Building the Defense

[Denim Chicken]

Re-sign Awuzie if under $10mil/yr

Sign 1 DL & 1 S from the following then draft.

DL
Shelby Harris
Dalvin Tomlinson
Poona Ford
DaQuan Jones
Roy Robertson-Harris

FS
Marcus Maye
Justin Simmons
Marcus Williams

 

[quickccc]

You get stop gaps in fa, long-term pieces in the draft. Spend premium picks and develop them.

You mean you wouldn't have made a play on big play safety tyranny Mathieu and considered him " long term" when he became a free agent from Houston Texans?

 

[TwoCentPlain]

lol, not smart is advocating for a ridiculous contract for an overnight player that spent the season on IR for a team that’s continuously picking in the top 5!

That was one serious beat down you gave @kskboys in this thread. It keeps getting worse the further the thread goes.

OP says go pay $13M for some player I never heard of. You say he went on IR before game 6. OP says it’s the thought that counts, need a big NT. You say he is 350 pounds and overweight. OP says he was all-world at Houston. You say why did Houston let him leave.

Funny stuff.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Re-sign Awuzie if under $10mil/yr

Well, $3M is under $10M. Awuzie was horrible this year. Took him about 10 weeks to return after tweaking his hammy. Shades of Mikes Austin. Maybe we get lucky and the Skins, Giants, or Eagles throw Byron Jones money at Awuzie.

 

[exciter]

That was one serious beat down you gave @kskboys in this thread. It keeps getting worse the further the thread goes.

OP says go pay $13M for some player I never heard of. You say he went on IR before game 6. OP says it’s the thought that counts, need a big NT. You say he is 350 pounds and overweight. OP says he was all-world at Houston. You say why did Houston let him leave.

Funny stuff.

Lol! Pretty much all the vegan sites have banned me. Getting desperate for someone to troll. Do find it odd that you would use a player that spent the season on IR as an example of a contract we should have signed!

 

[Cowboyny]

You mean you wouldn't have made a play on big play safety tyranny Mathieu and considered him " long term" when he became a free agent from Houston Texans?

The difference of drafting and signing a fa is so huge from a cap perspective. The problem with the Cowboys is that their roster is too top heavy. They are paying top 5 money at the position to several players, this takes away the middle class and their depth is low level talent cause of it.

 

[DuncanIso]

We need to start looking for pieces, not stopgaps. Problem w/ Poe/McCoy/Haha is that they were all stopgaps. What did we spend on them total, around 15 mil? Seems about right.

Meanwhile, Cincy signs top 5 DJ Reader for a measly 53 mil/4 years. Can you imagine him and Galley shoring up the middle? Talk about a nightmare for opposing D's.

What I'm saying is, fix something in FA. Signing stopgaps is not what we need at present, we need players who fix an issue.

need a S, CB, and LB.


Always need a LB.

 

[DuncanIso]

The difference of drafting and signing a fa is so huge from a cap perspective. The problem with the Cowboys is that their roster is too top heavy. They are paying top 5 money at the position to several players, this takes away the middle class and their depth is low level talent cause of it.

we could use another draft like last years.

 

[Typhus]

We have never been in a position in recent years to sign the pick of the bunch in free agency. It's not even been on the table. We have wasted the Dak years when we had a top performing QB on a rookie deal. The contracts handed to Elliott, Smith and I have to say Lawrence have contributed to us not being players in free agency. None of them have justified these contracts

Are you seriously suggesting we have managed our cap well in terms of who we have paid and what is left to spend in free agency? We have drafted players too high (Elliott, Smith) and then paid them top dollars.

My point about the Bucs is that they drafted well, spent well in free agency and rounded the team off with the signing of Brady.

the truth
Build the team first, and then go get the ringer,,, Brady was the ringer..
Watch McVay do the same now with Stafford, wouldnt surprise me.

 

[darthseinfeld]

We need to start looking for pieces, not stopgaps. Problem w/ Poe/McCoy/Haha is that they were all stopgaps. What did we spend on them total, around 15 mil? Seems about right.

Meanwhile, Cincy signs top 5 DJ Reader for a measly 53 mil/4 years. Can you imagine him and Galley shoring up the middle? Talk about a nightmare for opposing D's.

What I'm saying is, fix something in FA. Signing stopgaps is not what we need at present, we need players who fix an issue.

We have two things going for us right now. We should have very good edge pressure. Thats a big advantage. Teams will sell their sole for that. Also we have players in the secondary that have shown the ability in their young career to create TO's in Diggs and Wilson. That has been sorely missed here for a long time.

Thats a start. And those two things may swing a game or two by itself. But there is a ton of work to do to build a legit defense. To me middle needs to be addressed. Having one of the two DT's we picked on day 2 the last couple of years pan out would help, but that isnt enough. We would still need an a high quality performer at the DT position.

We need another CB too. With the talent possibility available, pick 10 might be a good place for that. However, I think that's also a position we can punt on in this draft if we have to. Could be alot of CB's on the market this year, and that can give us an opportunity for a short term solution while we establish a strong front

 

[atlantacowboy]

Agreed but there is a problem. We have managed our salary cap badly and the dollars available just aren't there. Years ago we got burned signing high price free agents and in recent years have resorted to the cheaper ones. There used to be a thought that why were they free agents in the first place, but that's not right as you cannot keep every good player. The Bucs have set the template on what to do, but we won't take any notice of that.

? This team hasn't invested in a "high priced" free agent on defense since Brandon Carr who's contract turned into a bargain. Other than that, you would have to go back to John Randle. We have never attempted to sign the quality and quantity of free agents Tampa did last off season........or Philly the year they won the super bowl....... or Peyton Manning's Broncos......... or the Ram team that appeared in a super bowl. Jerry has always lazily defaulted to signing the players he knows.

 

[Majic]

? This team hasn't invested in a "high priced" free agent on defense since Brandon Carr who's contract turned into a bargain. Other than that, you would have to go back to John Randle. We have never attempted to sign the quality and quantity of free agents Tampa did last off season........or Philly the year they won the super bowl....... or Peyton Manning's Broncos......... or the Ram team that appeared in a super bowl. Jerry has always lazily defaulted to signing the players he knows.

I said years ago.. We've paid top dollar in the past: Jason Ferguson, Mike Vanderjagt, Marco Rivera, Ryan Young to name a few.

With the low cap figure this year it is a buyer's market. We won't be involved to the extent we should be

 

[atlantacowboy]

I said years ago.. We've paid top dollar in the past: Jason Ferguson, Mike Vanderjagt, Marco Rivera, Ryan Young to name a few.

With the low cap figure this year it is a buyer's market. We won't be involved to the extent we should be

You have to account for injuries before labeling someone a free agent bust. Rivera and Ferguson were great signings who got injured and never really recovered. Its not like got to play and just sucked. If you want to blame someone for Jerry's free agent shyness, blame Roy Williams and Mo Claiborne. Jerry stopped dealing in large part due to those fiascos.......and laziness.

 

[Majic]

You have to account for injuries before labeling someone a free agent bust. Rivera and Ferguson were great signings who got injured and never really recovered. Its not like got to play and just sucked. If you want to blame someone for Jerry's free agent shyness, blame Roy Williams and Mo Claiborne. Jerry stopped dealing in large part due to those fiascos.......and laziness.

They were good players you are correct. Hard to believe what happened to Rivera. Jerry got sucked in to the 'they are free agents for a reason'. Flawed strategy

 

[CouchCoach]

In order to build a defense, the GM cannot be a follow the ball one and his primary interest marketing and promoting the team. Every owner is focused on marketing and promoting his team, which is why they don't make good GM's.

This team's evaluation of FA D talent is not good and they're not much better in the draft.

The difference between Booger's philosophy of defense and that of Johnson's and Parcells is stark. Johnson used the 1st pick in the draft on a DT and Parcells made the best FA acquisition for a DT and I doubt if Booger would have done either.

Building a defense hasn't changed just because the offensive side has gone more to the air. It is still all about stopping the run first and that begins with the D Triangle, DT, MLB, DT. The Cowboys might, might, have one in Gallimore but they are missing the other two.

As evidenced by his "war daddy" remark, he sees defense as pass rush. He does not get taking the middle of the field away from the offenses.