Bus Drivers and the Super Bowl

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trueblue1687 said:
I know that there will be disagreement with my evaluation, but by and large a "franchise quarterback" is considered one that the "franchise" builds around and generally (but not set in stone) said QB is drafted by the team as well. So, if the QB is traded off I don't think that the franchise has built around him...traded for could be a different story

*** I didn't address Bledsoe in the mix. He was a franchise QB w/ New England, but obviously not in Buffalo or Dallas. My point here was not that there were more or less "bus drivers". Just that there have been. I think having roughly 25% of ALL superbowl quarterbacks being "bus drivers" says that they can be quite successful. I will also point out that very few "franchise" QB's have been the sole guy for their franchise. Staubach, Bradshaw, Young, Brady all lost their starting jobs or were a part of some LEGITIMATE QB dilemma. Just food for thought.


I am not contrasting franchise vs bus driver in the same way.

Here's my simplistic definition.

Franchise. A guy who can step it up and win the game for you.

Bus driver. A guy who can only manage a game and not lose it for you.
 

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Juke99 said:
I am not contrasting franchise vs bus driver in the same way.

Here's my simplistic definition.

Franchise. A guy who can step it up and win the game for you.

Bus driver. A guy who can only manage a game and not lose it for you.

Therein may lie the problem: there is no one person on a team who can win a game for you. There are only players...some better than others obviously. All QBs have to be game managers or they will not be consistently successful (see Favre). Franchise QBs are players that play with one franchise for all or most of their careers and may or may not ever get to or win a superbowl. Those other 21 guys on the field during a game will do alot more to win than ANY one player alone. When it comes down to it, a QB is expected to do 2 things (oversimplified)..hand the ball off and throw it for positive yards. With each of those it is understood that they will not turn the ball over. We aren't good enough up front to have any kind of "franchise" QB right now. It will happen again, but right now there are other needs. A good O-line and an average QB is better than a GREAT Qb and a sh**ty O-line any day.
 

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burmafrd said:
So that makes 13 that are not even by your biased standard. 2 to 1. Suddenly the odds are not so bad. Once again- GETTING the franchise guy is the HARD PART.
ESPECIALLY today. I would LOVE to have a franchise QB. Where do you see one?

Well, the trick with franchise QBs is that you don't know if you have one until you play them.

Right now we have the 15th best starting QB in the NFL. I'm guessing that we may need one better than that if we want to win a SB.
 

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And at 7-3 he was a top 5 QB. As regards stats. Then the O line went into the toilet.
We were there and we let it get away due to some bad picks on the O line. Or bad luck. Or both. Bledsoe is good enough if we have a good line- not a great line, just a good one. If this O line had been able to run block, so that we could have controled the game in the 4th Qtr, then Bledsoe would not have been in the position of having to pass. That was a large part of the reason that most of our games went down to the final minute. We could not grind out the last few minutes of any game this season.
 

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I keep waiting for that picture of QC and that bus to show back up. One of the funniest things I ever saw.
 
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