Burger King- Thinks Cowboys will cut TO

[Bleu Star]

Why do you hate Garrett so much???

He's taking our offense in the wrong direction. He lacks basic creativity at the OC position and has now proven that he also lacks the critical skill of bringing his guys together onto one page. Any coach that says "him or me" can get the **** outta here as far as I am concerned. Coaches should be above that kind of triviality or they should be in some other line of work.

 

[chinch]

amen.

what you have to add into the equation is that owens, just like wade phillips were hired to be short term result getters. they were both brought in to maximize a short term goal, neither is a long term solution or a member of the equation that will lead to winning in the future.

Jerry at some point is going to realize his short term hires in owens and phillips didnt work and move forward. And when he does I will be the first one applauding Jerry.

 

[dadymat]

He's taking our offense in the wrong direction. He lacks basic creativity at the OC position and has now proven that he also lacks the critical skill of bringing his guys together onto one page. Any coach that says "him or me" can get the **** outta here as far as I am concerned. Coaches should be above that kind of triviality or they should be in some other line of work.

where did you read that?

 

[5Countem5]

Are you certain that feeling isn't simply infatuation? Lust? Lightheadedness after eating too many chili peppers?

Just kidding. Love has many definitions which have been debated by people since the beginning of time along with all sorts of evidence to prove their version of the emotion. Nothing has ever conclusively proven what is love for everyone.

So! If someone in the media reports something without providing proof and you don't believe it, but someone else hearing it might, it's possible that the story could be as equally true as it could be false right? I mean, if someone thinks it's true because they felt it was correct, it could be, right? Different strokes for different folks and all that, eh?

Yes, some are gullible. I agree.

 

[smoovb]

TO is a talented WR. I admire his drive to win football games. TO makes great plays as well as bad plays. Which kind does he make more of? Well, Im not sure. After a couple of seasons, he hasn't been the player I thought we needed to push us to the big game. So, in my humble opinion, I think at this point we are better off without him. What concerns me is taking a cap hit. Does the risk outweigh the reward? Again, Im not sure.

And now-a-days, Im not sure is a common statement most Cowboys fans are making.

 

[LatinMind]

where did you read that?

i think hes going by what everybody seems to think whats in garretts mind.

 

[dbair1967]

forcing it to owens or witten? umm steelers game. crayton owens were both open, who did he force it to? was like that alot of the time too.

I dont see him force many balls to Witten, usually when he throws to Witten he IS open, its an easy completion. I do however see him throw into double coverage alot with TO though.

lol just wow. actually i only heard 1 post game interview this yr that owens was mad about lack of passes. the cadinals game. possible romos worst game ever. if theres been more id like for u to prove it.

guess you slept through the Green bay game, Commanders game, basically any other game.

yup when the offense was rolling what was happening? i'd like for u to research stats.

??? huh?

then how come they dont get open? again i suggest u go back to the steelers game

I saw people open that game...saw people open alot of games...some plays Romo never saw them, alot of times its because he locked onto 81

do u really need to double cover roy, crayton r austin?

RW will draw double coverages, especially of Owens isnt here. Teams throw all kinds of junk defenses at Witten too.

harrison and woodley do everything. i think this is just u being ignorant to the fact. watch them play and u'll see.

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you are outta your head if you think they are better players than Ware

hes a better ATHLETE but not more complete LINEBACKER

see above...the Steelers would trade either one of those guys (probably even both) straight up for Ware right now, and not think twice about it

 

[Bleu Star]

i think hes going by what everybody seems to think whats in garretts mind.

Indeed I am. That's what 99.9 percent of this board thinks.

 

[DallasEast]

Yes, some are gullible. I agree.

Perhaps, but you can't PROVE it.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

i can this point of view, but im not blind to everything owens. if he gets cut ohwell. the cowboys still gotta play. but im saying its stupid to think people actually believe he's to blame for the cowboys failures.

and think all will be ok if he;s cut. it makes no sense for the team on the field, and in he cap area.

What I'm saying is that I don't think it's "stupid" to think Owens' attitude and distracting presence are at least partly responsible for the Cowboy's problems. It might be "wrong," but I don't think it's "stupid."

As for the impact on the talent level of the team... it depends on what you think. What I think I saw last year was a player who has kept himself in superb shape and who has dodged, for a long time, the decline that is inevitable for all players... but... a player who showed significant signs in 2008of that inevitable decline.

It's what I think I saw. I surely could be wrong.

I think it's time to cut Owens loose. It doesn't mean I hate the man. And I'd like to think it doesn't mean I'm an idiot.

 

[LatinMind]

you are outta your head if you think they are better players than Ware




see above...the Steelers would trade either one of those guys (probably even both) straight up for Ware right now, and not think twice about it

exactly, but i dont see how ur making that whole pont about ware. dallas has 1 lb'er who can make plays. the point is they need 3 other ones. who cares if ware is a great athlete. all teams have to do is run a play the opposite direction.

 

[dadymat]

Indeed I am. That's what 99.9 percent of this board thinks.

so you have used a media report from an unknown source to help form your opinion of a coach?

 

[LatinMind]

What I'm saying is that I don't think it's "stupid" to think Owens' attitude and distracting presence are at least partly responsible for the Cowboy's problems. It might be "wrong," but I don't think it's "stupid."

As for the impact on the talent level of the team... it depends on what you think. What I think I saw last year was a player who has kept himself in superb shape and who has dodged, for a long time, the decline that is inevitable for all players... but... a player who showed significant signs in 2008of that inevitable decline.

It's what I think I saw. I surely could be wrong.

I think it's time to cut Owens loose. It doesn't mean I hate the man. And I'd like to think it doesn't mean I'm an idiot.

well im glad none of u have any say in what happens to the team. because not only would dallas lose a big part of their offense. they'd lose over 9 mil in dead cap. cut him in 2010 fine. but next yr is plain dumb.

 

[dbair1967]

exactly, but i dont see how ur making that whole pont about ware. dallas has 1 lb'er who can make plays. the point is they need 3 other ones. who cares if ware is a great athlete. all teams have to do is run a play the opposite direction.

and he runs alot of them down from behind, because he is great vs the run as well

I think we're in decent shape overall at LB. James is a good player and pencer has shown alot of flashes, if he puts it all together we will have two bigtime bookends. The other ILB needs help, but thats what the draft and maybe a mid level f/a signing is for, or maybe they keep Burnett. Which would probably be a good move.

 

[LatinMind]

and he runs alot of them down from behind, because he is great vs the run as well

I think we're in decent shape overall at LB. James is a good player and pencer has shown alot of flashes, if he puts it all together we will have two bigtime bookends. The other ILB needs help, but thats what the draft and maybe a mid level f/a signing is for, or maybe they keep Burnett. Which would probably be a good move.

james is a good lber on 1st and 2nd down. spencer cant play the run to save his life. burnett is a goner, but he left hamlin and davis out to dry too many times. dallas needs lb'ers plain and simple. i hope u know on alot of thm 3rd downs teams reached 1st down because of them pesky cross patterns wr's and rb;s would run right in front of dallas' lb'ers

 

[Bleu Star]

so you have used a media report from an unknown source to help form your opinion of a coach?

Actually, I sat back and analyzed every event that led up to Garrett shopping himself and formed my own opinion. He's running from his issues because he knows that if he lays another egg he can really start looking at that other line of work as a strong possibility.

I strongly believe Garrett would prefer to not have to "deal with" TO. Sadly, if he knew how to deal, his leadership would propel this super talented offense to the top.

 

[SultanOfSix]

No one denies that. Why do the TO lovers always fall back to that and but not acknowledge that he was one of the problems?

Besides the laundry list of problems, a major one was the fact this team was not a "team." Getting rid of people who aren't with the program, particularly high profile, charasmatic ones sends a big message that unity is first and foremost. As the saying goes, no "I" in team.

The point is for those who don't think TO is the primary problem, is the team should concentrate on fixing the bigger problems first. Then they should see if the lesser of the problems (TO) is still a problem. If so, then get rid of it. If not, then it's been solved.

The fact is, most people in the debate on the side of TO should leave, focus on TO as the primary problem, and that itself is questionable. If the team gets rid of him, the major problem is gone, and so the other issues will be solved. One player can never destroy a team despite what the media says. Never. They can only be problematic if things aren't working, which means there are bigger issues. All of the rumblings of him being a divisor of the team (this year), have come from Ed Werder and others citing "anonymous sources". That is disingenous.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

well im glad none of u have any say in what happens to the team. because not only would dallas lose a big part of their offense. they'd lose over 9 mil in dead cap. cut him in 2010 fine. but next yr is plain dumb.

Again, you think's it's dumb. It's all hypothetical. I think they are more likely to win next season without Owens than they are with him. You clearly disagree. I don't think I have to label your opinion as anything more than one that differs from mine. I don't think I have to characterize it with any kind of pejorative.

 

[khiladi]

How doers anyone know what receiver Tony Romo is locked on when the helmet is covering his eyes and head? And if receiver's were open all the time, what the hell was Garrett telling Tony Romo on the sidelines everytime Romo allegedly threw and INT, because he was trying to force the ball to Owens? They were looking at the actual game-shots, one-by-one. The excuses made for Garrett are flat-out ridiculous.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Please please Please let this be true.

I will do my homework every night, brush my teeth and make my bed for a month.

I will even take out the garbage.

And you will cut your hair? And be nice to Gimme?