Byron Jones in Cowboys' top 16

[gimmesix]

According to Jerry Jones. I don't know if he was exaggerating.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Jerry said he was in the top 16, but the next day Stephen said that he wasn't a "true-blue" first rounder. So either he was at the low end of the first round grades or at the top end of the second round grades.

 

[funkytown]

I wonder Gregory would have been on their board if not for the off field problems. Pure talent standpoint you would have to think he was top 10.

 

[lostar2009]

Jerry said he was in the top 16, but the next day Stephen said that he wasn't a "true-blue" first rounder. So either he was at the low end of the first round grades or at the top end of the second round grades.

True blue , blue chipper ?

 

[ThreeandOut]

True blue , blue chipper ?

I'm not sure what that means either. It's probably Stephens way of throwing some uncertainty around their draft grade after Jerry gave it away.

 

[Zekeats]

Jerry said he was in the top 16, but the next day Stephen said that he wasn't a "true-blue" first rounder. So either he was at the low end of the first round grades or at the top end of the second round grades.

So he was number 16

 

[gimmesix]

Jerry said he was in the top 16, but the next day Stephen said that he wasn't a "true-blue" first rounder. So either he was at the low end of the first round grades or at the top end of the second round grades.

Yes, it would appear that we had fewer than 16 rated as first-rounders. Gregory was one of them, though. I read somewhere today that he was either No. 5 or in the top five. So by our scouts' estimation, we at least got two players they had rated among the top 20.

 

[gimmesix]

So he was number 16

Well, he might not have been able to remember whether it was 15 or 16.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Yes, it would appear that we had fewer than 16 rated as first-rounders. Gregory was one of them, though. I read somewhere today that he was either No. 5 or in the top five. So by our scouts' estimation, we at least got two players they had rated among the top 20.

Do you remember where you read that?

 

[Future]

Do you remember where you read that?

I think Jerry said it in his PC after day 1 or day 2...something like that.

Putting Jerry and Stephen's comments together, it makes sense that they had him ranked #16 but as a 2nd rounder. That would be in line with what a lot of people said about this draft that there isn't a ton of 1st round talent.

 

[ThreeandOut]

I think Jerry said it in his PC after day 1 or day 2...something like that.

Putting Jerry and Stephen's comments together, it makes sense that they had him ranked #16 but as a 2nd rounder. That would be in line with what a lot of people said about this draft that there isn't a ton of 1st round talent.

I think that is true about Jones. But I was curious about the part that Gregory was in their top 5. I haven't seen or heard about that yet.

 

[egn22]

So just swap him with Gregory who has "true blue" talent.
Gregory at 27
Jones at 60

AWESOME Value

 

[gimmesix]

Do you remember where you read that?

Mickey Spagnola column:

Gregory, a sure top-10 pick based on his talent, the guy considered by the Cowboys the best edge rusher in this draft and top 5 on their board overall, plummeted out of the first round.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Mickey Spagnola column:

Thanks!

 

[DFWJC]

I heard more than once that they had a few less 1st round grades this year--maybe 15-17 vs 22-24.
Also heard that Jones was right at the bottom of that final grouping--which means they'd have traded down if he was gone.

 

[gimmesix]

So just swap him with Gregory who has "true blue" talent.
Gregory at 27
Jones at 60

AWESOME Value

And it works out even better because Dallas gets to pay Gregory like a second-rounder and Jones, the high-character player, gets the first-round deal.

 

[speedkilz88]

Dane Brugler has said that there aren't 26 players better than Byron Jones.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I heard more than once that they had a few less 1st round grades this year--maybe 15-17 vs 22-24.
Also heard that Jones was right at the bottom of that final grouping--which means they'd have traded down if he was gone.

I heard the same thing. The Cowboys were sweating every pick after Putzburgh took Dupree.

 

[speedkilz88]

They had 18 first round grades in the 2013 leaked board. So I think that is pretty normal.

 

[AzorAhai]

I heard the same thing. The Cowboys were sweating every pick after Putzburgh took Dupree.

They even told Jones that on the phone call. Said theu were on pins and needles for about 5 picks hoping he fell to them. Thats why I think that Shaq wouldn't have made it past 27 stuff is nonsense. Maybe if Baltimore took Jones, but between Jones and Shaq I believe it was Jones all the way.