 

[Bluefin]

Is Miles Austin the only heavy hitter for dead money on next year's cap? Is his 5 million the only dead money or is there more but Austin is the biggest. I assume there's more but I'm asking if there is any other big dents in the cap like Austin's.

Miles Austin ($5.1062M) is the biggest.

But there are others and more will be added to the pile as we move forward.

Kyle Orton ($2.255M) is the only other big 2015 dead money hit right now, but Doug Free ($3.98M) will jump Orton when his contract voids after this season (which will create $6.53M in cap space).

If Carr gets released ($4.717M), he'd go to number two.

And I really hope we do not send Carr packing quite yet.

I'm not expecting it.

 

[Bluefin]

The other dead money hits of note this season are Nate Livings ($2.1M), Marcus Spears ($1.4M) and Kyle Orton ($1.1275M).

Now there is some guys to break the bank on...

I don't think any fans liked the Nate Livings signing as soon as it was announced.

I wasn't in favor of re-signing Marcus Spears because I knew he'd never come close to seeing the end of that contract.

I was on board with signing Kyle Orton, we needed a veteran back-up.

All three of these players were released and the team created salary cap space upon terminating the contracts and in future seasons.

 

[Bluestang]

Anybody know how much money we have tied into contracts for next year?

 

[Bluefin]

Anybody know how much money we have tied into contracts for next year?

Right now, we have 42 contracts for $137.362M.

This is for cap hits, not the actual cash amounts that are to be paid in 2015.

This includes Doug Free, who will come off the books.

It doesn't include Dez Bryant, DeMarco Murray or any of the other upcoming free agents.

 

[Bluestang]

Right now, we have 42 contracts for $137.362M.

This is for cap hits, not the actual cash amounts that are to be paid in 2015.

This includes Doug Free, who will come off the books.

It doesn't include Dez Bryant, DeMarco Murray or any of the other upcoming free agents.

So about $3M shy of the projected salary cap for 2015 with needing another 9 contracts to be counted against the cap?

Not including dead money too, sound right?

 

[Bluefin]

So about $3M shy of the projected salary cap for 2015 with needing another 9 contracts to be counted against the cap?

Not including dead money too, sound right?

That's including the current 2015 dead money.

The nine missing contracts would add $4.59M if they are all first year players (the types signed to futures deals following the season).

This doesn't include whatever cap space we end up carrying over from this season ($10,431,351.00 right now)

Hopefully, we'll carryover $7M or so.

And then the team can restructure as shown earlier and get to work.

 

[Bluestang]

That's including the current 2015 dead money.

The nine missing contracts would add $4.59M if they are all first year players (the types signed to futures deals following the season).

This doesn't include whatever cap space we end up carrying over from this season ($10,431,351.00 right now)

The carryover money IMO is pretty much spoken for with the Dez extension/contract.

And then the team can restructure as shown earlier and get to work.

Not a big fan of the restructures, half the reason why why have about $20M in dead money is because we restructured Ware 3X, and Ratliff as well.

 

[Nightman]

The restructuring isn't the problem. It is that almost every vet Dallas signed or re-signed didn't live up to the deal, except for Ware and Romo.

Restructuring allows the team to spend above the cap every year. The players just need to preform.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Direct TV's contract expires this year and has not been renegotiated. It was exclusive. Keeping that exclusivity is going to cost a lot more than the $1b per annum they currently contribute.

The cost controls from the old deduction system they retained for a few years in 2011 with the new CBA are also lifted and that huge Fox deal they signed then will start getting its full accounting.

The cap figures to go up significantly when you consider 3/4 of NFL revenue is TV.

 

[Bluefin]

The carryover money IMO is pretty much spoken for with the Dez extension/contract.

Pay the man.

Not a big fan of the restructures, half the reason why why have about $20M in dead money is because we restructured Ware 3X, and Ratliff as well.

It's how the team does business.

Jay Ratliff was an issue because he quit on the team and forced his released. The team simply picked a bad player to give a third contract and compounded the mistake by restructuring the deal last year.

We still gained cap space this season by releasing DeMarcus Ware even with all those restructures.

There's risk involved, but the same goes for using the Franchise tag or paying out a huge base salary.

Injuries will never go away.

Tony Romo has the worrisome contract right now.

However, even if he is restructured again in 2015 as planned, Dallas can actually release him as soon as 2016 (June) if needed.

 

[Bluefin]

The players just need to preform.

And the team has to do a better job when deciding which players are going to get lucrative extensions.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Pay the man.




It's how the team does business.

Jay Ratliff was an issue because he quit on the team and forced his released. The team simply picked a bad player to give a third contract and compounded the mistake by restructuring the deal last year.

We still gained cap space this season by releasing DeMarcus Ware even with all those restructures.

There's risk involved, but the same goes for using the Franchise tag or paying out a huge base salary.

Injuries will never go away.

Tony Romo has the worrisome contract right now.

However, even if he is restructured again in 2015 as planned, Dallas can actually release him as soon as 2016 (June) if needed.

I think you can put Carr and Lee's deals on the worrisome pile too if not the most worrisome.

 

[perrykemp]

Take a guess who has the lowest 'dead money.'

Oh....I'll answer that for you.

Tampa Bay.

Who went 4-12 last year.

YR:

Which site you pulling your deadmoney stats from?

My quick read on the data over at 'OvertheCap' is the top 4 teams, as of now, with the lowest amount of dead money are:

Colts ($1.9m)
Packers ($3.2m)
Bengals ($4.1m)
49ers ($4.4m)

All four of them were playoff teams last year.

The four teams with the most dead money going into this season:

Cowboys ($25.3m)
Bills ($24.1m)
Panthers ($19.4m)
Texans ($18.7m)

Of those 4, only the Panthers were a playoff team last season.

 

[Bluefin]

I think you can put Carr and Lee's deals on the worrisome pile too if not the most worrisome.

Brandon Carr can be released next year, if necessary, for substantial cash and cap savings using the June designation.

Sean Lee is an injury concern, but his peak salary cap hit is only $9.95M in 2017 (there are pay escalators that can increase his salary every year).

The contract was designed to be restructured again next year in the event Lee met playing time incentives this year or last.

He didn't.

 

[plymkr]

Miles Austin ($5.1062M) is the biggest.

But there are others and more will be added to the pile as we move forward.

Kyle Orton ($2.255M) is the only other big 2015 dead money hit right now, but Doug Free ($3.98M) will jump Orton when his contract voids after this season (which will create $6.53M in cap space).

If Carr gets released ($4.717M), he'd go to number two.




I'm not expecting it.

Thanks Bluefin

 

[Yakuza Rich]

YR:

Which site you pulling your deadmoney stats from?

My quick read on the data over at 'OvertheCap' is the top 4 teams, as of now, with the lowest amount of dead money are:

Colts ($1.9m)
Packers ($3.2m)
Bengals ($4.1m)
49ers ($4.4m)

All four of them were playoff teams last year.

The four teams with the most dead money going into this season:

Cowboys ($25.3m)
Bills ($24.1m)
Panthers ($19.4m)
Texans ($18.7m)

Of those 4, only the Panthers were a playoff team last season.

I got it from here:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/129723/inside-slant-offseason-financial-health

Even if you use the OverTheCap numbers...there is still no substantial *mathematical* correlation between dead money and wins.





YR