Bunting NFP Big Board Top 30

ABQCOWBOY;4370153 said:
He is the most athletically gifted QB in the draft. Of that, there is no question. That is how.


and so was Jeff George and Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell
 
tm1119;4370952 said:
Aside from this whole RG3 argument, just about his whole top 30 is horrendous. Hope this guy isnt getting paid to do that.

Agree. I have watched David Wilson (RB-VT) for his 3 year career, and despite being a physical freak his vision and instincts are terrible for a running back. The amount of holes he misses is unreal.

I cannot see how he is in the top 15 besides being a physical freak
 
TheCount;4370939 said:
I wanted him on the Cowboys, but he'll be off the board by then. If he was, by some freak accident, still available at 14, I'd take him even before I'd take a lineman.

Me too. I wouldn't even hesitate
 
tm1119;4370952 said:
Aside from this whole RG3 argument, just about his whole top 30 is horrendous. Hope this guy isnt getting paid to do that.
What is horrendous about it? His board is not a reflection of how he thinks they will be taken. It is how he ranks the prospect in terms of future success and their abilities at their position.
 
SkinsHokieFan;4370922 said:
His passing skill set is that elite (release, accuracy, arm strength)

QB evaluation thoughts from someone who probably was certain that Jason Campbell was an all-Pro.

Grain of salt.
 
CB Stephen Gilmore @ #13 seems way to high to me... I watched all the Gamecock games. He is very solid, but not elite.
 
burmafrd;4371407 said:
and so was Jeff George and Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell


No Burm, you are wrong here. Jeff George was the best passing QB I ever saw. He had the best arm I've seen, even better then Elway's IMO. Ryan Leaf was a also a gifted passing QB and Russell was just, well, nothing. I was never a fan of Russell so I don't even include him in this discussion but none of those guys were athletes like RG3. I don't accept that comparison because two were basically pocket QBs (although Leaf had more athletic ability then did George). I would not say that they had more upside then Luck. Luck is the best QB prospect since Elway probably but I would say that RG3 has more upside then does Luck.

Again, if I were picking, I would take Luck 100 times out of 100 but you are wrong in your assesment of these other QBs and RG3 IMO.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4371980 said:
No Burm, you are wrong here. Jeff George was the best passing QB I ever saw. He had the best arm I've seen, even better then Elway's IMO. Ryan Leaf was a also a gifted passing QB and Russell was just, well, nothing. I was never a fan of Russell so I don't even include him in this discussion but none of those guys were athletes like RG3. I don't accept that comparison because two were basically pocket QBs (although Leaf had more athletic ability then did George). I would not say that they had more upside then Luck. Luck is the best QB prospect since Elway probably but I would say that RG3 has more upside then does Luck.

Again, if I were picking, I would take Luck 100 times out of 100 but you are wrong in your assesment of these other QBs and RG3 IMO.

George and Leaf were also mental midgets and terrible locker room guys.

I do agree with you on George's arm, the ball coming out of his hand was a thing of beauty
 
Found this interesting...his mock has us trading down to 21 and taking Dennard.
TEAM NAME POS SCHOOL
1 IND Andrew Luck QB Stanford
3 KC Matt Kalil OT Southern California
4 STL Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina
6 MIN Jonathan Martin OT Stanford
7 CLE Quinton Coples DE North Carolina
8 CIN Trent Richardson RB Alabama
9 DEN Morris Claiborne CB Louisiana State
10 JAX Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State
11 ARI Riley Reiff OT Iowa
12 CAR Donte Paige-Moss DE North Carolina
13 CHI Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
14 SF Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama
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21 DAL Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
 
burntricersx;4374745 said:
Found this interesting...his mock has us trading down to 21 and taking Dennard.
TEAM NAME POS SCHOOL
1 IND Andrew Luck QB Stanford
3 KC Matt Kalil OT Southern California
4 STL Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina
6 MIN Jonathan Martin OT Stanford
7 CLE Quinton Coples DE North Carolina
8 CIN Trent Richardson RB Alabama
9 DEN Morris Claiborne CB Louisiana State
10 JAX Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State
11 ARI Riley Reiff OT Iowa
12 CAR Donte Paige-Moss DE North Carolina
13 CHI Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
14 SF Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama
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21 DAL Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska

Absolutely hate it. Wouldnt pay much attention to it, their number 12 tore ACL and will be drated late if at all.
 

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